(04 Aug 2017, 11:01 am)Michael Due to a short notice road closure by Sunderland City Council, there will be a diversion in place for Red Arrows X1 on 7 and 8 August.
Northbound buses will unable to run direct along the Washington Highway and will need to be diverted along Bonemill Lane, via Fatfield Bridge and Station Road to Shiney Row.
Due to the low bridge in the area, single deck buses will have to be used to keep delays down to a minimum and will not have the standard features of normal Red Arrows buses.
Wonder what will be allocated and where the red arrows will go for the time-being?
(04 Aug 2017, 11:01 am)Michael Due to a short notice road closure by Sunderland City Council, there will be a diversion in place for Red Arrows X1 on 7 and 8 August.
Northbound buses will unable to run direct along the Washington Highway and will need to be diverted along Bonemill Lane, via Fatfield Bridge and Station Road to Shiney Row.
Due to the low bridge in the area, single deck buses will have to be used to keep delays down to a minimum and will not have the standard features of normal Red Arrows buses.
Wonder what will be allocated and where the red arrows will go for the time-being?
(04 Aug 2017, 11:15 am)Andreos1 The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.
As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.
(04 Aug 2017, 11:15 am)Andreos1 The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.
As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.
(04 Aug 2017, 11:19 am)JP6004 You must of read my mind
The PVR will be lower during the wweek as only 13 vehicles required, as opposed to a Saturday when 14 plus vehicle for X88 is required
(04 Aug 2017, 11:19 am)JP6004 You must of read my mind
The PVR will be lower during the wweek as only 13 vehicles required, as opposed to a Saturday when 14 plus vehicle for X88 is required
(04 Aug 2017, 11:15 am)Andreos1 The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.
As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.
(04 Aug 2017, 11:15 am)Andreos1 The signs have been up for a while, advising of road closures.
Like other works, the term 'short notice' is up for debate.
As it is during the week and PVR will be high, I would imagine vehicle swaps would take place.
Deckers for the 5/50 and Omnicities for the X1 would fill some of the PVR. That jumps straight out.
Where the rest of the single deckers come from, not too sure.
Not sure Washington could fill the PVR of the X1 with their own suitably sized vehicles. Solo's wouldn't really suffice.
(04 Aug 2017, 12:03 pm)Dan Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.
Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.
As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.
(04 Aug 2017, 12:03 pm)Dan Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.
Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.
As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.
(04 Aug 2017, 12:03 pm)Dan Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.
Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.
As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.
(04 Aug 2017, 12:03 pm)Dan Yes - the signs have been up for a while for an overnight road closure, where buses would not be affected and hence Go North East would not need to advertise disruption to the X1.
Sunderland City Council changed their plans at short notice (as suggested by Go North East) and informed operators yesterday that the closure would instead be held during the day. So yes, short notice, and credit where credit is due, the company has had three days to make plans to accommodate this road closure and a diversion which would affect passengers the least.
As suggested, there will be a direct swap of allocations between services 5/50 and X1 on Monday and Tuesday, and the shortfall will be made up of red Scania L94s being exchanged with Red Arrows branded Volvo B9TLs at Chester-le-Street. The Volvo B9TLs will be allocated to services 13/X25 at Chester-le-Street.
(04 Aug 2017, 12:23 pm)cbma06 Can the X1 deckers not be used between galleries and Newcastle and have singles on galleries to the Lane ?
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(04 Aug 2017, 12:23 pm)cbma06 Can the X1 deckers not be used between galleries and Newcastle and have singles on galleries to the Lane ?
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From the Northumberland County Council site:
10, 10B, 10X
Reduction in Sunday evening services
10 Ex Hexham
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys are changed - 19:18 is 3mins earlier; 20:18 is 5mins earlier; 21:28 is 5mins later.
10 Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys are changed - 20:05 &
21:05 are 5mins later; 22:15 & 23:15 are 15mins later.
10B Ex Prudhoe
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys between 19:27-22:29 are withdrawn
10B Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys between 20:40-22:40 are withdrawn.
10X Ex Prudhoe
M-F; No changes
10X Ex Newcastle
M-F: No changes
309/310/X39
Variations in Tyne & Wear during Norham Rd, Bridge replacement. Only 309 operates in Northumberland.
309 Ex Newcastle & Ex Blyth
No timetable or route changes in Northumberland
(04 Aug 2017, 3:10 pm)Michael From the Northumberland County Council site:
10, 10B, 10X
Reduction in Sunday evening services
10 Ex Hexham
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys are changed - 19:18 is 3mins earlier; 20:18 is 5mins earlier; 21:28 is 5mins later.
10 Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys are changed - 20:05 &
21:05 are 5mins later; 22:15 & 23:15 are 15mins later.
10B Ex Prudhoe
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys between 19:27-22:29 are withdrawn
10B Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys between 20:40-22:40 are withdrawn.
10X Ex Prudhoe
M-F; No changes
10X Ex Newcastle
M-F: No changes
309/310/X39
Variations in Tyne & Wear during Norham Rd, Bridge replacement. Only 309 operates in Northumberland.
309 Ex Newcastle & Ex Blyth
No timetable or route changes in Northumberland
(04 Aug 2017, 3:10 pm)Michael From the Northumberland County Council site:
10, 10B, 10X
Reduction in Sunday evening services
10 Ex Hexham
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys are changed - 19:18 is 3mins earlier; 20:18 is 5mins earlier; 21:28 is 5mins later.
