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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - December 2017
06 Dec 2017, 2:54 pm,
Post: #101
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 2:13 pm)TEN 6083 wrote https://flic.kr/p/ZSy96K


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Looks like its been caught up in an explosion in a paint factory!

It has those awful blocks that the X9/10 features too.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
06 Dec 2017, 5:12 pm,
Post: #102
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 11:34 am)Rapidsnap wrote Was still out in service yesterday, photoed it in Sunderland City Centre yesterday morning.

5307 was taken out of service yeterday morning at 11:53 @ Castletown Broadway, 5477 replaced it.
06 Dec 2017, 6:54 pm,
Post: #103
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 10:17 am)RBZ 5459 wrote President-ousting, 62 plate Geminis I believe.

Hopefully some will replace the Omnidekkas on the Toonlink.
06 Dec 2017, 7:26 pm,
Post: #104
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
Houghton called off again due to the kids opening engine flaps...

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06 Dec 2017, 7:40 pm,
Post: #105
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 10:17 am)RBZ 5459 wrote President-ousting, 62 plate Geminis I believe.

Finally, wonder if they'll just take the spare roles at depots, which have presidents?, supposedly they'll start to arrive in January... wonder if they'll just follow on after the last Citaro is done?


Edit:

Then again, The Toonlink Omnidekka's don't have WIFI as of yet...
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06 Dec 2017, 7:54 pm,
Post: #106
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 7:40 pm)Michael wrote Finally, wonder if they'll just take the spare roles at depots, which have presidents?, supposedly they'll start to arrive in January... wonder if they'll just follow on after the last Citaro is done?


Edit:

Then again, The Toonlink Omnidekka's don't have WIFI as of yet...

Supposedly 30 of them eventually, far more than Presidents, could see the end of the B7TL Gemini. Just getting light refurbishments, would expect single door conversions with that too.


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06 Dec 2017, 8:03 pm,
Post: #107
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 7:54 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Supposedly 30 of them eventually, far more than Presidents, could see the end of the B7TL Gemini. Just getting light refurbishments, would expect single door conversions with that too.

Deleted my last post as i misread it...

If they are getting 30, wonder if the Vykings will go to.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
06 Dec 2017, 8:24 pm,
Post: #108
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 7:40 pm)Michael wrote Finally, wonder if they'll just take the spare roles at depots, which have presidents?, supposedly they'll start to arrive in January... wonder if they'll just follow on after the last Citaro is done?


Edit:

Then again, The Toonlink Omnidekka's don't have WIFI as of yet...

Yes i agree would be a hell of an uprade from the Omnis. Might also see some more single deck routes upgraded.......
06 Dec 2017, 8:28 pm,
Post: #109
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
We'll find out if the Toon Link will get anything to replace the Omnidekkas if the changes to the X30/X31 in January involves the X30 being rerouted away from the low bridge.
06 Dec 2017, 8:31 pm,
Post: #110
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 8:28 pm)S813 FVK wrote We'll find out if the Toon Link will get anything to replace the Omnidekkas if the changes to the X30/X31 in January involves the X30 being rerouted away from the low bridge.

They might be like arrivas low height geminis...
06 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm,
Post: #111
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
Unless things have changed, the Omnidekkas will be staying where they are. President and Vyking replacement it was said, works on numbers too. High height LJ62*** the first 13 due, odd for a spare role if as above.


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06 Dec 2017, 9:07 pm,
Post: #112
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Unless things have changed, the Omnidekkas will be staying where they are. President and Vyking replacement it was said, works on numbers too. High height LJ62*** the first 13 due, odd for a spare role if as above.

Hmmmm before xmas? Yes being that young seems odd to just have them as spare. Saying that might be used to make up PVR on CC and a few spares for washy and dptford with the view to have cascades displace presidents
06 Dec 2017, 9:22 pm,
Post: #113
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Unless things have changed, the Omnidekkas will be staying where they are. President and Vyking replacement it was said, works on numbers too. High height LJ62*** the first 13 due, odd for a spare role if as above.

Looking at the fleet list there 14 Volvo B7TL Presidents, 1 Dennis Trident President and 10 Volvo B7TL Vykings remaining in the fleet. This would leave 5 B9's from London remaining available to replace 5 Omnidekkas, plus if the Volvo B7TL Geminis are to become available for cascade to replace older deckers in the fleet as a result of the B9's entering service at Washington and Chester for example, then this would allow further Omnidekkas to be withdrawn.

