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Michael



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18 Apr 2019, 9:29 am #161
(17 Apr 2019, 9:20 pm)Malarkey I could see a frequency increase on the 81/82/83 & 84 between Concord and Harraton to every 12 minutes with an interworking on the short boards at Concord with the 85/86.

The current 82/84 board would remain as it is between Birtley and Heworth.

Elsewhere in the Indigo Network I could see the upgraded spec of usb's on the 206/208 and 265 with them all going into Durham.

North Tyne I will stick with my theory of the 19 getting Solo SR's.

Are the services busy enough to allow a upgrade in frequency?
Edited 18 Apr 2019, 11:36 am by Michael.

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Michael
18 Apr 2019, 9:29 am #161

(17 Apr 2019, 9:20 pm)Malarkey I could see a frequency increase on the 81/82/83 & 84 between Concord and Harraton to every 12 minutes with an interworking on the short boards at Concord with the 85/86.

The current 82/84 board would remain as it is between Birtley and Heworth.

Elsewhere in the Indigo Network I could see the upgraded spec of usb's on the 206/208 and 265 with them all going into Durham.

North Tyne I will stick with my theory of the 19 getting Solo SR's.

Are the services busy enough to allow a upgrade in frequency?


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

V514DFT



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18 Apr 2019, 3:36 pm #162
(18 Apr 2019, 9:29 am)Michael Are the services busy enough to allow a upgrade in frequency?

19 becoming part of Indigo North Tyne maybe?,also why does the 40/41 NOT have any via points, could the short 40 not say Hadrian Park Via High Farm and Battle Hill whilst the 41 Wallsend Via Battle Hill and High Farm the long runs are kinda difficult to choose just 2 via points so i can understand those ones not having any

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Tez
V514DFT
18 Apr 2019, 3:36 pm #162

(18 Apr 2019, 9:29 am)Michael Are the services busy enough to allow a upgrade in frequency?

19 becoming part of Indigo North Tyne maybe?,also why does the 40/41 NOT have any via points, could the short 40 not say Hadrian Park Via High Farm and Battle Hill whilst the 41 Wallsend Via Battle Hill and High Farm the long runs are kinda difficult to choose just 2 via points so i can understand those ones not having any


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Tez

18 Apr 2019, 4:10 pm #163
6304 has lost its "Castles".


RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

RBZ 5459
18 Apr 2019, 4:10 pm #163

6304 has lost its "Castles".



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

Dan

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18,118
18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm #164
(18 Apr 2019, 4:10 pm)RBZ 5459 6304 has lost its "Castles".

It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.
Dan
18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm #164

(18 Apr 2019, 4:10 pm)RBZ 5459 6304 has lost its "Castles".

It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.

Michael



19,171
18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm #165
(18 Apr 2019, 3:36 pm)V514DFT 19 becoming part of Indigo North Tyne maybe?,also why does the 40/41 NOT have any via points, could the short 40 not say Hadrian Park Via High Farm and Battle Hill whilst the 41 Wallsend Via Battle Hill and High Farm the long runs are kinda difficult to choose just 2 via points so i can understand those ones not having any

Honestly wouldn't be surprised

(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Dan It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.


Trial bus for having nothing on the windows? Tongue
Edited 18 Apr 2019, 6:47 pm by Michael.

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Michael
18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm #165

(18 Apr 2019, 3:36 pm)V514DFT 19 becoming part of Indigo North Tyne maybe?,also why does the 40/41 NOT have any via points, could the short 40 not say Hadrian Park Via High Farm and Battle Hill whilst the 41 Wallsend Via Battle Hill and High Farm the long runs are kinda difficult to choose just 2 via points so i can understand those ones not having any

Honestly wouldn't be surprised

(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Dan It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.


Trial bus for having nothing on the windows? Tongue


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
18 Apr 2019, 4:18 pm #166
(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Michael Trail bus for having nothing on the windows? Tongue

Yep. The MD's views of vinyl on window have been made pretty clear on Social Media!
Dan
18 Apr 2019, 4:18 pm #166

(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Michael Trail bus for having nothing on the windows? Tongue

Yep. The MD's views of vinyl on window have been made pretty clear on Social Media!

Michael



19,171
18 Apr 2019, 4:22 pm #167
(18 Apr 2019, 4:18 pm)Dan Yep. The MD's views of vinyl on window have been made pretty clear on Social Media!

How many buses have got nothing on the windows though, seems daft to use 6304...................

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Michael
18 Apr 2019, 4:22 pm #167

(18 Apr 2019, 4:18 pm)Dan Yep. The MD's views of vinyl on window have been made pretty clear on Social Media!

How many buses have got nothing on the windows though, seems daft to use 6304...................


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

18 Apr 2019, 4:34 pm #168
(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Dan It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.

Looks better for but yes, could do with a polish! Repaint and rebrand in the near future then - can't see him sticking the vinyls back on!


RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

RBZ 5459
18 Apr 2019, 4:34 pm #168

(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Dan It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.

