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N1cholas



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15 Apr 2019, 5:05 pm #121
The buzzfare maps really are unclear and would be better with a bit more detail on them
N1cholas
15 Apr 2019, 5:05 pm #121

The buzzfare maps really are unclear and would be better with a bit more detail on them

Andreos1



14,218
15 Apr 2019, 5:16 pm #122
(15 Apr 2019, 4:33 pm)Michael Does anyone know where the red zone boundary ends near Penshaw?

Is it after or before?
I can't find anything on exactly where it ends, the map of the zones is useless.

Sure it's Penshaw Bank Top/Boundary Houses.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
15 Apr 2019, 5:16 pm #122

(15 Apr 2019, 4:33 pm)Michael Does anyone know where the red zone boundary ends near Penshaw?

Is it after or before?
I can't find anything on exactly where it ends, the map of the zones is useless.

Sure it's Penshaw Bank Top/Boundary Houses.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

park5354



406
15 Apr 2019, 5:46 pm #123
(15 Apr 2019, 5:16 pm)Andreos1 Sure it's Penshaw Bank Top/Boundary Houses.

correct
park5354
15 Apr 2019, 5:46 pm #123

(15 Apr 2019, 5:16 pm)Andreos1 Sure it's Penshaw Bank Top/Boundary Houses.

correct

15 Apr 2019, 7:49 pm #124
6301 was receiving assistance from an Alpha Recovery truck earlier today in Bishop Auckland bus station.
Ianthegoon
15 Apr 2019, 7:49 pm #124

6301 was receiving assistance from an Alpha Recovery truck earlier today in Bishop Auckland bus station.

Andreos1



14,218
15 Apr 2019, 8:08 pm #125
(15 Apr 2019, 5:05 pm)N1cholas The buzzfare maps really are unclear and would be better with a bit more detail on them

Maybe time to get rid and return to the old system? For example, everyone knows where the T&W/Co Durham LA border is.
Whereas an arbitrary colour boundary invented by a suit in GNE towers, is arguably a little more ambiguous.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
15 Apr 2019, 8:08 pm #125

(15 Apr 2019, 5:05 pm)N1cholas The buzzfare maps really are unclear and would be better with a bit more detail on them

Maybe time to get rid and return to the old system? For example, everyone knows where the T&W/Co Durham LA border is.
Whereas an arbitrary colour boundary invented by a suit in GNE towers, is arguably a little more ambiguous.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

16 Apr 2019, 8:09 am #126
Certainly the way the boundaries are coloured can cause confusion. Take for example the orange zone encompassing Ashington/Blyth and Alston and Allenheads. On the face of it that may not sound too bad as there are no direct buses without having to change and travel via 2 other zones. However, as I witnessed last week, a couple with Blue and Orange attempted to travel to Corbridge without the intermediate zone (cherry) The driver politely explained they required a 3 zone plus and showed the couple a map when they became argumentative. On the south side of the Tyne Valley the cherry zone will only take you 5 miles from Stanley Burn to Stocksfield Rail station, but an orange zone will cover you from there to Hexham and onwards to Alston/Allenheads/Bellingham/Haltwhisitle and Birdsoswald. Maybe the West Northumberland and Cumbria zone needs a look at with a different colour.
Tyne_Traveller
16 Apr 2019, 8:09 am #126

Certainly the way the boundaries are coloured can cause confusion. Take for example the orange zone encompassing Ashington/Blyth and Alston and Allenheads. On the face of it that may not sound too bad as there are no direct buses without having to change and travel via 2 other zones. However, as I witnessed last week, a couple with Blue and Orange attempted to travel to Corbridge without the intermediate zone (cherry) The driver politely explained they required a 3 zone plus and showed the couple a map when they became argumentative. On the south side of the Tyne Valley the cherry zone will only take you 5 miles from Stanley Burn to Stocksfield Rail station, but an orange zone will cover you from there to Hexham and onwards to Alston/Allenheads/Bellingham/Haltwhisitle and Birdsoswald. Maybe the West Northumberland and Cumbria zone needs a look at with a different colour.

