Politics (and other political stuff)
Politics (and other political stuff)
(19 Apr 2017, 9:22 pm)Andreos1 You need a good campaign manager, who can communicate and pass on your message clearly.Or what about this for a smear
Maybe even smearing the opposition.
(19 Apr 2017, 9:22 pm)Andreos1 You need a good campaign manager, who can communicate and pass on your message clearly.Or what about this for a smear
Maybe even smearing the opposition.
(19 Apr 2017, 6:20 pm)Adrian I would never discourage anyone from standing, but Easington would be a task beyond most. It has been a Labour stronghold for years, and the current majority is almost 15,000 votes...Yeah, Easington is probably out the question, one of the safest seats in the country, am I correct...
(20 Apr 2017, 5:43 am)LeeCalder I sincerely hope someone manages to knock Kevan Jones off his rather large high-horse in North Durham, he's as much use as a handbrake on a canoe. He's held the seat since 2001, and always wins by a large majority.Or as effective as a fart in a force 10 gale as I like to say
(19 Apr 2017, 6:20 pm)Adrian I would never discourage anyone from standing, but Easington would be a task beyond most. It has been a Labour stronghold for years, and the current majority is almost 15,000 votes...Yeah, Easington is probably out the question, one of the safest seats in the country, am I correct...
(20 Apr 2017, 5:43 am)LeeCalder I sincerely hope someone manages to knock Kevan Jones off his rather large high-horse in North Durham, he's as much use as a handbrake on a canoe. He's held the seat since 2001, and always wins by a large majority.Or as effective as a fart in a force 10 gale as I like to say
(27 Apr 2017, 7:32 pm)Andreos1 https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/04/2...ear-plugs/
(27 Apr 2017, 7:32 pm)Andreos1 https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/04/2...ear-plugs/
https://twitter.com/EastDurhamTrust/stat...0675581954
I caught this last night on Radio Newcastle. A pretty sad state of affairs.
Local bus transport gets a kicking too.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39949130
A BBC perspective of Thatcher, courtesy of an interview in Consett Bus Station and other various places.
The ignorance is astonishing.
I'm surprised how quiet this thread is in the run up the General Election.
Particularly after the discussion we had around Brexit and the US elections.
Anyway, trying to stimulate discussion...
Any thoughts on www.schoolcuts.org.uk?
(30 May 2017, 9:02 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised how quiet this thread is in the run up the General Election.
Particularly after the discussion we had around Brexit and the US elections.
Anyway, trying to stimulate discussion...
Any thoughts on www.schoolcuts.org.uk?
(30 May 2017, 9:02 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised how quiet this thread is in the run up the General Election.
Particularly after the discussion we had around Brexit and the US elections.
Anyway, trying to stimulate discussion...
Any thoughts on www.schoolcuts.org.uk?
(31 May 2017, 12:05 pm)Chris That school cuts website is on my ever increasing list of things to look at. Never had the chance to yet.
Like buses, my interest in politics far exceeds my knowledge. I particularly look forward to Adrian's contributions in this thread.
What's fascinated me is the way both campaigns appear to have been run. Out of the 2 main parties, one party has pushed their manifesto as an offer of hope and promise; whilst the other concentrates on soundbites and smears. 'Vote for us and we'll cost it later' is the impression I get.
What's also been apparent to me is the latent bias of the mainstream media. Including, shamefully, the BBC; whose reporting I used to hold in the highest regard. A look at who owns our mainstream media, and the pledges on leveson 2 in one party's manifesto, reveals why. As an example, today's newspaper headlines major in on Jeremy Corbyn needing to look up the figure that he didn't know off the top of his head. Imagine that - a politician attempting to give an honest answer instead of guessing, and getting lampooned for it! Diane Abbott has had similar treatment. But when Theresa May forgets where she is, or Phillip Hammond knocks £20b off the cost of HS2, or Michael Fallon's lies reduce Robert Peston to banging his head on his desk - it's foot notes at best.
