PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Docks or City and Farringdon given service number 5 effective from 16-Oct-2016. To amend Timetable.

(05 Sep 2016, 9:22 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote I think it's about the drivers having the option to take the other route, to avoid traffic etc.

What has always been a little hard to believe is that a 46 seat 12.6m E300 would be unacceptable despite the 05-plates only having two more seats.  And if capacity is really the reason for lack of investment, why is/was a 43 seat Kinetic being considered?

Isnt the Kinetic only being put on there as a trial though, as its a relatively easy route to see how the bus copes before deciding whether to refurbish the others and put them into service?

I think be OK at Stockton route like 14'34'39 and 13.

(06 Sep 2016, 3:13 pm)Jimmi wrote PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Docks or City and Farringdon given service number 5 effective from 16-Oct-2016. To amend Timetable.

Wonder what the timetable is, hopefully just timings and nothing cut.

(05 Sep 2016, 9:22 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote I think it's about the drivers having the option to take the other route, to avoid traffic etc.

What has always been a little hard to believe is that a 46 seat 12.6m E300 would be unacceptable despite the 05-plates only having two more seats.  And if capacity is really the reason for lack of investment, why is/was a 43 seat Kinetic being considered?

Don't forget that the E300s also have more standing capacity owing to their extra length. It's not just about the seat numbers...

(06 Sep 2016, 5:43 pm)Michael wrote Wonder what the timetable is, hopefully just timings and nothing cut.

Hopefully a extra morning journey a 1 hour gap from 7:30 to 8:40 I think

(06 Sep 2016, 5:53 pm)markydh wrote Don't forget that the E300s also have more standing capacity owing to their extra length. It's not just about the seat numbers...

I believe the old Enviro300s are 12.5m, so similar (slightly shorter) than the longest Enviro300 currently available

PB0002404/308 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ
Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between City Centre and Seaburn given service number 101 effective from 24-Sep-2016. To amend Timetable.

Info here:

Going to the Sunderland Illuminations? So are we !
14 Sep 2016
Sunderland Live have announced the Sunderland Illuminations will light up Roker and Seaburn from late September until early November.


https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:17:55:179


Last year it used gas buses so would imagine its the same this year.

(06 Sep 2016, 3:13 pm)Jimmi wrote PB0002404/121 - BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD T/A STAGECOACH NORTHEAST, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, NORTH BRIDGE STREET, SUNDERLAND, SR5 1AQ

Variation Accepted by SN: Operating between Docks or City and Farringdon given service number 5 effective from 16-Oct-2016. To amend Timetable.

Changes to the 5 can be seen here:


Minor changes to Service 5 from Monday 17 October 2016


Due to revisions to Nexus contracts, the Monday to Saturday trips at 1748 and 1818 from Borough Road (1757 and 1827 from the Docks) will be withdrawn.

All other Service 5 journeys continue unchanged.

To view the new timetable, https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.ama...016Oct.pdf

Changes to Services 38 and 39 from Sunday 30 October 2016

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:52:45:042

(07 Oct 2016, 6:11 pm)Michael wrote Changes to Services 38 and 39 from Sunday 30 October 2016

https://www.stagecoachbus.com/service-up...:52:45:042

So the 38 is going to do two loops of the Glebe estate. Love to know the logic behind that.

Temporary Road Closure of North Bridge Street Bus Lane on Sunday 16th October and Sunday 23rd October 2016


Sunderland City Council need to close the bus lane on North Bridge Street to perform essential utility works.

The works will take place from 0800 – 1800.

The closure will affect North Bridge Street in a southbound direction (bus lane) and services heading northbound will be reduced to a single lane.

All southbound services heading towards the Wearmouth Bridge will divert as follows

Services 3, 4, 13, 16 and E2 – at the Wheatsheaf junction, they will divert along Roker Avenue, Church Street North and Dame Dorothy Street.

Services 23, E1 and E6 – will also divert Roker Avenue, Church Street North and Dame Dorothy Street, omitting Dundas Street.

Although services will be diverted from usual routes, they will observe all stops along the length of the diversion – Roker Avenue (Salvation Army), Church Street North and Dame Dorothy Street.

Clearly, whilst we will be endeavouring to operate all services through this area in accordance with their published timetables, there is nonetheless the potential that some trips may be subject to delays.

Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience these works may cause and we remain grateful for customers’ patience and understanding.

(12 Oct 2016, 9:26 am)Michael wrote Stagecoach would like to apologise for any inconvenience these works may cause and we remain grateful for customers’ patience and understanding.

It always amazes me that bus companies feel the need to apologise for events which are outside their control.

(12 Oct 2016, 2:29 pm)G-CPTN wrote It always amazes me that bus companies feel the need to apologise for events which are outside their control.

Only polite. Some passengers would blame the bus company.

**UPDATE** - Please note that the traffic management on Holmeside will be removed after working hours tomorrow (6pm onwards on Friday 4 November 2016) and two-way traffic flow will resume until early next year (dates to be advised)**

All buses will revert to normal routes Eastbound via Vine Place, Holmeside and John Street.

