Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2018
Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2018
(28 Jan 2018, 9:47 pm)MrBoyt If the white on black blinds are so unreadable then surely the removal of the via points is either not a problem, or will make it easier to read as the display isn't so full of characters?
If you got on the Q1 or Q2 and thought it took too long, then you'd probably get a different bus next time, no harm done. So yeah, still don't think it's much of an issue.
(28 Jan 2018, 9:47 pm)MrBoyt If the white on black blinds are so unreadable then surely the removal of the via points is either not a problem, or will make it easier to read as the display isn't so full of characters?
If you got on the Q1 or Q2 and thought it took too long, then you'd probably get a different bus next time, no harm done. So yeah, still don't think it's much of an issue.
(28 Jan 2018, 6:35 pm)Jamie M You can operate your phone whilst driving, you just need a cradle. The ticket machines are fixed objects. As long as the driving is safe, there is no legal issues, and there certainly shouldn't be any moral ones in that scenario.
(28 Jan 2018, 6:35 pm)Jamie M You can operate your phone whilst driving, you just need a cradle. The ticket machines are fixed objects. As long as the driving is safe, there is no legal issues, and there certainly shouldn't be any moral ones in that scenario.
In regards to the single ultimate destination being shown on the blinds, I'm not a follower of Go North East, and their many service changes at all, I have to go off memory which bus goes where, where that bus terminates and if it still runs as that number, or even at all.
It doesn't help that at major interchanges operated by Nexus, or even at places in Northumberland where Nexus manage the real-time information infrastructure, that they've removed the via points and the alphabetical destination countdown screens, of which I found rather helpful where the destination display on the vehicle would be obscured by the building or queues etc. But now, it merely shows as a countdown with the bus number, ultimate destination and time, paired with the ultimate destination being shown on the bus, it's a recipe for disaster.
It works for Lothian, but only because of the comprehensive information available on-the-street through bus stop liners/displays, printed timetables and TfE shops, and the rather simplified network which rarely has 'moderate' changes, but down here, it's not going to work.
Despite being an enthusiast, I don't really fit the stereotype of "well you know everything, so your opinion is irrelevant". I think your average person has more important stuff to fit into their head than try and remember a completely irrelevant place name which will be displayed on the front of their bus...
Not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but 3970 has been used at Stanley for a few days now. It was on X78 this morning. Also solo 696 was on Tesco free bus today, another loan?
(29 Jan 2018, 1:16 pm)Olympian3521 Not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but 3970 has been used at Stanley for a few days now. It was on X78 this morning. Also solo 696 was on Tesco free bus today, another loan?
(29 Jan 2018, 1:16 pm)Olympian3521 Not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but 3970 has been used at Stanley for a few days now. It was on X78 this morning. Also solo 696 was on Tesco free bus today, another loan?
(29 Jan 2018, 1:52 pm)Coppercap40 6332out on 21 juzt left gateshead for eldon
(29 Jan 2018, 1:52 pm)Coppercap40 6332out on 21 juzt left gateshead for eldon
Maybe part of the problem lies with the vehicle designer. Harping back to the 1950's - ECW Bristol L & K types had a split destination screen. Final destination at the top and the via points below. If the blind was deeper a couple of via points could be displayed beneath the final destination?
I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm)ne14ne1 I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm)ne14ne1 I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 7:24 pm)Dan Not quite what you're suggesting, but when things quieten down, a plan is in the works to try automatic changing of destinations again.
This was disabled after the initial trial on Quaylink back some years ago, as the technology wasn't really all there. On the new Next Stop Announcement hardware, the technology is much improved and definitely works (the X9/X10 change destinations by themselves in Peterlee/Dalton Park, and the 81/82/83/84 had this feature tested a week or two ago).
So, on arrival into Gateshead, the destination on the 21 will change to "Eldon Square" by itself, and so on.
The 21, 26/27 and Q1 are all capable of doing this.
(29 Jan 2018, 7:24 pm)Dan Not quite what you're suggesting, but when things quieten down, a plan is in the works to try automatic changing of destinations again.
This was disabled after the initial trial on Quaylink back some years ago, as the technology wasn't really all there. On the new Next Stop Announcement hardware, the technology is much improved and definitely works (the X9/X10 change destinations by themselves in Peterlee/Dalton Park, and the 81/82/83/84 had this feature tested a week or two ago).
So, on arrival into Gateshead, the destination on the 21 will change to "Eldon Square" by itself, and so on.
The 21, 26/27 and Q1 are all capable of doing this.
(29 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm)ne14ne1 I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm)ne14ne1 I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm)ne14ne1 I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.Like the metro,St James,then flips to via the coast
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 7:12 pm)ne14ne1 I like the new clear bold displays, however I do think rather than just 'Newcastle' which isn't very informative, it should flip between 'Newcastle' (for 1 or 2 seconds) then the street/area its terminating at (for 1 or 2 seconds), and keep flicking between the two.Like the metro,St James,then flips to via the coast
E.g 'Newcastle' ...then 'Eldon Sq', or 'Pilgrim St', or 'Market St', or 'Central Station'.
My point being is there's quite a little hike between Central St and Eldon Sq for example, but the 54 and 21 both just say Newcastle.
I know many have said the infos there on the bus stops, (and I realise I'm being totally selfish here), but I'm lucky enough to use a stop where several different numbered buses head towards Newcastle. I'm often just getting to the bus stop and a stream of several different numbered buses are approaching, all now just saying 'Newcastle'. Luckily enough I've just about remembered where I'll get dropped off if I board the 1, 11, 21, 26, 27, 28, 54, 56, 57 & 58!
(I know, nice problem to have, but you get my drift).
(29 Jan 2018, 4:14 pm)grandad Maybe part of the problem lies with the vehicle designer. Harping back to the 1950's - ECW Bristol L & K types had a split destination screen. Final destination at the top and the via points below. If the blind was deeper a couple of via points could be displayed beneath the final destination?
(29 Jan 2018, 4:14 pm)grandad Maybe part of the problem lies with the vehicle designer. Harping back to the 1950's - ECW Bristol L & K types had a split destination screen. Final destination at the top and the via points below. If the blind was deeper a couple of via points could be displayed beneath the final destination?
