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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - June 2019

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - June 2019

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - June 2019

(31 May 2019, 10:54 am)cbma06 wrote Yep, was 53/54


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Thought so,i seen a "mock up" on google of a bus in Gypsy Queen livery which had 14 on its display,why was it changed form 53/54,was it so it could be re-used for the Saltwell Loop,might of been a little before my time

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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
Does anyone have any idea of times for the demonstrator on the 97. Leaving gateshead for metrocentre

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(01 Jun 2019, 7:59 am)Swiny1 wrote Does anyone have any idea of times for the demonstrator on the 97. Leaving gateshead for metrocentre

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According to the app, it’s currently working the 0843 from the Metrocentre to Newcastle.

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(31 May 2019, 10:04 pm)N1cholas wrote


No not now that is why they have Peterlee for middlesbourgh as it gets around EU regs



That's for the B5s yes. But the B9s still have them

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(01 Jun 2019, 10:36 am)JP6004 wrote


That's for the B5s yes. But the B9s still have them


That doesn’t matter - the X9/X10 are registered in two parts. Therefore, leaving Newcastle buses should be showing either ‘Peterlee then Middlesbrough’ or ‘Dalton Park then Middlesbrough’ and change to ‘Middlesbrough’ at either Peterlee or Dalton Park. And likewise on the return trip.

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(01 Jun 2019, 11:02 am)Kuyoyo wrote


That doesn’t matter - the X9/X10 are registered in two parts. Therefore, leaving Newcastle buses should be showing either ‘Peterlee then Middlesbrough’ or ‘Dalton Park then Middlesbrough’ and change to ‘Middlesbrough’ at either Peterlee or Dalton Park. And likewise on the return trip.



Ah didn't realise

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(01 Jun 2019, 11:20 am)JP6004 wrote


Ah didn't realise



No idea whether they're digital or not, but there's the calibration to take in to account in additon to the driver having the disc or card fitted too.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(01 Jun 2019, 12:04 pm)Andreos1 wrote


No idea whether they're digital or not, but there's the calibration to take in to account in additon to the driver having the disc or card fitted too.


X9/X10 isn’t on Tachographs anymore anyway - when they split the registration, that removed the need for tachograph. Which opened up a wider range of vehicles that can be used on the route, as appose to vehicles with tachographs.

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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(01 Jun 2019, 12:04 pm)Andreos1 wrote


No idea whether they're digital or not, but there's the calibration to take in to account in additon to the driver having the disc or card fitted too.



Solars and omnidekkas are analogue.


Omnicities, B9s, B5s and mercs are digital.


Nobody's quite sure where or what the tacho situation is with the streetlites. Nowhere obvious!


There's also the age consideration too, drivers must be 21 to use tachographs.

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

What is the actual exact rule as to which routes are required to use tachographs? For example how come the x21 isn't registered as two routes when the journey time is longer than the x9/x10?


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(02 Jun 2019, 9:57 am)big mac wrote

What is the actual exact rule as to which routes are required to use tachographs? For example how come the x21 isn't registered as two routes when the journey time is longer than the x9/x10?




If the route is over 50kms (around 31 mile) end to end, then a tachograph needs to be used.  As with X9/X10 and many other operators, splitting the route into 2 (or more in the case of some routes), brings the mileage down, so a tachograph is not required.

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
(02 Jun 2019, 10:13 am)citaro5284 wrote


If the route is over 50kms (around 31 mile) end to end, then a tachograph needs to be used.  As with X9/X10 and many other operators, splitting the route into 2 (or more in the case of some routes), brings the mileage down, so a tachograph is not required.

I'm surprised that loophole hasn't been closed
Jamie M
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(02 Jun 2019, 10:15 am)streetdeckfan wrote I'm surprised that loophole hasn't been closed


There's national examples, but arriva demonstrated in the past you can have different route numbers and maintain a service.


The only real way to close the loophole is to set restrictions on through-services so that everybody would have to get off and back on to continue. But that just seems a waste of time.


I wouldn't imagine local authorities want to clamp down on it either, they provide useful connections to further places.

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(02 Jun 2019, 10:18 am)Jamie M wrote

There's national examples, but arriva demonstrated in the past you can have different route numbers and maintain a service.


The only real way to close the loophole is to set restrictions on through-services so that everybody would have to get off and back on to continue. But that just seems a waste of time.



Looking at the TImetable, I think the X74 from Glasgow to Dumfries is split 3 times with a note at the bottom of the timetable saying -  To comply with Department of Transport guidance, this service connects at Moffat, Abington and Lesmahagow.
The connection is guaranteed and passengers may remain on the vehicle.



https://tiscon-maps-stagecoachbus.s3.amazonaws.com/Timetables/West%20Scotland/X74%20February%202019%20(web).pdf


RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
(20 May 2019, 4:52 pm)Dan wrote 5204 and 5205 will be retained in the fleet this week to cover additional vehicle requirements at Percy Main for the cruise ship shuttles in operation tomorrow and Thursday, alongside 4978/80/81 which were already planned to be retained this week for this purpose.


Have any of these been withdrawn yet?
Ooo Friend, Bus Friend.
RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(02 Jun 2019, 2:58 pm)Michael wrote Have any of these been withdrawn yet?


The B7RLE's have went to Go North West as Driver Trainers, I would think the L94's will be retained for a little while longer with the amount of repaints still outstanding at Percy Main.


Anyone know what the plan is for the Ex Thames Travel Solo now at Percy Main, will the Black Cats examples be painted into Indigo or will they all be painted into the Corporate Livery?

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
(02 Jun 2019, 3:02 pm)Malarkey wrote


The B7RLE's have went to Go North West as Driver Trainers, I would think the L94's will be retained for a little while longer with the amount of repaints still outstanding at Percy Main.


Anyone know what the plan is for the Ex Thames Travel Solo now at Percy Main, will the Black Cats examples be painted into Indigo or will they all be painted into the Corporate Livery?


I'm sure it was confirmed that those 3 won't head down to Manchester? only 4979 and 4982
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019

(02 Jun 2019, 3:02 pm)Malarkey wrote

Anyone know what the plan is for the Ex Thames Travel Solo now at Percy Main, will the Black Cats examples be painted into Indigo or will they all be painted into the Corporate Livery?


I would think they'll be gaining 'Little Coasters' livery eventually - seeing how the North Tyneside 'indigo' is being phased out for 'Little Coasters'. That plus Dan did say around the time of the changes that the older Solos are intended for the 11, with the SRs on 40/41/42/42A.

RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
Red kite b9 broke down at the Metrocentre

It’s 6118


6119 passing metro n.i.s. Could it be replacing it?
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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
(02 Jun 2019, 9:15 pm)L469 YVK wrote Are GNE's float vans (used to change drivers) leased or owned?
Leased.

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RE: Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - May 2019
(03 Jun 2019, 7:26 am)kernow dave wrote Is there a list of the service vehicles?
Of all the company vans?

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