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Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017

Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017

RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
There is a video on YouTube of one of the unbranded South Shields Enviro 300s being towed back to the depot yesterday - with the rear of the vehicle attached to the tow truck.

There are quite a few sounding quite rough/worn-out.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(04 Nov 2017, 8:28 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Thanks for the information. Any idea why the 100 isn't an X as it technically is an express service?

I have found some old pictures of the Busways 100. Seems odd it has such a big number for such an early service.

The 100 must have started when the Metrocentre (then MetroCentre) opened.

MetroCentre opened in October 1986, the 100 started in February 1987

100 MetroCentre Shuttle
Since the creation of Busways coincided with the opening of the MetroCentre shopping mall in Gateshead, this saw the creation and subsequent continuous operation of one of the few south of the River Tyne services of the Newcastle division, the 100 MetroCentre Shuttle which commenced in February 1987, initially using Reeve Burgess minibuses and ex-London Country Bristol LHS buses.
 In 1989 these were replaced with Scania N113CRB Alexander PS buses.
100 Shuttle was operated in a dedicated livery of the newest delivered single deck vehicles. The livery has undergone several iterations, and now exists as a rather subdued route-branded version of the standard Stagecoach livery, albeit still operated by unique new Enviro300 single-deckers.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
Ring them. Get them to put it writing and give it to your employer
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(26 Nov 2017, 9:57 pm)idiot wrote Ring them. Get them to put it writing and give it to your employer

Unfortunately I can't get my job back. I am interested to find out what happened to my bus though.

I have emailed Stagecoach.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(26 Nov 2017, 10:29 pm)idiot wrote Worth a try surely?


I had to quit my job as the bus was regularly unreliable.   

But for the future, would Stagecoach help me keep my job if the bus was an issue?

On Friday, I think Black Friday might have been the reason the bus didn't turn up. But hopefully Stagecoach will reply and give the answer I am looking for.
Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(27 Nov 2017, 1:20 am)OrangeArrow49 wrote I had to quit my job as the bus was regularly unreliable.   

But for the future, would Stagecoach help me keep my job if the bus was an issue?

On Friday, I think Black Friday might have been the reason the bus didn't turn up. But hopefully Stagecoach will reply and give the answer I am looking for.


Hang on here, u saying that you lost the job because the bus was a no show , which means the employer sacked you because you were late or something and now you saying that you had to quit your job because the bus didn't turn up???, there's 2 different reasons here.


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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(27 Nov 2017, 6:42 am)cbma06 wrote Hang on here, u saying that you lost the job because the bus was a no show , which means the employer sacked you because you were late or something and now you saying that you had to quit your job because the bus didn't turn up???, there's 2 different reasons here.


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I had to resign because the bus was unreliable on a regular basis, and at this time of year weather and traffic will be an issue. I was suffering in the cold waiting for the bus, on the off chance it would leave early, which it did on occasions.

On Friday the 7 was a no show, this would have been my third late if the bus ever turned up. I would be disciplined for three lates, despite all being due to the bus, I was always waiting at the stop well in advance, and I ultimately would have been sacked due to repeated lateness and even absence if the bus never turned up at all.  I decided the job was unsuitable going forward, as the bus was getting worse, not better.

Would Stagecoach contacting my employer make any difference in future?

I am waiting to hear further from Stagecoach with regards to where the bus was and when it departed my stop on Friday. 

I lost my job due to the bus, but I quit before getting sacked. That is the situation.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
I heard back from Stagecoach today. The 7 to Metrocentre did turn up 14 minutes late and got to Metrocentre 20 minutes late. I would've only been a little bit late for work, but it was a problem too regularly unfortunately. Traffic congestion and road works have caused significant delays on the route and throw bad weather into the mix, I would be late almost daily. The second problem was the cold weather and waiting a long time for the bus in ever decreasing temperatures.

Now the job is gone I don't have to wait in the cold for the number 7 bus anymore, which is a relief.

