Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
Go North East: Service Suggestions v2
(22 Jul 2019, 6:28 pm)V514DFT The service you are describing from Blyth to Sunderland was the original 310 (not the 310 that operates now) with the original 319 operating Sunderland-Cramlington that was axed in 2007 so i imagine the 310 went along with it,but there was a 319 that operated Jarrow-Percy Main in 2010 but was axed,if i remember right there was a 9 and 9A,one went to Wallsend and the other went to North Shields and both operated to Sunderland,but dont know how long that lasted but i also remember a 59 operating Wallsend-Jarrow in 2010 then Wallsend lost its link through the tunnel completely
Probably best for the Bygone Era.
But the original 310 Blyth to Sunderland actually went a different route between Jarrow and Sunderland. It went via Brockley Whins. Biddick Hall, Boldon and North Sunderland Estates. Being replaced by 538 and 310 was altered to same route as 319.
The original 319 did not actually do Cramlington to Sunderland but did in fact do Cramlington to Lukes Lane Estate. So Hebburn Lukes Lane albeit years later always seem to the "Thorn in the Side" that takes routes that were doing well elsewhere.
(22 Jul 2019, 6:28 pm)V514DFT The service you are describing from Blyth to Sunderland was the original 310 (not the 310 that operates now) with the original 319 operating Sunderland-Cramlington that was axed in 2007 so i imagine the 310 went along with it,but there was a 319 that operated Jarrow-Percy Main in 2010 but was axed,if i remember right there was a 9 and 9A,one went to Wallsend and the other went to North Shields and both operated to Sunderland,but dont know how long that lasted but i also remember a 59 operating Wallsend-Jarrow in 2010 then Wallsend lost its link through the tunnel completely
Probably best for the Bygone Era.
But the original 310 Blyth to Sunderland actually went a different route between Jarrow and Sunderland. It went via Brockley Whins. Biddick Hall, Boldon and North Sunderland Estates. Being replaced by 538 and 310 was altered to same route as 319.
The original 319 did not actually do Cramlington to Sunderland but did in fact do Cramlington to Lukes Lane Estate. So Hebburn Lukes Lane albeit years later always seem to the "Thorn in the Side" that takes routes that were doing well elsewhere.
(22 Jul 2019, 6:28 pm)V514DFT The service you are describing from Blyth to Sunderland was the original 310 (not the 310 that operates now) with the original 319 operating Sunderland-Cramlington that was axed in 2007 so i imagine the 310 went along with it,but there was a 319 that operated Jarrow-Percy Main in 2010 but was axed,if i remember right there was a 9 and 9A,one went to Wallsend and the other went to North Shields and both operated to Sunderland,but dont know how long that lasted but i also remember a 59 operating Wallsend-Jarrow in 2010 then Wallsend lost its link through the tunnel completely
You're quite right. Also when the 59 operated Wallsend to Sunderland, the Shields route was numbered 59A.
(22 Jul 2019, 6:28 pm)V514DFT The service you are describing from Blyth to Sunderland was the original 310 (not the 310 that operates now) with the original 319 operating Sunderland-Cramlington that was axed in 2007 so i imagine the 310 went along with it,but there was a 319 that operated Jarrow-Percy Main in 2010 but was axed,if i remember right there was a 9 and 9A,one went to Wallsend and the other went to North Shields and both operated to Sunderland,but dont know how long that lasted but i also remember a 59 operating Wallsend-Jarrow in 2010 then Wallsend lost its link through the tunnel completely
You're quite right. Also when the 59 operated Wallsend to Sunderland, the Shields route was numbered 59A.
(28 Jul 2019, 10:02 am)GNE6312 New suggestion to cut down delays on all express services from Newcastle(X1/X9/X10/X21 only):
All express services revised NOT to serve Gateshead interchange with all services serving Gateshead high street instead
X9/X10 driver switch overs all revised to take place at newcastle
Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of an Interchange? I'm still mad Stagecoach stop putting the X34 through there.
(28 Jul 2019, 10:02 am)GNE6312 New suggestion to cut down delays on all express services from Newcastle(X1/X9/X10/X21 only):
All express services revised NOT to serve Gateshead interchange with all services serving Gateshead high street instead
X9/X10 driver switch overs all revised to take place at newcastle
Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of an Interchange? I'm still mad Stagecoach stop putting the X34 through there.
(28 Jul 2019, 10:02 am)GNE6312 New suggestion to cut down delays on all express services from Newcastle(X1/X9/X10/X21 only):
All express services revised NOT to serve Gateshead interchange with all services serving Gateshead high street instead
X9/X10 driver switch overs all revised to take place at newcastle
Its a shame the different transports don't intigrate.
It would be so much easier for the majority of services coming from that direction to terminate at Gateshead interchange and then using the Metro to get into Newcastle. I tried it the other day, bar the cost, its so much more efficient and would make a alot of difference to time keeping and congestion.
