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Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2

RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
PB0003954/789 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland to Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland via University of Sunderland
Service number: 700 (701)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 02 Jun 2019
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
On the NEXUS timetable, they have a 8 due from Hylton retail park at 18:12pm, due to arrive at Park Lane at 18:23pm BUT the GNE timetable doesn't have this journey.... which one is correct?

(26 Apr 2019, 10:11 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote PB0003954/789 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland to Park Lane Interchange, Sunderland via University of Sunderland
Service number: 700 (701)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 02 Jun 2019

what is the change?

Edit: Never mind, its the summer timetable being introduced
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(15 May 2019, 4:05 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote Looking at the new 56 timetable it appears the PVR is going to be dropped by 1, could this mean 6100 will transfer to Percy Main to be the Cobalt & Coast spare?

Didn't notice that, interesting!
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(15 May 2019, 4:05 pm)Dans_bus_photos wrote Looking at the new 56 timetable it appears the PVR is going to be dropped by 1, could this mean 6100 will transfer to Percy Main to be the Cobalt & Coast spare?

Will they not keep it as additional bus like now?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(15 May 2019, 6:14 pm)Michael wrote Will they not keep it as additional bus like now?

PVR was 15 + 2 spare when new. When reduced to 12min frequency with PVR of 14, 6084 was sent to Riverside. If PVR reducing again down to 13 then yes they could send 6100 to Percy Main allowing 2 spares to be in place both for the C&C and the 56
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(15 May 2019, 6:25 pm)JP6004 wrote PVR was 15 + 2 spare when new. When reduced to 12min frequency with PVR of 14, 6084 was sent to Riverside. If PVR reducing again down to 13 then yes they could send 6100 to Percy Main allowing 2 spares to be in place both for the C&C and the 56

why not send 6086 to percy main so north tyneside cam have a poppy bus
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(15 May 2019, 6:35 pm)GNE6312 wrote why not send 6086 to percy main so north tyneside cam have a poppy bus

They have the fusiliers bus. Plus keeps fleet numbers in sequence
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(15 May 2019, 6:25 pm)JP6004 wrote PVR was 15 + 2 spare when new. When reduced to 12min frequency with PVR of 14, 6084 was sent to Riverside. If PVR reducing again down to 13 then yes they could send 6100 to Percy Main allowing 2 spares to be in place both for the C&C and the 56

Cobalt & Coast would only have 1x spare still as the PVR increased to 17x back in March (10x 309 and 7x 310)
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
PB0003954/810 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newbrough, Church Lane to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: X84 (X85)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1089 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Rainton Meadows Arena
Service number: 501 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1088 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Central Station to Newcastle Central Station
Service number: Toon Tour ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1085 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Durham Rail Station
Service number: 500 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1084 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Newcastle, Eldon Square
Service number: 21 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(16 May 2019, 11:45 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote (Snip)

PB0003954/1088 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Central Station to Newcastle Central Station
Service number: Toon Tour ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019

(Snip)

Have we possibly discovered 6000's home for the summer .....?  Wink
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
PB0003954/559 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Hexham Bus Station to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: 10 (10A, 10B, 10X)
Service type: Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 27 May 2019

PB0003954/1087 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: South Hylton Metro to Heworth Metro via Sunderland
Service number: 901 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 19 May 2019

PB0003954/1086 Registered (Short notice)
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: St James Metro to Longbenton Metro via North Shields, Monkseaton
Service number: 900 (901, 902)
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 18 May 2019
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(16 May 2019, 11:45 am)GuyParkRoyal wrote PB0003954/810 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newbrough, Church Lane to Newcastle, Eldon Square Bus Station
Service number: X84 (X85)
Service type: Hail & Ride, Limited Stop, Normal Stopping
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1089 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Rainton Meadows Arena
Service number: 501 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1088 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Newcastle Central Station to Newcastle Central Station
Service number: Toon Tour ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 29 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1085 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Durham Rail Station
Service number: 500 ()
Service type: Limited Stop
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019

PB0003954/1084 Registered
GO NORTH EAST LIMITED
Route: Chester le Street Riverside to Newcastle, Eldon Square
Service number: 21 ()
Service type: Normal Stopping
Effective date: 28 Jun 2019

Toon Tour: Operates Saturdays and Sundays only from Saturday 29th June 2019. Between Saturday 20th July and Sunday 1st September, operates daily

10/10A/10B - Vary timetable 

X84/X85: Monday to Saturday  (except public holiday) - No more information atm.
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
With the cancellation of the 20a, reduction in frequency of the 20 and comparably reduced frequency of the X20 (in addition to the smaller vehicles being introduced), it is going to be interesting times for passengers on the route.

Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices? 
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth? 
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?

Then there's the interworking pattern at Sunderland. 
Regardless of any potential delays, I'm very surprised that this interworking and the connections opened up as a result of them, hasn't been encouraged nor mentioned (as far as I can see) in any promotional literature.

Funky colours and added features are all good and well. It goes without saying, that the fares charged can have the ultimate impact. Particularly with those passengers who don't have to rely on the bus.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 6:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote With the cancellation of the 20a, reduction in frequency of the 20 and comparably reduced frequency of the X20 (in addition to the smaller vehicles being introduced), it is going to be interesting times for passengers on the route.

Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices? 
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth? 
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?

Then there's the interworking pattern at Sunderland. 
Regardless of any potential delays, I'm very surprised that this interworking and the connections opened up as a result of them, hasn't been encouraged nor mentioned (as far as I can see) in any promotional literature.

Funky colours and added features are all good and well. It goes without saying, that the fares charged can have the ultimate impact. Particularly with those passengers who don't have to rely on the bus.

Reduction in frequency of the X20? There was only a few peak workings. Now there X20 every 30mins plus 5 20s an hour. That's 7 an hour between Durham and Sunderland during the day
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
Wonder where the spare Streetlites from the 20/20A are going then?

None of the new timetables show a service being upgraded to Streetlites.....

Also which Solo's are going on the 33/33A?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 7:09 pm)JP6004 wrote Reduction in frequency of the X20? There was only a few peak workings. Now there X20 every 30mins plus 5 20s an hour. That's 7 an hour between Durham and Sunderland during the day

Thats why I said 'comparable'.

The 'new' X20 is every 30mins.
The 20a was every 20.

So on the common sections of route, there is a comparable reduction in frequency.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 6:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices? 
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth? 
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?

I would say I travel to Sunderland less these days, and a big part of that is because I have to get a two zone ticket, whereas I can reasonably get to Newcastle and the Metrocentre. What has Sunderland got to offer that Newcastle and the Metrocentre doesn't, which would warrant me wanting to pay more to go there?

I think the changes to the 20/X20 are largely positive, but the peak loadings on those X20s make me a bit nervous! I've seen them every day for the past 5/6 years, and I just cannot see them not struggling with loadings. Especially if the 20 prior to it goes missing.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 7:41 pm)Adrian wrote I would say I travel to Sunderland less these days, and a big part of that is because I have to get a two zone ticket, whereas I can reasonably get to Newcastle and the Metrocentre. What has Sunderland got to offer that Newcastle and the Metrocentre doesn't, which would warrant me wanting to pay more to go there?

I think the changes to the 20/X20 are largely positive, but the peak loadings on those X20s make me a bit nervous! I've seen them every day for the past 5/6 years, and I just cannot see them not struggling with loadings. Especially if the 20 prior to it goes missing.

Some peak time journeys will still be operated by streetlites (supposedly)
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 7:22 pm)Michael wrote Wonder where the spare Streetlites from the 20/20A are going then?

None of the new timetables show a service being upgraded to Streetlites.....

Only thing which can be linked to Streetlites would be the 64/95 timetable which shows all the relevant feature symbols, but that wouldn’t have been my first choice.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 8:50 pm)S813 FVK wrote Only thing which can be linked to Streetlites would be the 64/95 timetable which shows all the relevant feature symbols, but that wouldn’t have been my first choice.
The bus is right for the 64/95, the features aren't.

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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 May 2019, 6:36 am)Dan wrote The bus is right for the 64/95, the features aren't.

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Never mind, read it wrong! 


Can't seem to delete posts?