Too many things put buses off timetable, and I think in the future this will only get worse unfortunately, for all bus service from all of the operators. I think we have to not rely on the bus too much.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote I heard back from Stagecoach today. The 7 to Metrocentre did turn up 14 minutes late and got to Metrocentre 20 minutes late. I would've only been a little bit late for work, but it was a problem too regularly unfortunately.  Traffic congestion and road works have caused significant delays on the route and throw bad weather into the mix, I would be late almost daily. The second problem was the cold weather and waiting a long time for the bus in ever decreasing temperatures.

Now the job is gone I don't have to wait in the cold for the number 7 bus anymore, which is a relief.

Too many things put buses off timetable, and I think in the future this will only get worse unfortunately, for all bus service from all of the operators. I think we have to not rely on the bus too much.

Not rely on the bus too much. That's a bit hard when you don't drive and have no other choice..

I'm sorry I'm a manager for a store in the Metrocentre and I travel by public transport to and from work. On a good day it can take me 45 mina to an hour on a bad day its been noted to me over 2 hours.

if you had been my member of staff my suggestion would have been to get the bus before the one you were risking. Yes it seems harsh and why should you. But if some people need the job they will do this if ita cold and the bus is late yes its annoying but that is life at the end of the day. Bus have run late for years it will not change its they way things go. .
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 7:20 pm)ifm001 wrote Not rely on the bus too much. That's a bit hard when you don't drive and have no other choice..

I'm sorry I'm a manager for a store in the Metrocentre and I travel by public transport to and from work. On a good day it can take me 45 mina to an hour on a bad day its been noted to me over 2 hours.

if you had been my member of staff my suggestion would have been to get the bus before the one you were risking. Yes it seems harsh and why should you. But if some people need the job they will do this if ita cold and the bus is late yes its annoying but that is life at the end of the day. Bus have run late for years it will not change its they way things go. .

Trust me, I know. That has always been my exact situation.

Don't feel like giving me a job, do you? I enjoyed working in the Metrocentre. I was usually on time, it would usually take 40-50 minutes or so to get to work and usually around 30 minutes to get back. 
Yes, I had considered getting the previous bus, that was even less reliable and would often involve waiting even longer in the cold. Admittedly, I would've been on time, and on some occasions very early. I didn't think of it as 'why should I?', but more I don't get paid to do that and the bus operators should make some effort to either stick to a reasonable timetable, or provide more information etc. 

I seriously thought it was a health risk waiting so long in the cold when the bus was late, not ideal conditions when the bus is on time or even when its early. Buses certainly have run late for years, and that can't be helped. The cold weather lost me the job rather than public transport issues. Disappointing, I was good at my job and I enjoyed it, but didn't like waiting in the cold or arriving late.  

Thank you for your reply. I think alternatives will be needed in the future is all I meant as in my opinion buses will get less and less reliable in years to come.   

Hopefully I will get another job soon, and hopefully the buses won't let me down! I am very employable.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 8:01 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Trust me, I know. That has always been my exact situation.

Don't feel like giving me a job, do you? I enjoyed working in the Metrocentre. I was usually on time, it would usually take 40-50 minutes or so to get to work and usually around 30 minutes to get back. 
Yes, I had considered getting the previous bus, that was even less reliable and would often involve waiting even longer in the cold. Admittedly, I would've been on time, and on some occasions very early. I didn't think of it as 'why should I?', but more I don't get paid to do that and the bus operators should make some effort to either stick to a reasonable timetable, or provide more information etc. 

I seriously thought it was a health risk waiting so long in the cold when the bus was late, not ideal conditions when the bus is on time or even when its early. Buses certainly have run late for years, and that can't be helped. The cold weather lost me the job rather than public transport issues. Disappointing, I was good at my job and I enjoyed it, but didn't like waiting in the cold or arriving late.  

