(05 Dec 2013, 4:24 pm)aureolin wrote I can't see the DFDS or Quaylink services getting nowt... DFDS serves a contractual purpose as it is, and the Quaylink does little but ferry a couple of pensioners around a day. Most times I use it I'm the only one on it.
(05 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm)Rob wrote Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
(05 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm)Rob wrote Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
(05 Dec 2013, 5:47 pm)CatsFast101 wrote Interesting, I was hoping Prince Bishops before Laser/Crusader.
Personally I would of liked to seen:-
*Versas for Lime (14)
*B9's for Prince Bishops (12)
*Citaros/Versas for Highwayman (12)
*Solo SR for East Durham/W5 & W6 (20)
*StreetLites for Fab 57/Pulse (10)
*Versas for Centurion (10)
Speaking of Streetlites could some smaller 8.8 & 9.5 lengths be bought as MPD replacements? Things like 265 can get quite busy they could be a good option IMO.
(05 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)Tom wrote You never know, Citaros from the Laser might go onto the ''Prince Bishops''? - Personally, looking at the loadings, I don't think the 20 really needs a decker, as from what I've seen they have been busy, but not busy enough. However, the peak loadings seem good, so maybe put the odd President/Vyking on the X20?
(05 Dec 2013, 5:56 pm)aureolin wrote I used the 20 daily for a couple of years, and it was always packed? Houghton to Durham anyway... You were often educated on what a tinned sardine feels like on a morning or afternoon rush.
(05 Dec 2013, 5:58 pm)Tom wrote Thats why I said the peak loadings could do with a President or a Vyking- Through the day, it's busier from HLS to Durham from what I've saw
(05 Dec 2013, 6:03 pm)aureolin wrote It kind of buggers you though.. I doubt customers would appreciate being promised these wonderful new buses (if they get Citaros for example), yet on their way to and from work be stuck with a 10+ year old spare Vyking or President..
(05 Dec 2013, 6:06 pm)Tom wrote I suppose you've got a point there! - Do you know if the X20 is the busiest? If so, that wouldn't be part of the ''Prince Bishops'' brand, and use a President?
(05 Dec 2013, 6:09 pm)aureolin wrote Haven't used it for a while, but it used to be just as busy as the 20. Lots of people travelling from the colleges and uni in Durham I found.
(05 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)Michael wrote I would say if these are getting new buses... nothing confirmed yet..
Laser and Crusader will be upgraded to B9's
Lime - Versa or Citaro
Streetshuttle - Versa?
X66 - not sure, i would say these would be new bendy's, Mercedes-Benz Citaro
I wanted the Prince bishops to get decker's =(
(05 Dec 2013, 6:06 pm)Tom wrote I suppose you've got a point there! - Do you know if the X20 is the busiest? If so, that wouldn't be part of the ''Prince Bishops'' brand, and use a President?
(05 Dec 2013, 5:01 pm)Rob wrote Erm...
- Lime
- X66
- Laser
- Crusader
- Washington Street Shuttle
... prehaps
(05 Dec 2013, 6:34 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Lime is already confirmed for March 2014 from that Optare Press Release when we learned about the Venture and Citylink getting New Buses a few months back, I have just remembered about that and I would assume everyone else forgot about it also and I am sure Rob hinted at it a few weeks back also if my memory serves me correctly, Basically why I included it in my list of Predictions on all 3 Scenarios.
As for the others, The X66 in all honesty I haven't a clue on what could be used on their due to that Low Bridge Metro Bridge as it comes off the Centrelink heading into Gateshead.
Laser I thought would get 6 New Citaros to free up the Solars so that the Renowns etc could be Withdrawn, Thus helping to Standardise the GNE Fleet more.
Crusader is a Suprising One for me, I think maybe if the Laser does get Brand New Buses, then the Citaros off there could go onto the Crusader, and have the Frequency Increased between Newcastle and Jarrow as that's the Busiest Section of the Route. For Example, Newcastle to South Shields Every 12 Minutes, and then have a Short 27A which would go as far as Jarrow Every 12 Minutes, So you'd then have a 27 Every 6/7 Minutes.
And Finally my Local Route the WSS, The reason I excluded it from the list is because I believe the Quaylink will receive an Upgrade in 2014 which would allow for the Quaylink Versas to be Transferred over to Washington for the M2/M3, Allowing for the Cadets to go elsewhere.
(05 Dec 2013, 6:34 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Lime is already confirmed for March 2014 from that Optare Press Release when we learned about the Venture and Citylink getting New Buses a few months back, I have just remembered about that and I would assume everyone else forgot about it also and I am sure Rob hinted at it a few weeks back also if my memory serves me correctly, Basically why I included it in my list of Predictions on all 3 Scenarios.
As for the others, The X66 in all honesty I haven't a clue on what could be used on their due to that Low Bridge Metro Bridge as it comes off the Centrelink heading into Gateshead.
Laser I thought would get 6 New Citaros to free up the Solars so that the Renowns etc could be Withdrawn, Thus helping to Standardise the GNE Fleet more.
Crusader is a Suprising One for me, I think maybe if the Laser does get Brand New Buses, then the Citaros off there could go onto the Crusader, and have the Frequency Increased between Newcastle and Jarrow as that's the Busiest Section of the Route. For Example, Newcastle to South Shields Every 12 Minutes, and then have a Short 27A which would go as far as Jarrow Every 12 Minutes, So you'd then have a 27 Every 6/7 Minutes.
And Finally my Local Route the WSS, The reason I excluded it from the list is because I believe the Quaylink will receive an Upgrade in 2014 which would allow for the Quaylink Versas to be Transferred over to Washington for the M2/M3, Allowing for the Cadets to go elsewhere.
(05 Dec 2013, 6:38 pm)citaro5284 wrote I think your memory is not serving you correct
(05 Dec 2013, 6:34 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote As for the others, The X66 in all honesty I haven't a clue on what could be used on their due to that Low Bridge Metro Bridge as it comes off the Centrelink heading into Gateshead.
(05 Dec 2013, 6:54 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote That's a good point, Thinking about it now perhaps some form of Hybrid could be an Option
(05 Dec 2013, 7:05 pm)Michael wrote Hybrids might be a good option, which style would u go for, Versa or would u go for the Gas buses like the ones Stagecoach in Sunderland are getting?
What was that bus which was on trail on the X66 and M1 ages ago?, I had a few rides and it was a really good ride, they were long to.
(05 Dec 2013, 7:15 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Neither I would go with the Volvo 7900, And the Bus which was the M1 a few years back was a Scania Omnicity Tri-Axle