(22 Nov 2019, 9:12 am)garym67 The X30 is more frequent now but it takes much longer than it used to in the past, the X30 used to be a genuine express serving only Stanley, Sunniside, Lobley Hill, Gateshead and Newcastle and took 30 minutes, not it takes at least 40. Accepting of course there is more traffic now so it gets stuck more often, but observing all stops and going via Whickham makes it anything but express. It's still very convenient and easy if you are just going to Newcastle, but the extra time becomes a pain if you then need to get another bus, rush hour journeys often take 50+ minutes in my experience, albeit as an infrequent user.
(22 Nov 2019, 9:12 am)garym67 The X30 is more frequent now but it takes much longer than it used to in the past, the X30 used to be a genuine express serving only Stanley, Sunniside, Lobley Hill, Gateshead and Newcastle and took 30 minutes, not it takes at least 40. Accepting of course there is more traffic now so it gets stuck more often, but observing all stops and going via Whickham makes it anything but express. It's still very convenient and easy if you are just going to Newcastle, but the extra time becomes a pain if you then need to get another bus, rush hour journeys often take 50+ minutes in my experience, albeit as an infrequent user.
(22 Nov 2019, 9:25 am)streetdeckfan Exactly that. I mean the X30 is still pretty quick, it only takes about 10-15 minutes longer than the car assuming it has a clear run, and the car follows the speed limits
My main gripe though is with the X45/46/47. Having them run limited stop for the short section between MetroCentre and Newcastle is not enough to call it an express route in my eyes.
And no matter how you put it, a journey with 71 stops (in the case of the X21) is not express!
(22 Nov 2019, 9:25 am)streetdeckfan Exactly that. I mean the X30 is still pretty quick, it only takes about 10-15 minutes longer than the car assuming it has a clear run, and the car follows the speed limits
My main gripe though is with the X45/46/47. Having them run limited stop for the short section between MetroCentre and Newcastle is not enough to call it an express route in my eyes.
And no matter how you put it, a journey with 71 stops (in the case of the X21) is not express!
The thing is, what is being proposed nationwide, is totally different to the proposal in Manchester and what we saw under the QCS proposal.
Any suggestions we see now, are clearly under the auspices of a tory government and their ideology.
You mention the out of town shopping, Sunday shopping and other elements in your post, yet fail to mention the lack of progress (locally at least) in countering those changes and enabling passengers region wide, to take advantage of those social changes whilst using public transport.
For all the back slapping and self congratulations there may be, I don't think the industry hasn't adapted or improved as much as it thinks it has.
(22 Nov 2019, 10:29 am)Andreos1 The thing is, what is being proposed nationwide, is totally different to the proposal in Manchester and what we saw under the QCS proposal.
Any suggestions we see now, are clearly under the auspices of a tory government and their ideology.
You mention the out of town shopping, Sunday shopping and other elements in your post, yet fail to mention the lack of progress (locally at least) in countering those changes and enabling passengers region wide, to take advantage of those social changes whilst using public transport.
For all the back slapping and self congratulations there may be, I don't think the industry hasn't adapted or improved as much as it thinks it has.
(22 Nov 2019, 10:29 am)Andreos1 The thing is, what is being proposed nationwide, is totally different to the proposal in Manchester and what we saw under the QCS proposal.
Any suggestions we see now, are clearly under the auspices of a tory government and their ideology.
You mention the out of town shopping, Sunday shopping and other elements in your post, yet fail to mention the lack of progress (locally at least) in countering those changes and enabling passengers region wide, to take advantage of those social changes whilst using public transport.
For all the back slapping and self congratulations there may be, I don't think the industry hasn't adapted or improved as much as it thinks it has.
(22 Nov 2019, 11:31 am)streetdeckfan Labour have given absolutely no detail in how they're going to do it so how can you say it's totally different to the proposal in Manchester?
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(22 Nov 2019, 11:31 am)streetdeckfan Labour have given absolutely no detail in how they're going to do it so how can you say it's totally different to the proposal in Manchester?
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Can we not put this politics issue to the appropriate political thread on this forum, also never believe what labour or any other says to the run up to the elections there are just trying to buy your votes and not go through what there stated in the run up to the election, the older generation will know all these cons but the younger generation are so naive in what there here from the campaigns
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(21 Nov 2019, 10:05 pm)deanmachine They do at Middlesbrough, or at least they did when I worked at Riverside in the summer.
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Go North East 9077 / YX19 ONU by kieron mathews, on Flickr
but difficult to track as it shows on bus times but not on the GNE app (21 Nov 2019, 10:05 pm)deanmachine They do at Middlesbrough, or at least they did when I worked at Riverside in the summer.