(31 May 2017, 12:05 pm)Chris That school cuts website is on my ever increasing list of things to look at. Never had the chance to yet.
Like buses, my interest in politics far exceeds my knowledge. I particularly look forward to Adrian's contributions in this thread.
What's fascinated me is the way both campaigns appear to have been run. Out of the 2 main parties, one party has pushed their manifesto as an offer of hope and promise; whilst the other concentrates on soundbites and smears. 'Vote for us and we'll cost it later' is the impression I get.
What's also been apparent to me is the latent bias of the mainstream media. Including, shamefully, the BBC; whose reporting I used to hold in the highest regard. A look at who owns our mainstream media, and the pledges on leveson 2 in one party's manifesto, reveals why. As an example, today's newspaper headlines major in on Jeremy Corbyn needing to look up the figure that he didn't know off the top of his head. Imagine that - a politician attempting to give an honest answer instead of guessing, and getting lampooned for it! Diane Abbott has had similar treatment. But when Theresa May forgets where she is, or Phillip Hammond knocks £20b off the cost of HS2, or Michael Fallon's lies reduce Robert Peston to banging his head on his desk - it's foot notes at best.
(30 May 2017, 9:02 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised how quiet this thread is in the run up the General Election.
Particularly after the discussion we had around Brexit and the US elections.
Anyway, trying to stimulate discussion...
Any thoughts on www.schoolcuts.org.uk?
(31 May 2017, 12:05 pm)Chris That school cuts website is on my ever increasing list of things to look at. Never had the chance to yet.
Like buses, my interest in politics far exceeds my knowledge. I particularly look forward to Adrian's contributions in this thread.
What's fascinated me is the way both campaigns appear to have been run. Out of the 2 main parties, one party has pushed their manifesto as an offer of hope and promise; whilst the other concentrates on soundbites and smears. 'Vote for us and we'll cost it later' is the impression I get.
What's also been apparent to me is the latent bias of the mainstream media. Including, shamefully, the BBC; whose reporting I used to hold in the highest regard. A look at who owns our mainstream media, and the pledges on leveson 2 in one party's manifesto, reveals why. As an example, today's newspaper headlines major in on Jeremy Corbyn needing to look up the figure that he didn't know off the top of his head. Imagine that - a politician attempting to give an honest answer instead of guessing, and getting lampooned for it! Diane Abbott has had similar treatment. But when Theresa May forgets where she is, or Phillip Hammond knocks £20b off the cost of HS2, or Michael Fallon's lies reduce Robert Peston to banging his head on his desk - it's foot notes at best.
(31 May 2017, 12:57 pm)Andreos1 It's interesting you mention that. Haven't long had a discussion with the other half about the same thing.
Coincidentaly, this has just appeared on my twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/LabourLeft/status/86...3117662212
Corbyn has announced he is going to go to Cambridge tonight. Will it be Rudd or May for the other side?
(30 May 2017, 9:02 pm)Andreos1 I'm surprised how quiet this thread is in the run up the General Election.
Particularly after the discussion we had around Brexit and the US elections.
Anyway, trying to stimulate discussion...
Any thoughts on www.schoolcuts.org.uk?
(31 May 2017, 12:05 pm)Chris That school cuts website is on my ever increasing list of things to look at. Never had the chance to yet.
Like buses, my interest in politics far exceeds my knowledge. I particularly look forward to Adrian's contributions in this thread.
What's fascinated me is the way both campaigns appear to have been run. Out of the 2 main parties, one party has pushed their manifesto as an offer of hope and promise; whilst the other concentrates on soundbites and smears. 'Vote for us and we'll cost it later' is the impression I get.
What's also been apparent to me is the latent bias of the mainstream media. Including, shamefully, the BBC; whose reporting I used to hold in the highest regard. A look at who owns our mainstream media, and the pledges on leveson 2 in one party's manifesto, reveals why. As an example, today's newspaper headlines major in on Jeremy Corbyn needing to look up the figure that he didn't know off the top of his head. Imagine that - a politician attempting to give an honest answer instead of guessing, and getting lampooned for it! Diane Abbott has had similar treatment. But when Theresa May forgets where she is, or Phillip Hammond knocks £20b off the cost of HS2, or Michael Fallon's lies reduce Robert Peston to banging his head on his desk - it's foot notes at best.