Looks better for but yes, could do with a polish! Repaint and rebrand in the near future then - can't see him sticking the vinyls back on!



RBZ5459 | flickr | THV

Dan

Site Administrator

18,118
18 Apr 2019, 4:46 pm #169
(18 Apr 2019, 4:34 pm)RBZ 5459 Looks better for but yes, could do with a polish! Repaint and rebrand in the near future then - can't see him sticking the vinyls back on!

Not sure it does look better for it up close..!

Personal preferences aside, vinyl on windows is a controversial subject, and I've certainly always said that The Castles Express stands out a country mile against Arriva buses whilst retaining the common link with the Angel (exactly the purpose it was intended to have!) Plenty of windows upstairs which don't have vinyl on, and having travelled on those buses many times, I've always thought that it looks worse on the outside than what it actually does from when you look from the inside. Aside from issues with vinyl on window, The Castles Express was also a great success story in the growth that it delivered against Pronto, and demonstrated partnerships with local stakeholders on that route.

No immediate plans for repaint or re-brand.
Dan
18 Apr 2019, 4:46 pm #169

(18 Apr 2019, 4:34 pm)RBZ 5459 Looks better for but yes, could do with a polish! Repaint and rebrand in the near future then - can't see him sticking the vinyls back on!

Not sure it does look better for it up close..!

Personal preferences aside, vinyl on windows is a controversial subject, and I've certainly always said that The Castles Express stands out a country mile against Arriva buses whilst retaining the common link with the Angel (exactly the purpose it was intended to have!) Plenty of windows upstairs which don't have vinyl on, and having travelled on those buses many times, I've always thought that it looks worse on the outside than what it actually does from when you look from the inside. Aside from issues with vinyl on window, The Castles Express was also a great success story in the growth that it delivered against Pronto, and demonstrated partnerships with local stakeholders on that route.

No immediate plans for repaint or re-brand.

18 Apr 2019, 5:06 pm #170
(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Dan It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.

Ive always thought the Castles express stood out and was one of the better designs, it looks bland now the castles have been removed. I suppose it probably wouldn't look too bad if they fitted advert frames to them if there was no plans to rebrand 6304.
Dans_bus_photos
18 Apr 2019, 5:06 pm #170

(18 Apr 2019, 4:15 pm)Dan It was done middle of last week.

Photo on Twitter below:
https://twitter.com/MartijnGNE/status/11...7321458688

None of the others will be done - it doesn't look the best up-close - 6304 was just the trial bus while it was already off service.

Ive always thought the Castles express stood out and was one of the better designs, it looks bland now the castles have been removed. I suppose it probably wouldn't look too bad if they fitted advert frames to them if there was no plans to rebrand 6304.

GNE6312



1,091
19 Apr 2019, 7:09 am #171
Will the 9 still be allocated black cats streetlites on bank holiday Monday?
Also on a sunday service do the streetlites go on set euro 6 boards or any boards?
GNE6312
19 Apr 2019, 7:09 am #171

Will the 9 still be allocated black cats streetlites on bank holiday Monday?
Also on a sunday service do the streetlites go on set euro 6 boards or any boards?

N1cholas



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19 Apr 2019, 8:03 am #172
(19 Apr 2019, 7:09 am)GNE6312 Will the 9 still be allocated black cats streetlites on bank holiday Monday?
Also on a sunday service do the streetlites go on set euro 6 boards or any boards?

Will the 9 still be allocated black cats streetlites on bank holiday Monday? Yes

Also on a sunday service do the streetlites go on set euro 6 boards or any boards? Get used on just about everything
N1cholas
19 Apr 2019, 8:03 am #172

(19 Apr 2019, 7:09 am)GNE6312 Will the 9 still be allocated black cats streetlites on bank holiday Monday?
Also on a sunday service do the streetlites go on set euro 6 boards or any boards?

Will the 9 still be allocated black cats streetlites on bank holiday Monday? Yes

Also on a sunday service do the streetlites go on set euro 6 boards or any boards? Get used on just about everything

JM03



505
20 Apr 2019, 1:29 am #173
Looks like indigo north tyneside is going. Just checked the GNE enthusiast area to fond 672 has been painted into 2019 livery. It has also been fitted with USB charging ports at Thornton bros too. Excited to see this bus in service
JM03
20 Apr 2019, 1:29 am #173

Looks like indigo north tyneside is going. Just checked the GNE enthusiast area to fond 672 has been painted into 2019 livery. It has also been fitted with USB charging ports at Thornton bros too. Excited to see this bus in service

S830OFT



1,395
20 Apr 2019, 9:28 am #174
Driver on 20 has said the X6/X7 will turn into the X20 on Burdon Road. Is this a suggestion Peterlee will loose these routes?


S830OFT
20 Apr 2019, 9:28 am #174

Driver on 20 has said the X6/X7 will turn into the X20 on Burdon Road. Is this a suggestion Peterlee will loose these routes?