V514DFT



2,242
16 Apr 2019, 12:37 pm #127
Especially if your not from round here,i can see why this would cause some confusion

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
16 Apr 2019, 12:37 pm #127

Especially if your not from round here,i can see why this would cause some confusion


Kind Regards
Tez

xpm



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16 Apr 2019, 3:55 pm #128
(16 Apr 2019, 8:09 am)Tyne_Traveller Certainly the way the boundaries are coloured can cause confusion. Take for example the orange zone encompassing Ashington/Blyth and Alston and Allenheads. On the face of it that may not sound too bad as there are no direct buses without having to change and travel via 2 other zones. However, as I witnessed last week, a couple with Blue and Orange attempted to travel to Corbridge without the intermediate zone (cherry) The driver politely explained they required a 3 zone plus and showed the couple a map when they became argumentative. On the south side of the Tyne Valley the cherry zone will only take you 5 miles from Stanley Burn to Stocksfield Rail station, but an orange zone will cover you from there to Hexham and onwards to Alston/Allenheads/Bellingham/Haltwhisitle and Birdsoswald. Maybe the West Northumberland and Cumbria zone needs a look at with a different colour.

There used to be a problem with people riding the length of the X84/85 and having a blue and orange only pass - because the app allows them to check in either end - it was and still is down to the driver to see what's being presented on the ticket machines when the pass is presented.  More often than not it was a mistake - either by the passenger, or by the corporate scheme not putting the correct zones for the entire journey.  It's frustrating because there is no route between the two zones - so the combination in effect is invalid.

It used to be easier to justify when the timetable had the colour zone required along the line map on the timetable and actually used to state a 3 zone ticket was required to travel through - however this stopped some time ago, a few iterations before the paper timetables were axed in fact.

I'm sure the Ticketer system is intelligent enough to do 'bounds checking' by one means or another, either by prompting the driver to select a destination stop when a ticket which doesn't cover the entire route of the service is presented, or otherwise.  This is not currently implemented so it is down to the driver to manually check this.  This is disappointing as it leaves the system open to abuse, intentional or unintentionally.
xpm
16 Apr 2019, 3:55 pm #128

(16 Apr 2019, 8:09 am)Tyne_Traveller Certainly the way the boundaries are coloured can cause confusion. Take for example the orange zone encompassing Ashington/Blyth and Alston and Allenheads. On the face of it that may not sound too bad as there are no direct buses without having to change and travel via 2 other zones. However, as I witnessed last week, a couple with Blue and Orange attempted to travel to Corbridge without the intermediate zone (cherry) The driver politely explained they required a 3 zone plus and showed the couple a map when they became argumentative. On the south side of the Tyne Valley the cherry zone will only take you 5 miles from Stanley Burn to Stocksfield Rail station, but an orange zone will cover you from there to Hexham and onwards to Alston/Allenheads/Bellingham/Haltwhisitle and Birdsoswald. Maybe the West Northumberland and Cumbria zone needs a look at with a different colour.

There used to be a problem with people riding the length of the X84/85 and having a blue and orange only pass - because the app allows them to check in either end - it was and still is down to the driver to see what's being presented on the ticket machines when the pass is presented.  More often than not it was a mistake - either by the passenger, or by the corporate scheme not putting the correct zones for the entire journey.  It's frustrating because there is no route between the two zones - so the combination in effect is invalid.

It used to be easier to justify when the timetable had the colour zone required along the line map on the timetable and actually used to state a 3 zone ticket was required to travel through - however this stopped some time ago, a few iterations before the paper timetables were axed in fact.

I'm sure the Ticketer system is intelligent enough to do 'bounds checking' by one means or another, either by prompting the driver to select a destination stop when a ticket which doesn't cover the entire route of the service is presented, or otherwise.  This is not currently implemented so it is down to the driver to manually check this.  This is disappointing as it leaves the system open to abuse, intentional or unintentionally.

GNE6312



1,091
16 Apr 2019, 4:17 pm #129
709 is back in service on the W2 today still wearing the rugby livery
GNE6312
16 Apr 2019, 4:17 pm #129

709 is back in service on the W2 today still wearing the rugby livery

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
16 Apr 2019, 4:38 pm #130
(16 Apr 2019, 4:17 pm)GNE6312 709 is back in service on the W2 today still wearing the rugby livery

It'll remain in the rugby livery until after the finals on 10/11 May.
Dan
16 Apr 2019, 4:38 pm #130

(16 Apr 2019, 4:17 pm)GNE6312 709 is back in service on the W2 today still wearing the rugby livery

It'll remain in the rugby livery until after the finals on 10/11 May.