(28 Jul 2019, 10:02 am)GNE6312 New suggestion to cut down delays on all express services from Newcastle(X1/X9/X10/X21 only):
All express services revised NOT to serve Gateshead interchange with all services serving Gateshead high street instead
X9/X10 driver switch overs all revised to take place at newcastle
Its a shame the different transports don't intigrate.
It would be so much easier for the majority of services coming from that direction to terminate at Gateshead interchange and then using the Metro to get into Newcastle. I tried it the other day, bar the cost, its so much more efficient and would make a alot of difference to time keeping and congestion.
(28 Jul 2019, 11:11 am)Arcticrossy92
Its a shame the different transports don't intigrate.
It would be so much easier for the majority of services coming from that direction to terminate at Gateshead interchange and then using the Metro to get into Newcastle. I tried it the other day, bar the cost, its so much more efficient and would make a alot of difference to time keeping and congestion.
Just like they used to prior to de-regulation.
And you can get to parts of the town, that you can't (or is a chew on) by bus.
(28 Jul 2019, 11:11 am)Arcticrossy92
Its a shame the different transports don't intigrate.
It would be so much easier for the majority of services coming from that direction to terminate at Gateshead interchange and then using the Metro to get into Newcastle. I tried it the other day, bar the cost, its so much more efficient and would make a alot of difference to time keeping and congestion.
Just like they used to prior to de-regulation.
And you can get to parts of the town, that you can't (or is a chew on) by bus.
(28 Jul 2019, 11:11 am)Arcticrossy92
Its a shame the different transports don't intigrate.
It would be so much easier for the majority of services coming from that direction to terminate at Gateshead interchange and then using the Metro to get into Newcastle. I tried it the other day, bar the cost, its so much more efficient and would make a alot of difference to time keeping and congestion.
Absolute pita for anyone needing to use the inadequate lifts at metro stations, though.
(28 Jul 2019, 11:11 am)Arcticrossy92
Its a shame the different transports don't intigrate.
It would be so much easier for the majority of services coming from that direction to terminate at Gateshead interchange and then using the Metro to get into Newcastle. I tried it the other day, bar the cost, its so much more efficient and would make a alot of difference to time keeping and congestion.
Absolute pita for anyone needing to use the inadequate lifts at metro stations, though.
(28 Jul 2019, 11:49 am)BusLoverMum
Absolute pita for anyone needing to use the inadequate lifts at metro stations, though.
I think that aside, it makes complete sense from a 'public transport' point of view. Keeps buses on time, more reliable services, quicker access - get the lifts sorted ... and its all good!
Like anything, I'm sure there are negatives, but the sitation at the moment of 5 Double decker buses crossing the tyne bridge half full every few minutes is just madness
(28 Jul 2019, 11:49 am)BusLoverMum
Absolute pita for anyone needing to use the inadequate lifts at metro stations, though.
I think that aside, it makes complete sense from a 'public transport' point of view. Keeps buses on time, more reliable services, quicker access - get the lifts sorted ... and its all good!
Like anything, I'm sure there are negatives, but the sitation at the moment of 5 Double decker buses crossing the tyne bridge half full every few minutes is just madness
(29 Jul 2019, 3:59 pm)GNE631287
Springwell village
Washington
Concord
Sulgrave
Sunderland highway
North Hylton
Hylton castle
Southwick
Fullwell
Roker
Roker beach
Sunderland
Every 30 mins
This service will be allocated 6001-7/6049-55 when they leave the red arrows
Why would this need all of them to do this?
And the B9s won’t be leaving the red arrows and springwell and other parts are already served in numbers.
(29 Jul 2019, 3:59 pm)GNE631287
Springwell village
Washington
Concord
Sulgrave
Sunderland highway
North Hylton
Hylton castle
Southwick
Fullwell
Roker
Roker beach
Sunderland
Every 30 mins
This service will be allocated 6001-7/6049-55 when they leave the red arrows
Why would this need all of them to do this?
And the B9s won’t be leaving the red arrows and springwell and other parts are already served in numbers.
New X-lines service suggestion
X56
Newcastle Market Street
Gateshead interchange
QE hospital
Wreckenton High street
Springwell village
Washington Galleries
Sunderland interchange
This service will only serve the stops shown above
Every 15 minutes
Approx journey time 59 minutes (including a 5 minutes layover at Washington Galleries)
PVR 9
Buses will have a 15 min layover at park lane
This service will be allocated to 6149-6157 with 6158-61 being spare
All buses will be refurbished to include NSAs, E-leather seats, tables, USB charging points & feet seats
New X-lines service suggestion
X56
Newcastle Market Street
Gateshead interchange
QE hospital
Wreckenton High street
Springwell village
Washington Galleries
Sunderland interchange
This service will only serve the stops shown above
Every 15 minutes
Approx journey time 59 minutes (including a 5 minutes layover at Washington Galleries)
PVR 9
Buses will have a 15 min layover at park lane
This service will be allocated to 6149-6157 with 6158-61 being spare
All buses will be refurbished to include NSAs, E-leather seats, tables, USB charging points & feet seats
Haven't done one of these for a while but:
Sunderland Winter Gardens - Park Lane - Sunderland Hospital - Pennywell (Nookside and Pennywell Road only) - Grindon Mill - Hastings Hill - Heworth - Gateshead - Newcastle
Times would be: Hourly - Monday to Saturday - Between 6am and 6pm
Buses: Solo's - branded as X-Lines
1A: Reduced to every 60 minutes, this is to allow the introduction of service 1B to daily.
