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RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(18 Feb 2017, 8:40 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote The invitation to tender for Nexus miscellaneous and school service contracts has gone out for the period commencing 3/09/2017.
The contracts are for a one year period requiring low floor easy access vehicles to PSVAR standard with Euro 4 compliance.
Capacity based on a minimum of 44, 60 & 84 depending on route.
No variations will be accepted.

That's a lot services, and very early.

I have no idea which company runs each school service, do hope we see the independent companies gain most of it. 

Any idea when we will find out?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(18 Feb 2017, 3:19 pm)Michael wrote That's a lot services, and very early.

I have no idea which company runs each school service, do hope we see the independent companies gain most of it. 

Any idea when we will find out?

Tenders have to be with Nexus by 22/03/2017 so we should see some feedback around Easter time.

With the requirement for a minimum of Euro 4 this might put some independent operators at a disadvantage unless they invest in newer vehicles or look at the feasibility of fitting emission reduction devices.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(18 Feb 2017, 3:19 pm)Michael wrote That's a lot services, and very early.

I have no idea which company runs each school service, do hope we see the independent companies gain most of it. 

Any idea when we will find out?

Think it might be workers services too - are workers services tied in with schools?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(18 Feb 2017, 4:28 pm)Tom wrote Think it might be workers services too - are workers services tied in with schools?

The Misc workings do include some workers services. The invitation to tender for the Misc workings states that some workers services are included but the requirement is predominantly for Schools Services.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(18 Feb 2017, 4:43 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote The Misc workings do include some workers services. The invitation to tender for the Misc workings states that some workers services are included but the requirement is predominantly for Schools Services.

Thanks for that, I do wonder how much money independents make of scholars because they only run the buses for an hour or two a day in most cases so I'm just thinking is it really worth it. E.g companies like Stanley Travel who would obviously have to pay for the place they keep their buses in Byker.

I'm not sure if you do, but do you have a list of works services this applies too? Smile
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(18 Feb 2017, 4:45 pm)Tom wrote Thanks for that, I do wonder how much money independents make of scholars because they only run the buses for an hour or two a day in most cases so I'm just thinking is it really worth it. E.g companies like Stanley Travel who would obviously have to pay for the place they keep their buses in Byker.

I'm not sure if you do, but do you have a list of works services this applies too? Smile

That's why they tend to run older vehicles, to help make this sort of work pay.
Let's not forget Nightingales, GCT and Kingsleys also run some of the school work in Nexus land
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(19 Feb 2017, 10:01 am)tyresmoke wrote That's why they tend to run older vehicles, to help make this sort of work pay.
Let's not forget Nightingales, GCT and Kingsleys also run some of the school work in Nexus land
Yeah and Weardale I think
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RE: Tender Discussion Thread
Invitations to tender for services sent out this afternoon:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 88 (Evenings)
4x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(17 Mar 2017, 4:01 pm)Dan wrote Invitations to tender for services sent out this afternoon:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 88 (Evenings)
4x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Can't think who will get most of these...

Cheers for sharing.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(20 Jan 2017, 12:30 pm)Dan wrote As a handful of these have changed, it's worth sharing a bit more information about them.


Service 8

The contract for service 8 is for the Monday - Saturday evening service between The Docks, City Centre, High Barnes and South Hylton (from 18:54 onwards) as well as the Sunday daytime and evening operation of the service between the same locations.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 39

The contract for service 39 is for the evening operation of the service (operated commercially by Go North East during the day).

Contractual requirements: 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 56A

The contract for service 56A is an early morning Saturday service designed to maintain early morning links between Sunderland and Washington. It is currently split up as the 05:03am #56 Sunderland to Concord, which interworks with the 05:39 #86 Concord to Washington Galleries. There are no changes to the timetable - it is just re-numbered 56A throughout.

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 135/136 (Early Morning Journeys)

The contract for the early morning journeys on services 135/136 is in response to Go North East's withdrawal of the daytime 99 service (so secured 99A journeys were re-numbered 135 or 136).

Contractual requirements: Mon-Fri 3x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23. Sat 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Services 237/238


There are no changes to the route for the daytime 238 service - commercially operated by Go North East from Sunderland to Houghton-le-Spring (via Seaham). The secured portion is what was previously operated by Compass Community Transport (as service 79) between Houghton-le-Spring and Barnwell during the day (as service 238) and from Queen Elizabeth Drive to Barnwell during the night (as service 237).

Contractual requirements: 2x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 16.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 516

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 592

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018


Service 593

No changes to route. Revised specification as below:

Contractual requirements: 1x Euro 4 vehicle, minimum capacity of 23.
Contract period: 21/05/2017 - 19/05/2018

Any updates on these?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Site Administrator
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(19 Mar 2017, 3:37 pm)Michael wrote Any updates on these?

I believe it was announced today that Go North East has been awarded with the contract for all of those tenders, apart from the 592. The 592 has been retained by Gateshead Central Taxis.

Of course, Stagecoach may wish to take on the contract for service 8 commercially (or at least part-commercial) in order to prevent Go North East from infiltrating into the South Hylton area.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(28 Mar 2017, 6:43 pm)Dan wrote I believe it was announced today that Go North East has been awarded with the contract for all of those tenders, apart from the 592. The 592 has been retained by Gateshead Central Taxis.

Of course, Stagecoach may wish to take on the contract for service 8 commercially (or at least part-commercial) in order to prevent Go North East from infiltrating into the South Hylton area.

Oh cool, be weird seeing "Go North East" run around Barnes etc... i wonder if Stagecoach will decide to run it commercially or part-commercial, be interesting to see what happens. 