Thank you for your reply. I think alternatives will be needed in the future is all I meant as in my opinion buses will get less and less reliable in years to come.   

Hopefully I will get another job soon, and hopefully the buses won't let me down! I am very employable.

well I admire your honesty. I will be recruiting after the New Year, probably March. If your still looking for work watch this space. Its not at the Metrocentre and is only seasonal during the May to October but "every little helps".
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 8:07 pm)ifm001 wrote well I admire your honesty. I will be recruiting after the New Year, probably March. If your still looking for work watch this space. Its not at the Metrocentre and is only seasonal during the May to October but "every little helps".

I would really appreciate the opportunity. Seasonal is good, and I certainly agree every little helps. What is the job you will be recruiting for? Where is the job? Thanks.

I am reliable and punctual, I just struggle with occasional bus issues.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 8:20 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote I would really appreciate the opportunity. Seasonal is good, and I certainly agree every little helps. What is the job you will be recruiting for? Where is the job? Thanks.

I am reliable and punctual, I just struggle with occasional bus issues.

ita getting off topic so send me a PM and I can give u some basic info
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 8:32 pm)ifm001 wrote ita getting off topic so send me a PM and I can give u some basic info

I have sent you a PM. Thanks.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 8:01 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Trust me, I know. That has always been my exact situation.

Don't feel like giving me a job, do you? I enjoyed working in the Metrocentre. I was usually on time, it would usually take 40-50 minutes or so to get to work and usually around 30 minutes to get back. 
Yes, I had considered getting the previous bus, that was even less reliable and would often involve waiting even longer in the cold. Admittedly, I would've been on time, and on some occasions very early. I didn't think of it as 'why should I?', but more I don't get paid to do that and the bus operators should make some effort to either stick to a reasonable timetable, or provide more information etc. 

I seriously thought it was a health risk waiting so long in the cold when the bus was late, not ideal conditions when the bus is on time or even when its early. Buses certainly have run late for years, and that can't be helped. The cold weather lost me the job rather than public transport issues. Disappointing, I was good at my job and I enjoyed it, but didn't like waiting in the cold or arriving late.  

Thank you for your reply. I think alternatives will be needed in the future is all I meant as in my opinion buses will get less and less reliable in years to come.   

Hopefully I will get another job soon, and hopefully the buses won't let me down! I am very employable.

Years ago, I relied on a bus on a half hourly frequency to get me to work in a shop.
It took roughly half an hour to do the journey, so I knew if I got the 10.20 bus, I could run the 5mins (used to compete, so was pretty nippy) and still have 5mins to spare before the shift started.

It didn't take much to make the bus late and quite often a doddery old person got in the way just as I got up to full speed.

It annoyed me at the time when the boss told me to get an earlier bus. Not because I was lazy and wanted the extra half hour in bed or in front of the telly, but because if I was late, it was never my fault.
It was the bus drivers fault, the car in fronts fault, the doddery old person who dawdled out in front of me or blocked the entrance to the shop...
If that bus turned up on time, if the car didn't drive so slow, if the doddery old person didn't dawdle, I would still be early.

I suppose the question is, how long do we give ourselves to ensure we aren't late? Get the earlier bus (and wait around as that's late too or has broken down)? The one before then?
Learning to drive and sacking off the bus still hasn't given me the answer - despite me having 20 odd years to come up with one.

It took 15 mins to get back from the office the other night. 2 hours to get there in the morning...
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(28 Nov 2017, 6:57 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote I heard back from Stagecoach today. The 7 to Metrocentre did turn up 14 minutes late and got to Metrocentre 20 minutes late. I would've only been a little bit late for work, but it was a problem too regularly unfortunately.  Traffic congestion and road works have caused significant delays on the route and throw bad weather into the mix, I would be late almost daily. The second problem was the cold weather and waiting a long time for the bus in ever decreasing temperatures.