In theory all the Volvo B7TL Geminis will be available for cascade once the B9's from London and Angel StreetDecks have entered service, so I may not be far off with the above.

10 B9's to Riverside to replace Vykings
8 B9's to Percy Main replacing Presidents - 1 Omnidekka from Percy Main to Stanley replacing 3889
9 B9's to Chester replacing Presidents + 2 B7 Geminis
3 B9's to Washington replacing B7 Geminis
7 Volvo B7TL Geminis to Stanley replacing 7 Omnidekkas at Stanley - (Note there are 7 Toon Link Branded Examples)
06 Dec 2017, 9:26 pm,
Post: #114
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:07 pm)JP6004 wrote Hmmmm before xmas? Yes being that young seems odd to just have them as spare. Saying that might be used to make up PVR on CC and a few spares for washy and dptford with the view to have cascades displace presidents

Not long I'd suspect, depends where they are in the refurb/conversion process if they're at Bus and Coach World now. Little has been said about them since they were announced internally. Bits obviously filtering though on a driver level now.


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06 Dec 2017, 9:30 pm,
Post: #115
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:26 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Not long I'd suspect, depends where they are in the refurb/conversion process if they're at Bus and Coach World now. Little has been said about them since they were announced internally. Bits obviously filtering though on a driver level now.

Well least will reduce age profile quite a bit.
06 Dec 2017, 9:30 pm,
Post: #116
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:22 pm)Malarkey wrote Looking at the fleet list there 14 Volvo B7TL Presidents, 1 Dennis Trident President and 10 Volvo B7TL Vykings remaining in the fleet. This would leave 5 B9's from London remaining available to replace 5 Omnidekkas, plus if the Volvo B7TL Geminis are to become available for cascade to replace older deckers in the fleet as a result of the B9's entering service at Washington and Chester for example, then this would allow further Omnidekkas to be withdrawn.

In theory all the Volvo B7TL Geminis will be available for cascade once the B9's from London and Angel StreetDecks have entered service, so I may not be far off with the above.

10 B9's to Riverside to replace Vykings
8 B9's to Percy Main replacing Presidents - 1 Omnidekka from Percy Main to Stanley replacing 3889
9 B9's to Chester replacing Presidents + 2 B7 Geminis
3 B9's to Washington replacing B7 Geminis
7 Volvo B7TL Geminis to Stanley replacing 7 Omnidekkas at Stanley - (Note there are 7 Toon Link Branded Examples)

I think they'd bin off the B7TL Gemini to Ensign if I'm honest. Scanias I expect will be better MPG too.


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06 Dec 2017, 9:32 pm,
Post: #117
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:30 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote I think they'd bin off the B7TL Gemini to Ensign if I'm honest. Scanias I expect will be better MPG too.

Possibly explains why 3941/2 were only touched up instead of receiving new corp livery
06 Dec 2017, 9:43 pm,
Post: #118
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:30 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote I think they'd bin off the B7TL Gemini to Ensign if I'm honest. Scanias I expect will be better MPG too.

The Scanias are in terrible condition, personally felt unsafe when I got on 6133 on the 6 about 6 months ago going around Dipton etc towards Newcastle, windows were shaking the lot, compared to the B7 Geminis which are 4/5 years younger. Washington have done a cracking job in maintaining 3941/3942 and bringing them up to the standard of 3943 performance wise since transferring from Riverside, 396/65 at Chester on the 21 are cracking also.
06 Dec 2017, 9:47 pm,
Post: #119
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 9:02 pm)RBZ 5459 wrote Unless things have changed, the Omnidekkas will be staying where they are. President and Vyking replacement it was said, works on numbers too. High height LJ62*** the first 13 due, odd for a spare role if as above.

Of course the downside is the gasket glazing. Cant have everything i suppose  Big Grin
06 Dec 2017, 10:12 pm,
Post: #120
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - November 2017
(06 Dec 2017, 8:03 pm)Michael wrote Deleted my last post as i misread it...

If they are getting 30, wonder if the Vykings will go to.

I have no idea where the mention of 30 has come from, the plan is just for these 13, which should see of the B7/President.


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