The 8, will probables be a Solo, if Stagecoach decide not to run it commercially or part-commercial.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Jamie M
Unregistered
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(28 Mar 2017, 6:50 pm)Michael wrote Oh cool, be weird seeing "Go North East" run around Barnes etc... i wonder if Stagecoach will decide to run it commercially or part-commercial, be interesting to see what happens. 


The 8, will probables be a Solo, if Stagecoach decide not to run it commercially or part-commercial.
I think this will also be highly confusing for the current service 8 operated by go north east in the same local area.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(28 Mar 2017, 10:43 pm)Jamie M wrote I think this will also be highly confusing for the current service 8 operated by go north east in the same local area.

The only time the Go North East 8 will cross routes with the contract 8 is on Green Terrence and on Chester road when it's the 8A, which is only a few times, however one of the problems could be that people can't use their Stagecoach Megarider's on the 8 when Go North East start to run it... hopefully they can. 

Stagecoach might even decide to run it part commercial or fully commercial yet.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(29 Mar 2017, 5:04 am)Michael wrote however one of the problems could that people can't use their Stagecoach Megarider's on the 8 when Go North East start to run it... hopefully they can.

Isn't that a problem with every Nexus secured service when it changes operators? Unlikely that they will do one thing and do another for everything else.
Tender Discussion Thread
Stagecoach operated secured evening service 39 while GNE operated the commercial daytime service. If GNE does the evening 8 secured then if passengers are not happy then there can vent there anger to stagecoach as there want to put profit before passengers.


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RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(29 Mar 2017, 5:04 am)Michael wrote The only time the Go North East 8 will cross routes with the contract 8 is on Green Terrence and on Chester road when it's the 8A, which is only a few times, however one of the problems could be that people can't use their Stagecoach Megarider's on the 8 when Go North East start to run it... hopefully they can. 

Stagecoach might even decide to run it part commercial or fully commercial yet.

https://www.vehicle-operator-licensing.s...ls/501489/

Guessing they are running it commercial then?
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(03 Apr 2017, 5:26 pm)Michael wrote Looks like it, which is good Big Grin

What makes you think that?

The revised registration is just "City Centre to South Hylton" so the Docks section definitely not staying with Stagecoach.

(29 Mar 2017, 7:46 am)Ecbma06 wrote Stagecoach operated secured evening service 39 while GNE operated the commercial daytime service. If GNE does the evening 8 secured then if passengers are not happy then there can vent there anger to stagecoach as there want to put profit before passengers.


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RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(03 Apr 2017, 8:41 pm)busmanT wrote What makes you think that?

The revised registration is just "City Centre to South Hylton" so the Docks section definitely not staying with Stagecoach.


For just over £1 extra weekly ticket passengers can buy a SmartZone ticket, travel on Arriva, Stagecoach and Go North East in Sunderland.

Didn't even notice that, i doubt many people use the Sunderland to docks section on a evening and Sundays anyway, probables all OAP's.


Wonder if "Go North East" will just run the service between Sunderland and the docks.


I buy the smartzone pass anyway, much better than the megarider.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
Durham County Council Bus Service Tenders are up for renewal to start the end Of October.
The County is hoping for a like for like so no change with the tenders.
If cut have to happen then they would take affect from April 2018.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(17 Mar 2017, 4:01 pm)Dan wrote Invitations to tender for services sent out this afternoon:

Service 37 (Weekday Peak Times)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 37/73 (Mon-Sat daytime)
3x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 88 (Evenings)
4x low-floor Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 36.
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 92, 83A, 927, 937, 68 and 93A (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 36
Maximum vehicle length 8.9m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services 515/558 (Daily)
2x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 49
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Service 643 (Mon-Sat daytime)
1x low-floor Euro 4 bus with a minimum capacity of 16
Maximum vehicle length 8.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

Services R3/R4/R6 (Daily)
3x Euro 4 buses with a minimum capacity of 23
Maximum vehicle length 9.0m
Contract period: 23/07/2017 - 21/07/2018

When will these be announced?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(20 Apr 2017, 3:22 pm)Michael wrote When will these be announced?

Not sure but we all know who will get them... (or at least a majority of them)
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(20 Apr 2017, 3:22 pm)Michael wrote When will these be announced?

The closure date for expression of interest is midday tomorrow (21st April 2017).

IV.2) Administrative information

IV.2.2) Time limit for receipt of tenders or requests to participate
Date: 21/04/2017
Local time: 12:00
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(20 Apr 2017, 4:02 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote The closure date for expression of interest is midday tomorrow (21st April 2017).

IV.2) Administrative information

IV.2.2) Time limit for receipt of tenders or requests to participate
Date: 21/04/2017
Local time: 12:00

Cheers Guy
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Jamie M
Unregistered
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(21 Apr 2017, 2:02 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote Nexus are requesting tender responses for the South Tyneside 12 bus service quite short notice too with a closing date of 28/4/17.
I think it would be a good interoworking with the 516 as it's practically a loop.

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RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(21 Apr 2017, 2:26 pm)Jamie M wrote I think it would be a good interoworking with the 516 as it's practically a loop.

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Looks like it is a replacement for the evening services that Stagecoach plan to withdraw but it would be good to see the bus allocated to the 516 remain in South Shields at the end of 516 duties  and pick up on the 12.
RE: Tender Discussion Thread
(20 Apr 2017, 4:02 pm)GuyParkRoyal wrote The closure date for expression of interest is midday tomorrow (21st April 2017).

IV.2) Administrative information

IV.2.2) Time limit for receipt of tenders or requests to participate
Date: 21/04/2017
Local time: 12:00

Do you have any idea who won these contracts yet or not?