(26 Apr 2019, 10:11 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote PB0003954/789 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland to Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland via University of Sunderland
Service number: 700 (701)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 02 Jun 2019
(15 May 2019, 6:14 pm)Michael wrote Will they not keep it as additional bus like now?
(15 May 2019, 6:25 pm)JP6004 wrote PVR was 15 + 2 spare when new. When reduced to 12min frequency with PVR of 14, 6084 was sent to Riverside. If PVR reducing again down to 13 then yes they could send 6100 to Percy Main allowing 2 spares to be in place both for the C&C and the 56
(15 May 2019, 6:25 pm)JP6004 wrote PVR was 15 + 2 spare when new. When reduced to 12min frequency with PVR of 14, 6084 was sent to Riverside. If PVR reducing again down to 13 then yes they could send 6100 to Percy Main allowing 2 spares to be in place both for the C&C and the 56
(16 May 2019, 11:45 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote (Snip)
PB0003954/1088 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Central Station to Newcastle Central Station
Service number: Toon Tour ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019
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(16 May 2019, 11:45 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote PB0003954/810 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newbrough, Church Lane to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: X84 (X85)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019
PB0003954/1089 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Rainton Meadows Arena
Service number: 501 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019
PB0003954/1088 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Central Station to Newcastle Central Station
Service number: Toon Tour ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019
PB0003954/1085 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Durham Rail Station
Service number: 500 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019
PB0003954/1084 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Newcastle, Eldon Square
Service number: 21 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019
(17 May 2019, 6:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote With the cancellation of the 20a, reduction in frequency of the 20 and comparably reduced frequency of the X20 (in addition to the smaller vehicles being introduced), it is going to be interesting times for passengers on the route.
Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices?
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth?
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?
Then there's the interworking pattern at Sunderland.
Regardless of any potential delays, I'm very surprised that this interworking and the connections opened up as a result of them, hasn't been encouraged nor mentioned (as far as I can see) in any promotional literature.
Funky colours and added features are all good and well. It goes without saying, that the fares charged can have the ultimate impact. Particularly with those passengers who don't have to rely on the bus.
(17 May 2019, 7:09 pm)JP6004 wrote Reduction in frequency of the X20? There was only a few peak workings. Now there X20 every 30mins plus 5 20s an hour. That's 7 an hour between Durham and Sunderland during the day
(17 May 2019, 6:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices?
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth?
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?
(17 May 2019, 7:41 pm)Adrian wrote I would say I travel to Sunderland less these days, and a big part of that is because I have to get a two zone ticket, whereas I can reasonably get to Newcastle and the Metrocentre. What has Sunderland got to offer that Newcastle and the Metrocentre doesn't, which would warrant me wanting to pay more to go there?
I think the changes to the 20/X20 are largely positive, but the peak loadings on those X20s make me a bit nervous! I've seen them every day for the past 5/6 years, and I just cannot see them not struggling with loadings. Especially if the 20 prior to it goes missing.
(17 May 2019, 7:22 pm)Michael wrote Wonder where the spare Streetlites from the 20/20A are going then?
None of the new timetables show a service being upgraded to Streetlites.....
(18 May 2019, 6:36 am)Dan wrote The bus is right for the 64/95, the features aren't.
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(17 May 2019, 6:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote With the cancellation of the 20a, reduction in frequency of the 20 and comparably reduced frequency of the X20 (in addition to the smaller vehicles being introduced), it is going to be interesting times for passengers on the route.I wonder if they'll drop the price of the X21 from Bishop to Tindale. Arriva only charge £1.40 and GNE charge £1.50 (well, they did on the 18 so I assume it'll be the same).
Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices?
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth?
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?
Then there's the interworking pattern at Sunderland.
Regardless of any potential delays, I'm very surprised that this interworking and the connections opened up as a result of them, hasn't been encouraged nor mentioned (as far as I can see) in any promotional literature.
Funky colours and added features are all good and well. It goes without saying, that the fares charged can have the ultimate impact. Particularly with those passengers who don't have to rely on the bus.
(17 May 2019, 7:38 pm)Andreos1 wrote Thats why I said 'comparable'.
The 'new' X20 is every 30mins.
The 20a was every 20.
So on the common sections of route, there is a comparable reduction in frequency.
(18 May 2019, 9:37 am)JP6004 wrote The 35 will be diverted via dairy lane and Rainton bridge every 30mins increasing the service to every 15mins in that area opposed to every 20mins.
(18 May 2019, 1:10 pm)Andreos1 wrote Brilliant.
It still doesn't alter the fact there's a comparable drop in frequency between the 20a and X20 though.
Even if you include the 35, you've the 36 being cancelled and the 71 not going along Dairy Lane.
So still, a comparable drop in frequency.
Fewer seats ph, fewer vehicles ph.
Now:
* 4 - 6ph.
* 20a/x20 - 3ph
* 36 - 2ph
Total 11 buses ph, using a mix of full size and midi.
Buses to Durham, South Shields, Chester, Heworth and Castletown.
Future:
* 4 - 6ph
* X20 - 2ph
* 35 - 2ph
Total 10 buses ph, using a mix of full size and mini.
Buses to Durham, Sunderland, Boldon Cinema, Heworth and Low Moorsley.