1B: Revised to operate daily at a every 60 minute frequency, this allows Cragside Gardens to have direct access to MetroCentre, Newcastle & Beyond...
49/49A: Both reduced to every 30 minutes, although with service 49C this will continue the up to every 10 minutes frequency.
49C: This service will operate every 30 minutes daily.
64: Withdrawn, replaced by service 49C.
95: Withdrawn, replaced by service 1B.
30 - Sunderland City Centre - Southwick - Witherwack - Boldon - Whiteleas - West Harton - South Tyneside District Hospital - Chichester - Westoe - South Shields
31 - South Shields - Tyne Dock - Jarrow - York Avenue - Hedworth - Fellgate - Boldon - Town End Farm - Castletown - Southwick - Sunderland City Centre
These new services will provide new cross city links every 15 minutes combined Monday to Saturday, Hourly on a Sunday/Bank Holidays partially replacing the current services 5/35.
32/33/X33 - Sunderland Docks (32) - Sunderland City Centre (X33) - Royal Hospital (33) - Durham Road (32) - Barnes Park (32/33/X33) - Silksworth (32/33/X33) - Gilley Law (32/33) - Farringdon (32/33) - East Herrington (32/33) - Doxford International (X33)- Newbottle (32/33) - Houghton-le-Spring (32/33/X33) - Hetton Downs (33) - Hetton-le-Hole (33/X33) - Low Moorsley (33) - Easington Lane (X33) - South Hetton (X33) - Easington Village (X33) - Peterlee (X33) - Horden (X33) - Blackhall (X33) - Hartlepool (X33)
This new set of services will see current services 33/33A/35 & 55 merge together to provide a combined frequency of every 10 minutes Monday to Saturdays and every 20 minutes on a Sunday/Bank Holidays.
309:
- Evening departures from Newcastle Mon-Sat
19:25, 19:55, 20:25, 21:05, 21:55, 22:55(WBay)
- Tied in with other changes; after approximately 6.30pm, services 309 & 310 would interwork until approximately 9.30pm with later journeys running standalone.
- Sunday daytime journeys standalone and revised as follows
Blyth: xx:06 / xx:36
Newcastle Arr: xx:15 / xx/45
Newcastle Dep: xx:23 / xx:53
Blyth: xx:27 / xx:57
310:
- Evening departures from Newcastle Mon-Sat
19:10, 19:40, 20:10, 20:45, 21:25(via HP), 22:25(via HP), 23:30(via HP)
- Tied in with other changes; after approximately 6.30pm, services 309 & 310 would interwork until approximately 9.30pm with later journeys running standalone.
- Sunday daytime journeys standalone and revised as follows with all journeys serving Hadrian Park. Service 57 would operate Newcastle to Wardley only.
North Shields: xx:08 / xx:38
Newcastle Arr: xx:00 / xx:30
Newcastle Dep: xx:08 / xx:38
North Shields Arr: xx:56 / xx:26
In addition to the above, the 9th board on a Sunday would be operated by Riverside Depot operating the following journeys on service 310
Newcastle: 10:08, 12:08, 14:08, 16:08
North Shields: 11:08, 13:08, 15:08, 17:06
This would provide the extra vehicle for the Sunday PVR increase without excessive idling times in North Shields as well as not requiring extra resources at Percy Main Depot. The Riverside board would most likely only require 2x drivers as well. The extra resource at Riverside would be available as a result of the Sunday 57 PVR reducing from 8x to 5x.
(11 Aug 2019, 10:57 pm)L469 YVK In addition to the above, the 9th board on a Sunday would be operated by Riverside Depot operating the following journeys on service 310
Newcastle: 10:08, 12:08, 14:08, 16:08
North Shields: 11:08, 13:08, 15:08, 17:06
This would provide the extra vehicle for the Sunday PVR increase without excessive idling times in North Shields as well as not requiring extra resources at Percy Main Depot. The Riverside board would most likely only require 2x drivers as well. The extra resource at Riverside would be available as a result of the Sunday 57 PVR reducing from 8x to 5x.
What would operate these boards, TVTs or corp Gemini 1s?
(11 Aug 2019, 10:57 pm)L469 YVK In addition to the above, the 9th board on a Sunday would be operated by Riverside Depot operating the following journeys on service 310
Newcastle: 10:08, 12:08, 14:08, 16:08
North Shields: 11:08, 13:08, 15:08, 17:06
This would provide the extra vehicle for the Sunday PVR increase without excessive idling times in North Shields as well as not requiring extra resources at Percy Main Depot. The Riverside board would most likely only require 2x drivers as well. The extra resource at Riverside would be available as a result of the Sunday 57 PVR reducing from 8x to 5x.
What would operate these boards, TVTs or corp Gemini 1s?