10 Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys are changed - 20:05 &
21:05 are 5mins later; 22:15 & 23:15 are 15mins later.
10B Ex Prudhoe
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 4 journeys between 19:27-22:29 are withdrawn
10B Ex Newcastle
M-F, Sat: No changes
Sun: Last 3 journeys between 20:40-22:40 are withdrawn.
10X Ex Prudhoe
M-F; No changes
10X Ex Newcastle
M-F: No changes
309/310/X39
Variations in Tyne & Wear during Norham Rd, Bridge replacement. Only 309 operates in Northumberland.
309 Ex Newcastle & Ex Blyth
No timetable or route changes in Northumberland
The X25 passengers won't know what to do with themselves...a bus that doent break down!
Fiver that a Red Arrow ends up on the 21 at some point
(04 Aug 2017, 6:42 pm)Ambassador The X25 passengers won't know what to do with themselves...a bus that doent break down!
Fiver that a Red Arrow ends up on the 21 at some point
(04 Aug 2017, 6:42 pm)Ambassador The X25 passengers won't know what to do with themselves...a bus that doent break down!
Fiver that a Red Arrow ends up on the 21 at some point
(04 Aug 2017, 6:58 pm)citaro5284 I think the odds are on rather than against
(04 Aug 2017, 6:58 pm)citaro5284 I think the odds are on rather than against
(04 Aug 2017, 6:42 pm)Ambassador The X25 passengers won't know what to do with themselves...a bus that doent break down!
Fiver that a Red Arrow ends up on the 21 at some point
(04 Aug 2017, 6:42 pm)Ambassador The X25 passengers won't know what to do with themselves...a bus that doent break down!
Fiver that a Red Arrow ends up on the 21 at some point
Closure of Lanchester Front Street from 10th to 13th August (with the article published on the 26th July - shows what can happen when local authorities actually contact businesses affected by their closures!):
http://newsroom.gonortheast.co.uk/news/c...ust-253905
Regarding the 30, I am just wondering if it would have been possible to terminate it at the temporary stops on the A691 that the 15/15A are going to use and then use the estate the T1 goes into after serving the main village to turn around rather than terminating where it is going to and use St Bede's School to turn around (its the only place I can think of)
(04 Aug 2017, 12:33 pm)Dan If Go North East had more than four days notice that the road closure had changed from overnight (as agreed with stakeholders) to daytime, then perhaps they could have 'split' the X1 for the duration.
As there has only been four days notice, there is not enough time for Go North East to make a change like this.
(04 Aug 2017, 12:33 pm)Dan If Go North East had more than four days notice that the road closure had changed from overnight (as agreed with stakeholders) to daytime, then perhaps they could have 'split' the X1 for the duration.
As there has only been four days notice, there is not enough time for Go North East to make a change like this.
(08 Aug 2017, 3:35 pm)Dan Oh dear... The council, within the last hour, have just informed Go North East that the closure is likely to continue into tomorrow, so the temporary allocations of single-decks on the X1 will continue for another day.
At least Go North East promptly put something up on Social Media to advise their customers, eh?
https://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/photo...10/?type=3&theater
(08 Aug 2017, 3:35 pm)Dan Oh dear... The council, within the last hour, have just informed Go North East that the closure is likely to continue into tomorrow, so the temporary allocations of single-decks on the X1 will continue for another day.
At least Go North East promptly put something up on Social Media to advise their customers, eh?
https://www.facebook.com/simplyGNE/photo...10/?type=3&theater
(16 Jul 2017, 12:22 am)James101 The X10 currently has very many passengers happy not serving Dalton Park. Increasing journey times will just push more passengers toward the train when Northern Connect starts.
I'd think to keep within the legislation every X10 will have to go through Dalton Park, including the early morning southbound journeys. Sounds pretty pointless, and potentially irritating, considering the shops and restaurants don't open until 10am.
I'd hazard a guess there will be more passenger inconvenienced by the route change than additional passengers attracted by it, despite the operational advantages GNE achieve.
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(16 Jul 2017, 12:22 am)James101 The X10 currently has very many passengers happy not serving Dalton Park. Increasing journey times will just push more passengers toward the train when Northern Connect starts.
I'd think to keep within the legislation every X10 will have to go through Dalton Park, including the early morning southbound journeys. Sounds pretty pointless, and potentially irritating, considering the shops and restaurants don't open until 10am.
I'd hazard a guess there will be more passenger inconvenienced by the route change than additional passengers attracted by it, despite the operational advantages GNE achieve.
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(12 Aug 2017, 6:24 am)Ambivalence Very first post here. Googling x10 and dalton park brought me here. I live in Murton, and work in Middlesbrough. Is this alteration confirmed? It will make my life much much easier. I've personally been canvassing everyone who will listen to try and make this change! Currently use x10 and have to rely on a lift to get me to the slip rd in Plee
oh, and pointless and irritating will get at least 5 people I know to work and back!
(12 Aug 2017, 6:24 am)Ambivalence Very first post here. Googling x10 and dalton park brought me here. I live in Murton, and work in Middlesbrough. Is this alteration confirmed? It will make my life much much easier. I've personally been canvassing everyone who will listen to try and make this change! Currently use x10 and have to rely on a lift to get me to the slip rd in Plee
oh, and pointless and irritating will get at least 5 people I know to work and back!