GNE6312



1,091
16 Apr 2019, 4:47 pm #131
(16 Apr 2019, 4:38 pm)Dan It'll remain in the rugby livery until after the finals on 10/11 May.

Ok, will it be put in the 2019 corporate livery after the finals?
GNE6312
16 Apr 2019, 4:47 pm #131

(16 Apr 2019, 4:38 pm)Dan It'll remain in the rugby livery until after the finals on 10/11 May.

Ok, will it be put in the 2019 corporate livery after the finals?

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
16 Apr 2019, 5:41 pm #132
(16 Apr 2019, 4:47 pm)GNE6312 Ok, will it be put in the 2019 corporate livery after the finals?

Should be, yes.

Speaking of which;
- 672 should be back in service tomorrow at Percy Main in the 2019 fleet livery.
- 673 has now been fitted with USB sockets.
- 6143 is now being repainted into the 2019 fleet livery.
Dan
16 Apr 2019, 5:41 pm #132

(16 Apr 2019, 4:47 pm)GNE6312 Ok, will it be put in the 2019 corporate livery after the finals?

Should be, yes.

Speaking of which;
- 672 should be back in service tomorrow at Percy Main in the 2019 fleet livery.
- 673 has now been fitted with USB sockets.
- 6143 is now being repainted into the 2019 fleet livery.

ne14ne1



1,514
16 Apr 2019, 5:55 pm #133
(16 Apr 2019, 5:41 pm)Dan Should be, yes.

Speaking of which;
- 672 should be back in service tomorrow at Percy Main in the 2019 fleet livery.
- 673 has now been fitted with USB sockets.
- 6143 is now being repainted into the 2019 fleet livery.

Excellent. Any idea when we'll see 6000 out in its full livery?
Edited 16 Apr 2019, 5:56 pm by ne14ne1.
ne14ne1
16 Apr 2019, 5:55 pm #133

(16 Apr 2019, 5:41 pm)Dan Should be, yes.

Speaking of which;
- 672 should be back in service tomorrow at Percy Main in the 2019 fleet livery.
- 673 has now been fitted with USB sockets.
- 6143 is now being repainted into the 2019 fleet livery.

Excellent. Any idea when we'll see 6000 out in its full livery?

Michael



19,169
16 Apr 2019, 6:06 pm #134
(16 Apr 2019, 5:41 pm)Dan Should be, yes.

Speaking of which;
- 672 should be back in service tomorrow at Percy Main in the 2019 fleet livery.
- 673 has now been fitted with USB sockets.
- 6143 is now being repainted into the 2019 fleet livery.

Can you confirm where the Solo Sr's will go after they've been fitted with the USB's?

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Apr 2019, 6:06 pm #134

(16 Apr 2019, 5:41 pm)Dan Should be, yes.

Speaking of which;
- 672 should be back in service tomorrow at Percy Main in the 2019 fleet livery.
- 673 has now been fitted with USB sockets.
- 6143 is now being repainted into the 2019 fleet livery.

Can you confirm where the Solo Sr's will go after they've been fitted with the USB's?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
16 Apr 2019, 6:29 pm #135
(16 Apr 2019, 5:55 pm)ne14ne1 Excellent. Any idea when we'll see 6000 out in its full livery?

Possibly in a few weeks.

(16 Apr 2019, 6:06 pm)Michael Can you confirm where the Solo Sr's will go after they've been fitted with the USB's?

There may be a few surprises in store...
Dan
16 Apr 2019, 6:29 pm #135

(16 Apr 2019, 5:55 pm)ne14ne1 Excellent. Any idea when we'll see 6000 out in its full livery?

Possibly in a few weeks.

(16 Apr 2019, 6:06 pm)Michael Can you confirm where the Solo Sr's will go after they've been fitted with the USB's?

There may be a few surprises in store...

Michael



19,169
16 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm #136
(16 Apr 2019, 6:29 pm)Dan There may be a few surprises in store...

That's not good.... have a feeling a downgrade for the X5 to Solo's, so its on the same buses as the X6/X7, but X5 has USB and moving to Peterlee? 