All Westbound services will continue to operate via Holmeside and Vine Place as normal.


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I know work before was for the new college but now its open etc, I've seen nothing


What are they actually doing?, i was in the town today and seen no workmen on the road...

I think it's because of the big work lorrys parking up at the side of the road, going in and out from the access road to the college from holmside, probably because of health and safety as if u have lorrys parked on one side then buses would be delayed trying to get passed on the other side of the road and cause traffic jam, noticed the lorrys parked up Tuesday gone when I was in the town


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The following website has some brief descriptions of the changes in Sunderland for January 2017.

http://stagecoach.mybesthost.com/

(07 Nov 2016, 5:43 pm)cbma06 wrote The following website has some brief descriptions of the changes in Sunderland for January 2017.

http://stagecoach.mybesthost.com/

Looks like the 18/19 are going hourly..  hope it stays at half hourly on a morning.

Does anyone know when it will be two way traffic past Elizabeth's the cafe and tipsy cow in Sunderland?

(07 Nov 2016, 5:43 pm)cbma06 wrote The following website has some brief descriptions of the changes in Sunderland for January 2017.

http://stagecoach.mybesthost.com/

X24 is the most interesting development.

(08 Nov 2016, 12:06 am)Deleted wrote X24 is the most interesting development.

Used to be an X24 express from Sunderland to Newcastle back in the 1990s but I'd be suprised if that was being resurrected. Any hint of frequency at all?

(08 Nov 2016, 9:20 am)ifm001 wrote Used to be an X24 express from Sunderland to Newcastle back in the 1990s but I'd be suprised if that was being resurrected. Any hint of frequency at all?

Originally it was VFM buses X23 via Felgate then turned into X23 and X24 with the X24 via Boldon


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(08 Nov 2016, 9:20 am)ifm001 wrote Used to be an X24 express from Sunderland to Newcastle back in the 1990s but I'd be suprised if that was being resurrected. Any hint of frequency at all?

At a massive guess, i would say hourly to start off with.

(08 Nov 2016, 10:15 am)Michael wrote At a massive guess, i would say hourly to start off with.

Are you still thinking it will commence in the city centre or is the number (X24) a hint of location ie Thorney Close, which would go with the routine of serving non metro locations.

(08 Nov 2016, 10:46 am)ifm001 wrote Are you still thinking it will commence in the city centre or is the number (X24) a hint of location ie Thorney Close, which would go with the routine of serving non metro locations.

Not sure now, in all fairness, Stagecoach haven't had a service like this for years, so it could start anywhere, still think they would want it to start in a area which will allow them to get a decent amount of passengers though....

Route example could be: 

Thorney Close Shops - Grindon - Hastings - A19 - Newcastle


To me, the only competition would be around Grindon/Hastings Hill as they have the 2/2A to the Galleries then the X1 but i think if people notice that the X24 (we shall call it that until confirmed) will be a lot quicker.

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Where do u think it will start?

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Don't look at those changes yet, have a feeling Stagecoach will launch a surprise on us by end of week

(08 Nov 2016, 9:44 am)cbma06 wrote Originally it was VFM buses X23 via Felgate then turned into X23 and X24 with the X24 via Boldon


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X24 fits, via Boldon and Felling bypass.

(08 Nov 2016, 11:10 am)RBZ 5459 wrote X24 fits, via Boldon and Felling bypass.

I thought it was said before that it wouldn't go Via Boldon.

(08 Nov 2016, 11:15 am)Michael wrote I thought it was said before that it wouldn't go Via Boldon.

Has it been mentioned? You'd have to point me at that one.

As an 'X24', going via The Boldons/A184 would mean that the service would shadow west parts of the X34 route, meaning perhaps more chance of it surviving - plus links to Shields+Market of course.
More testing the water by connecting the network rather than hugely competing in my view, especially if its starting off at a low PVR.

(08 Nov 2016, 10:55 am)Michael wrote Not sure now, in all fairness, Stagecoach haven't had a service like this for years, so it could start anywhere, still think they would want it to start in a area which will allow them to get a decent amount of passengers though....

Route example could be: 

Thorney Close Shops - Grindon - Hastings - A19 - Newcastle


To me, the only competition would be around Grindon/Hastings Hill as they have the 2/2A to the Galleries then the X1 but i think if people notice that the X24 (we shall call it that until confirmed) will be a lot quicker.

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Don't look at those changes yet, have a feeling Stagecoach will launch a surprise on us by end of week

I'm not too familiar with those parts of Sunderrand but I highly doubt it will go via Boldon as suggested due to the X34 being a 20 minute frequency  

Im thinking 

Thorney Close - Grindon - Chester Road - Hastings Hill then A19/A194 to Gateshead and Newcastle.

Or

Grange town - Leechmere -Chester Road then as above. 

Like I say not sure on that area may have some estates wrong but along those routes if you know where I'm thinking.

I suggest it should start at grangetown old terminus, ryhope, tunstall, doxford park, Farringdon, gilley law, thorney close, grindon, Hastings hill, A19, Newcastle.


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