(31 May 2017, 12:57 pm)Andreos1 It's interesting you mention that. Haven't long had a discussion with the other half about the same thing.
Coincidentaly, this has just appeared on my twitter feed.
https://twitter.com/LabourLeft/status/86...3117662212
Corbyn has announced he is going to go to Cambridge tonight. Will it be Rudd or May for the other side?
I find the Tory policy on schools quite unsettling.
After business and charity have been given property and the fields for nothing (previously owned by the LA), often the schools are then selling off land to housing companies.
Making teachers redundant isn't something from a dystopian future either.
My eldest's school (an academy) has had teachers on fixed term contracts and at the end of the contract, they're being replaced by less experienced, cheaper staff. On similar fixed term contracts.
A tory government is only going to make this situation even worse.
Two interesting articles regarding the behaviour of Tories. One quite local.
http://m.plymouthherald.co.uk/three-minu...l#comments
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017...y-shocking
There is also a story kicking around regarding Amber Rudd. Apparently her father died on Monday. Why didn't May stand in or at least find an alternative?
I find the whole thing astonishing.
(31 May 2017, 8:54 pm)Adrian I thought Corbyn was good tonight, and I think it was a good move for him to go to it. The whole panel have made it look ridiculous that Theresa May did not attend, and quite rightly so. Its just a shame that the BBC person was such a poor chair of the debate!
(31 May 2017, 8:54 pm)Adrian I thought Corbyn was good tonight, and I think it was a good move for him to go to it. The whole panel have made it look ridiculous that Theresa May did not attend, and quite rightly so. Its just a shame that the BBC person was such a poor chair of the debate!
I have a dilemma...
My party aren't represented in Bishop Auckland, I aint interestsd in the candidates on the ballot...
Up to now it seems we have Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, UKIP and the BNP...
I dont really want to vote UKIP or the BNP and I aint interested in voting tactically, voting for one to keep another out, what is the best way forward, do I
1...Spoil my ballot paper
2...Begrudginly Vote for the Lib Dems...There a joke IMO, but I could never justify voting for UKIP or the BNP
3...Boycott the election
No.3 is not really an option to me, I believe in my democratic right to vote and have done so at every election I have been eligible to vote in
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
(01 Jun 2017, 12:02 pm)MrFozz I have a dilemma...
My party aren't represented in Bishop Auckland, I aint interestsd in the candidates on the ballot...
Up to now it seems we have Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, UKIP and the BNP...
I dont really want to vote UKIP or the BNP and I aint interested in voting tactically, voting for one to keep another out, what is the best way forward, do I
1...Spoil my ballot paper
2...Begrudginly Vote for the Lib Dems...There a joke IMO, but I could never justify voting for UKIP or the BNP
3...Boycott the election
No.3 is not really an option to me, I believe in my democratic right to vote and have done so at every election I have been eligible to vote in
(01 Jun 2017, 12:02 pm)MrFozz I have a dilemma...
My party aren't represented in Bishop Auckland, I aint interestsd in the candidates on the ballot...
Up to now it seems we have Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, UKIP and the BNP...
I dont really want to vote UKIP or the BNP and I aint interested in voting tactically, voting for one to keep another out, what is the best way forward, do I
1...Spoil my ballot paper
2...Begrudginly Vote for the Lib Dems...There a joke IMO, but I could never justify voting for UKIP or the BNP
3...Boycott the election
No.3 is not really an option to me, I believe in my democratic right to vote and have done so at every election I have been eligible to vote in
Done nothing for me personally and feels like my opinion is ignored or took no notice of, I dont like Jeremy Corbyn, more of a personal opinion about him rather than the Labour Party in General.