X5 Citaro's to move Consett to replace 5481-5485, moving them back their previous role.... meaning the omnicities are in a open role until the Scania's can be withdrawn in June.
Edited 16 Apr 2019, 6:54 pm by Michael.

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm #136

(16 Apr 2019, 6:29 pm)Dan There may be a few surprises in store...

That's not good.... have a feeling a downgrade for the X5 to Solo's, so its on the same buses as the X6/X7, but X5 has USB and moving to Peterlee? 

X5 Citaro's to move Consett to replace 5481-5485, moving them back their previous role.... meaning the omnicities are in a open role until the Scania's can be withdrawn in June.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Jamie M

Unregistered

 
16 Apr 2019, 8:15 pm #137
(16 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm)Michael That's not good.... have a feeling a downgrade for the X5 to Solo's, so its on the same buses as the X6/X7, but X5 has USB and moving to Peterlee? 

X5 Citaro's to move Consett to replace 5481-5485, moving them back their previous role.... meaning the omnicities are in a open role until the Scania's can be withdrawn in June.

Musical buses, eh?
Jamie M
16 Apr 2019, 8:15 pm #137

(16 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm)Michael That's not good.... have a feeling a downgrade for the X5 to Solo's, so its on the same buses as the X6/X7, but X5 has USB and moving to Peterlee? 

X5 Citaro's to move Consett to replace 5481-5485, moving them back their previous role.... meaning the omnicities are in a open role until the Scania's can be withdrawn in June.

Musical buses, eh?

Michael



19,169
16 Apr 2019, 8:17 pm #138
(16 Apr 2019, 8:15 pm)Jamie M Musical buses, eh?


Would be nice, as long as they play decent music as they move around!!

Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
Michael
16 Apr 2019, 8:17 pm #138

(16 Apr 2019, 8:15 pm)Jamie M Musical buses, eh?


Would be nice, as long as they play decent music as they move around!!


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Malarkey



6,064
16 Apr 2019, 9:58 pm #139
(16 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm)Michael That's not good.... have a feeling a downgrade for the X5 to Solo's, so its on the same buses as the X6/X7, but X5 has USB and moving to Peterlee? 

X5 Citaro's to move Consett to replace 5481-5485, moving them back their previous role.... meaning the omnicities are in a open role until the Scania's can be withdrawn in June.

The X5 needs a full sized single decker with the amount of passengers using the service between Sunderland, Doxford International and Peterlee as I know from working up Doxy in the past it is busy in both directions throughout the day, I can't see it using Solo SR's.

I think depending on what's on order double decker wise and which services are inline for an upgrade we will see the Red Kite/Prince Bishops go to full double decker operation with the Streetlites going on the likes of the X30 at Stanley and the 6's at Riverside for example with the Omnicities moving into a spare capacity replacing the Solars.

The Solo SR's have to be moving on to a service where they'd be fit for purpose to have wifi, usb and nsa's to which I think the 19 at Percy Main would be a good shout.
Malarkey
16 Apr 2019, 9:58 pm #139

(16 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm)Michael That's not good.... have a feeling a downgrade for the X5 to Solo's, so its on the same buses as the X6/X7, but X5 has USB and moving to Peterlee? 

X5 Citaro's to move Consett to replace 5481-5485, moving them back their previous role.... meaning the omnicities are in a open role until the Scania's can be withdrawn in June.

The X5 needs a full sized single decker with the amount of passengers using the service between Sunderland, Doxford International and Peterlee as I know from working up Doxy in the past it is busy in both directions throughout the day, I can't see it using Solo SR's.

I think depending on what's on order double decker wise and which services are inline for an upgrade we will see the Red Kite/Prince Bishops go to full double decker operation with the Streetlites going on the likes of the X30 at Stanley and the 6's at Riverside for example with the Omnicities moving into a spare capacity replacing the Solars.

The Solo SR's have to be moving on to a service where they'd be fit for purpose to have wifi, usb and nsa's to which I think the 19 at Percy Main would be a good shout.

V514DFT



2,242
16 Apr 2019, 10:04 pm #140
Unless the Indigo North Tyne brand is being scrapped?

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
16 Apr 2019, 10:04 pm #140

Unless the Indigo North Tyne brand is being scrapped?


Kind Regards
Tez

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