Now the job is gone I don't have to wait in the cold for the number 7 bus anymore, which is a relief.

Too many things put buses off timetable, and I think in the future this will only get worse unfortunately, for all bus service from all of the operators. I think we have to not rely on the bus too much.

I'm currently doing a school run which involves 2 buses each way, both subject to their own delays. Rather than being late collecting my kid from school, I catch an earlier bus (I could catch the 14:18, then onto a 14:45 connection to arrive at school just before 15:25, when the bell goes, but instead, I catch the 13:48, then the 14:33 connection, giving myself lots of wiggle room on all but the very worst days - I caught the 14:21 connection when Lumiere was on, giving myself 25 minutes leeway). I know the 7 is only hourly, but the bus from my village is only twice an hour and I catch it at the end of an over 3 hour round trip, meaning that 15 minute or more delays are not unusual. I just have to kill time. Whatever the weather. Killing time at the metrocentre isn't so weather dependent.

(28 Nov 2017, 9:59 pm)Andreos1 wrote Years ago, I relied on a bus on a half hourly frequency to get me to work in a shop.
It took roughly half an hour to do the journey, so I knew if I got the 10.20 bus, I could run the 5mins (used to compete, so was pretty nippy) and still have 5mins to spare before the shift started.

It didn't take much to make the bus late and quite often a doddery old person got in the way just as I got up to full speed.

It annoyed me at the time when the boss told me to get an earlier bus. Not because I was lazy and wanted the extra half hour in bed or in front of the telly, but because if I was late, it was never my fault.
It was the bus drivers fault, the car in fronts fault, the doddery old person who dawdled out in front of me or blocked the entrance to the shop...
If that bus turned up on time, if the car didn't drive so slow, if the doddery old person didn't dawdle, I would still be early.

I suppose the question is, how long do we give ourselves to ensure we aren't late? Get the earlier bus (and wait around as that's late too or has broken down)? The one before then?
Learning to drive and sacking off the bus still hasn't given me the answer - despite me having 20 odd years to come up with one.

It took 15 mins to get back from the office the other night. 2 hours to get there in the morning...

Husband gave up after 2 hours and worked from home after that idiot car thief snarled up the A19/A689, last week! Definitely no guarantees with the car, but he does work 8-4, rather than 9-5 because his journey there and back is 10 minutes quicker, as a result.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(29 Nov 2017, 9:53 am)RBZ 5459 wrote 22017 has been collected by Alpha Recovery for scrapping.

It was in service last week wasn't it?!

(29 Nov 2017, 10:28 am)Cock Robin wrote It was in service last week wasn't it?!

Or maybe not.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(29 Nov 2017, 9:53 am)RBZ 5459 wrote 22017 has been collected by Alpha Recovery for scrapping.

Was that today?
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(29 Nov 2017, 10:57 am)Cock Robin wrote Was that today?

Over the last couple of days I think they got it, its been SORN'd a while on disposals. Getting cut up today anyway, so tyres and powerpack can return.


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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(29 Nov 2017, 9:53 am)RBZ 5459 wrote 22017 has been collected by Alpha Recovery for scrapping.

Are they sending any others for scrap? There doesn't seem to be anyone interested in buying them for future use.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(29 Nov 2017, 11:39 am)Dans_bus_photos wrote Are they sending any others for scrap? There doesn't seem to be anyone interested in buying them for future use.

Not too sure, would hope so - they've hung around long enough. 22017 has been at Slatyford for a while although a Stockton bus.


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RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
Noticed that some of the Sunderland buses have adverts promoting their tickets, couldn't get a pic, as my camera on my phone is broke...
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Stagecoach North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(29 Nov 2017, 6:32 pm)Michael wrote Noticed that some of the Sunderland buses have adverts promoting their tickets, couldn't get a pic, as my camera on my phone is broke...

No idea how long they have been doing it, but the scrolling destination screens have ticket prices on too.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'