Go North East 9077 / YX19 ONU by kieron mathews, on Flickr but difficult to track as it shows on bus times but not on the GNE app
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Go North East have confirmed the Scania Farewell event will take place at Saltmeadows Depot from 11am on Sunday 15th December
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Wonder if the 11/63 plates get the same treatment inside , be good to See a citaro with this interior. Also 6099 is at Deptford if not said in new livery moving to Percy main end of month
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(22 Nov 2019, 7:34 pm)ryan.c.lawrence.5 Wonder if the 11/63 plates get the same treatment inside , be good to See a citaro with this interior. Also 6099 is at Deptford if not said in new livery moving to Percy main end of month
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(22 Nov 2019, 7:34 pm)ryan.c.lawrence.5 Wonder if the 11/63 plates get the same treatment inside , be good to See a citaro with this interior. Also 6099 is at Deptford if not said in new livery moving to Percy main end of month
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(22 Nov 2019, 7:45 pm)Michael Wonder if all of them will get refurbished?... do hope they sort the fleet numbers out, so if they brand them, they'll be the same batch of numbers, so for example - all the Quaylink would be 8315-8338.Don't think all are getting done , does anyone know if 8319 has got USB's or Next stops installed too ?
Looks like the Hybrid Versa has gone, can't see it on the fleet allocation/list.
(22 Nov 2019, 7:45 pm)Michael Wonder if all of them will get refurbished?... do hope they sort the fleet numbers out, so if they brand them, they'll be the same batch of numbers, so for example - all the Quaylink would be 8315-8338.Don't think all are getting done , does anyone know if 8319 has got USB's or Next stops installed too ?
Looks like the Hybrid Versa has gone, can't see it on the fleet allocation/list.
(21 Nov 2019, 11:39 pm)Storx Everyone always mentions pricing and buses for the reason for the reduction in bus use but is it just me who thinks the bus network is just outdated completely.
Most routes have barely changed since the 80's however where people actually want to be have massively and unless you drive some of them are just impossible to get to. Some examples:
Metro Centre - Bar the 6/7 there's absolutely no service from the whole of the West End of Newcastle unless you travel the wrong direction and back on yourself.
Silverlink - No service at all bar the 19/22. 306/308 too far and the A19 roundabout isn't a walk you want to do.
Team Valley - No service bar the Loop
Arnison Centre - No service to the North or West.
Durham Dragonville - No service to North, East or South.
Teeside Park - One bus every 30 minutes, miles from the shops.
Cleveland Retail / Tesco Eston - One bus every 30 minutes.
Yet places like North Shields, Durham City Centre, South Shields, Stockton etc have loads of buses going into them from all over where sadly people don't really want to be nowadays as there's nothing left anymore. It's no wonder bus usage is decreasing.
Hmm. The 50 and 14 serve the arnison centre. The loop is pretty frequent to Team Valley, which is on the way to nowhere.
(21 Nov 2019, 11:39 pm)Storx Everyone always mentions pricing and buses for the reason for the reduction in bus use but is it just me who thinks the bus network is just outdated completely.
Most routes have barely changed since the 80's however where people actually want to be have massively and unless you drive some of them are just impossible to get to. Some examples:
Metro Centre - Bar the 6/7 there's absolutely no service from the whole of the West End of Newcastle unless you travel the wrong direction and back on yourself.
Silverlink - No service at all bar the 19/22. 306/308 too far and the A19 roundabout isn't a walk you want to do.
Team Valley - No service bar the Loop
Arnison Centre - No service to the North or West.
Durham Dragonville - No service to North, East or South.
Teeside Park - One bus every 30 minutes, miles from the shops.
Cleveland Retail / Tesco Eston - One bus every 30 minutes.
Yet places like North Shields, Durham City Centre, South Shields, Stockton etc have loads of buses going into them from all over where sadly people don't really want to be nowadays as there's nothing left anymore. It's no wonder bus usage is decreasing.
Hmm. The 50 and 14 serve the arnison centre. The loop is pretty frequent to Team Valley, which is on the way to nowhere.
Hmm. The 50 and 14 serve the arnison centre. The loop is pretty frequent to Team Valley, which is on the way to nowhere.
Hmm. The 50 and 14 serve the arnison centre. The loop is pretty frequent to Team Valley, which is on the way to nowhere.
(22 Nov 2019, 6:38 pm)TEN 6083 Managed to catch it today
(22 Nov 2019, 6:38 pm)TEN 6083 Managed to catch it today