N1cholas



243
20 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm #175
[quote="S830OFT" pid='228260' dateline='1555752482']
Driver on 20 has said the X6/X7 will turn into the X20 on Burdon Road. Is this a suggestion Peterlee will loose these routes?

correct, deptford will run these
N1cholas
20 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm #175

[quote="S830OFT" pid='228260' dateline='1555752482']
Driver on 20 has said the X6/X7 will turn into the X20 on Burdon Road. Is this a suggestion Peterlee will loose these routes?

correct, deptford will run these

Malarkey



6,064
20 Apr 2019, 10:46 pm #176
(20 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm)N1cholas [quote="S830OFT" pid='228260' dateline='1555752482']
Driver on 20 has said the X6/X7 will turn into the X20 on Burdon Road. Is this a suggestion Peterlee will loose these routes?

correct, deptford will run these

I think that would be quite poor in terms of reliability given how bad traffic can be in Durham at times, I would keep them as separate boards.
Malarkey
20 Apr 2019, 10:46 pm #176

(20 Apr 2019, 8:00 pm)N1cholas [quote="S830OFT" pid='228260' dateline='1555752482']
Driver on 20 has said the X6/X7 will turn into the X20 on Burdon Road. Is this a suggestion Peterlee will loose these routes?

correct, deptford will run these

I think that would be quite poor in terms of reliability given how bad traffic can be in Durham at times, I would keep them as separate boards.

N1cholas



243
21 Apr 2019, 7:05 am #177
(20 Apr 2019, 10:46 pm)Malarkey I think that would be quite poor in terms of reliability given how bad traffic can be in Durham at times, I would keep them as separate boards.

It all depends on how much layover they get at both ends and park lane where driver changeovers are likely to happen, dont forget the X20 does not serve east and west rainton so has a quick run up the A690 to rainton bridge and does not go through gilesgate where there is generally congestion
N1cholas
21 Apr 2019, 7:05 am #177

(20 Apr 2019, 10:46 pm)Malarkey I think that would be quite poor in terms of reliability given how bad traffic can be in Durham at times, I would keep them as separate boards.

It all depends on how much layover they get at both ends and park lane where driver changeovers are likely to happen, dont forget the X20 does not serve east and west rainton so has a quick run up the A690 to rainton bridge and does not go through gilesgate where there is generally congestion

Michael



19,171
22 Apr 2019, 10:54 am #178
When are we expecting the next batch of Omnidekka's up from Brighton?

(20 Apr 2019, 10:46 pm)Malarkey I think that would be quite poor in terms of reliability given how bad traffic can be in Durham at times, I would keep them as separate boards.

Yup, sounds like a risky move, if they're to interwork. 

The X20 only needs 3 buses, so just have Streetlites on it, the overall PVR should be 19 for both the 20 and X20 - 1 down from currently.
Edited 22 Apr 2019, 11:19 am by Michael.

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Michael
22 Apr 2019, 10:54 am #178

When are we expecting the next batch of Omnidekka's up from Brighton?


(20 Apr 2019, 10:46 pm)Malarkey I think that would be quite poor in terms of reliability given how bad traffic can be in Durham at times, I would keep them as separate boards.

Yup, sounds like a risky move, if they're to interwork. 

The X20 only needs 3 buses, so just have Streetlites on it, the overall PVR should be 19 for both the 20 and X20 - 1 down from currently.


Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.

Stanleyone

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22 Apr 2019, 11:40 am #179
(22 Apr 2019, 10:54 am)Michael When are we expecting the next batch of Omnidekka's up from Brighton?


Yup, sounds like a risky move, if they're to interwork. 

The X20 only needs 3 buses, so just have Streetlites on it, the overall PVR should be 19 for both the 20 and X20 - 1 down from currently.

As far as i’m aware the X6/X7 will interwork with X20, can’t imagine the X20 being operated by solos, so maybe some shuffling around until more streetlites become available.
Stanleyone
22 Apr 2019, 11:40 am #179

(22 Apr 2019, 10:54 am)Michael When are we expecting the next batch of Omnidekka's up from Brighton?


Yup, sounds like a risky move, if they're to interwork. 

The X20 only needs 3 buses, so just have Streetlites on it, the overall PVR should be 19 for both the 20 and X20 - 1 down from currently.

As far as i’m aware the X6/X7 will interwork with X20, can’t imagine the X20 being operated by solos, so maybe some shuffling around until more streetlites become available.

N1cholas



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22 Apr 2019, 11:55 am #180
(22 Apr 2019, 11:40 am)Stanleyone As far as i’m aware the X6/X7 will interwork with X20, can’t imagine the X20 being operated by solos, so maybe some shuffling around until more streetlites become available.

Don't imagine the reality..........
N1cholas
22 Apr 2019, 11:55 am #180

(22 Apr 2019, 11:40 am)Stanleyone As far as i’m aware the X6/X7 will interwork with X20, can’t imagine the X20 being operated by solos, so maybe some shuffling around until more streetlites become available.

Don't imagine the reality..........

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