Edit:


Will Deptford be running the 18:12pm service 8 from  Hylton Retail Park to Park Lane, if so what will be allocated?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 6:26 pm)Andreos1 wrote With the cancellation of the 20a, reduction in frequency of the 20 and comparably reduced frequency of the X20 (in addition to the smaller vehicles being introduced), it is going to be interesting times for passengers on the route.

Appreciate the 'spin' behind the Kia Picanto Solo's and marketing that aims to encourage growth, but what about the prices?
I've been quite vocal in the past about the fares and indirectly, they've influenced my travel patterns to the extent I've not used the purple Streetlites to/from Durham for quite some time.
How many others have been put off by the prices? 
Is a funky new colour scheme and a smaller bus enough to attract growth? 
Will the Kia Picanto Solo's be able to cope with loadings during the same peaks the purple Streetlites struggled with?

Then there's the interworking pattern at Sunderland. 
Regardless of any potential delays, I'm very surprised that this interworking and the connections opened up as a result of them, hasn't been encouraged nor mentioned (as far as I can see) in any promotional literature.

Funky colours and added features are all good and well. It goes without saying, that the fares charged can have the ultimate impact. Particularly with those passengers who don't have to rely on the bus.
I wonder if they'll drop the price of the X21 from Bishop to Tindale. Arriva only charge £1.40 and GNE charge £1.50 (well, they did on the 18 so I assume it'll be the same).
I know if I didn't have my monthly pass I'd probably still go for the Arriva to save that 10p
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(17 May 2019, 7:38 pm)Andreos1 wrote Thats why I said 'comparable'.

The 'new' X20 is every 30mins.
The 20a was every 20.

So on the common sections of route, there is a comparable reduction in frequency.

The 35 will be diverted via dairy lane and Rainton bridge every 30mins increasing the service to every 15mins in that area opposed to every 20mins.
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RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 May 2019, 8:30 am)Michael wrote Will Deptford be running the 18:12pm service 8 from  Hylton Retail Park to Park Lane, if so what will be allocated?

Yes, they'll be running that journey. Off memory I think it's a Streetlite.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 May 2019, 12:28 pm)Dan wrote Yes, they'll be running that journey. Off memory I think it's a Streetlite.

Yes that trip will be operated by a Black Cats Streetlite as it runs off a 39A from Doxford International - Park Lane.
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 May 2019, 9:37 am)JP6004 wrote The 35 will be diverted via dairy lane and Rainton bridge every 30mins increasing the service to every 15mins in that area opposed to every 20mins.

Brilliant. 
It still doesn't alter the fact there's a comparable drop in frequency between the 20a and X20 though. 

Even if you include the 35, you've the 36 being cancelled and the 71 not going along Dairy Lane.

So still, a comparable drop in frequency. 
Fewer seats ph, fewer vehicles ph. 

Now:
* 4 - 6ph.
* 20a/x20 - 3ph
* 36 - 2ph
Total 11 buses ph, using a mix of full size and midi. 
Buses to Durham, South Shields, Chester, Heworth and Castletown. 

Future:
* 4 - 6ph
* X20 - 2ph
* 35 - 2ph
Total 10 buses ph, using a mix of full size and mini. 
Buses to Durham, Sunderland, Boldon Cinema, Heworth and Low Moorsley.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Go North East: Upcoming Service Changes v2
(18 May 2019, 1:10 pm)Andreos1 wrote Brilliant. 
It still doesn't alter the fact there's a comparable drop in frequency between the 20a and X20 though. 

Even if you include the 35, you've the 36 being cancelled and the 71 not going along Dairy Lane.

So still, a comparable drop in frequency. 
Fewer seats ph, fewer vehicles ph. 

Now:
* 4 - 6ph.
* 20a/x20 - 3ph
* 36 - 2ph
Total 11 buses ph, using a mix of full size and midi. 
Buses to Durham, South Shields, Chester, Heworth and Castletown. 

Future:
* 4 - 6ph
* X20 - 2ph
* 35 - 2ph
Total 10 buses ph, using a mix of full size and mini. 
Buses to Durham, Sunderland, Boldon Cinema, Heworth and Low Moorsley.

Well a reduction of 1 bus per hour is shocking along this corridor. I dont know how people will cope!