Whereas, in the North East Party, opinion is valued, no party line to tow as such either
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
(01 Jun 2017, 11:37 am)Chris I thought Corbyn was good both last night and on the Paxman debate. I thought Caroline Lucas also did well. I'm assuming the 'last minute' change of heart wasn't that last minute, I think he played a blinder there. Plus, who'd have thought Tim Farron would be king of the quips?
In the wider media, Barry Gardiner (and I'd never heard of him before) has also been fantastic.
In terms of Amber Rudd and her father, I'm with Andreos on this one - I think it's shocking Theresa May didn't attend.
I think her not participating was her least worst option though. Her being there would just highlight her cold, robotic persona. And she just hasn't got the policies.
(01 Jun 2017, 12:02 pm)MrFozz I have a dilemma...
My party aren't represented in Bishop Auckland, I aint interestsd in the candidates on the ballot...
Up to now it seems we have Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, UKIP and the BNP...
I dont really want to vote UKIP or the BNP and I aint interested in voting tactically, voting for one to keep another out, what is the best way forward, do I
1...Spoil my ballot paper
2...Begrudginly Vote for the Lib Dems...There a joke IMO, but I could never justify voting for UKIP or the BNP
3...Boycott the election
No.3 is not really an option to me, I believe in my democratic right to vote and have done so at every election I have been eligible to vote in
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
(01 Jun 2017, 11:37 am)Chris I thought Corbyn was good both last night and on the Paxman debate. I thought Caroline Lucas also did well. I'm assuming the 'last minute' change of heart wasn't that last minute, I think he played a blinder there. Plus, who'd have thought Tim Farron would be king of the quips?
In the wider media, Barry Gardiner (and I'd never heard of him before) has also been fantastic.
In terms of Amber Rudd and her father, I'm with Andreos on this one - I think it's shocking Theresa May didn't attend.
I think her not participating was her least worst option though. Her being there would just highlight her cold, robotic persona. And she just hasn't got the policies.
(01 Jun 2017, 12:02 pm)MrFozz I have a dilemma...
My party aren't represented in Bishop Auckland, I aint interestsd in the candidates on the ballot...
Up to now it seems we have Labour, Tory, Lib Dem, UKIP and the BNP...
I dont really want to vote UKIP or the BNP and I aint interested in voting tactically, voting for one to keep another out, what is the best way forward, do I
1...Spoil my ballot paper
2...Begrudginly Vote for the Lib Dems...There a joke IMO, but I could never justify voting for UKIP or the BNP
3...Boycott the election
No.3 is not really an option to me, I believe in my democratic right to vote and have done so at every election I have been eligible to vote in
Sent from my SM-G920F using Tapatalk
(01 Jun 2017, 8:01 pm)Adrian Barry Gardiner is becoming a bit of a cult hero within Labour Party activism. His ability to not take any sh*t whatsoever is fantastic to watch.
Bishop Auckland have no UKIP candidate in the 2017 election, despite taking 17.8% of the vote two years ago. Labour's Helen Goodman is now defending a majority of 3,508, with the 7,015 UKIP votes now up for grabs, if the turnout were to remain the same.
I'm biased, so I'm always going to say to vote Labour, but if you can't pick someone that stands out then I think you need to vote tactically. Ask yourself if you'd rather give the Tories an extra seat, at the expense of Labour losing one.
(01 Jun 2017, 8:01 pm)Adrian Barry Gardiner is becoming a bit of a cult hero within Labour Party activism. His ability to not take any sh*t whatsoever is fantastic to watch.
Bishop Auckland have no UKIP candidate in the 2017 election, despite taking 17.8% of the vote two years ago. Labour's Helen Goodman is now defending a majority of 3,508, with the 7,015 UKIP votes now up for grabs, if the turnout were to remain the same.
I'm biased, so I'm always going to say to vote Labour, but if you can't pick someone that stands out then I think you need to vote tactically. Ask yourself if you'd rather give the Tories an extra seat, at the expense of Labour losing one.