(27 Nov 2019, 9:31 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I would, I have the same complaint with all low height vehicles! 

I actually quite like the E400 as a vehicle, the issue is that they would be running low height vehicles for no reason. If the E400 was available with head room I wouldn't be opposed to travelling on them

The other issue is even downstairs they feel quite claustrophobic, the seats are very close to the wall so my shoulder is rubbing against it when I sit properly on the seat, if I sit so I have proper shoulder room, I'm basically in the middle of the seats. That isn't an issue I have with the Streetdecks

X30 has a low bridge on route so needs a low height decker

Can't find the "Bus Incidents" thread so

Overturned car on Chester Road after collision with bus
Reports of multiple fire engines and ambulances as overturned car is spotted on Chester Road.

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/over...us-1326317



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(27 Nov 2019, 10:18 pm)Ds1197 wrote X30 has a low bridge on route so needs a low height decker

I know, which is why I have no issue with them on the X30. As much as I hate the look of the E400, I think it looks infinitely better than the low height Streetdeck!

My issue is where companies buy low height buses then run them on routes with no height restrictions, all that does is make the experience worse for the passenger!

(27 Nov 2019, 10:23 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I know, which is why I have no issue with them on the X30. As much as I hate the look of the E400, I think it looks infinitely better than the low height Streetdeck!

My issue is where companies buy low height buses then run them on routes with no height restrictions, all that does is make the experience worse for the passenger!

Companies buy low height buses for flexibility. And it doesn't really bother most people who are tall, you spend 99% of your time sitting down whilst upstairs!

(27 Nov 2019, 10:23 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I know, which is why I have no issue with them on the X30. As much as I hate the look of the E400, I think it looks infinitely better than the low height Streetdeck!

My issue is where companies buy low height buses then run them on routes with no height restrictions, all that does is make the experience worse for the passenger!

Some companies run low height deckers for convinience.

Stagecoach for example have said it makes it easier to transfer vehicles to other fleets around the country.

Oxford Bus Company specified low height for operational convinience meaning they can easily transfer buses to other routes that go under the Railway Bridge at the station.

Scottish Bus Companies went for lowheight depots as a large number of depots in certain areas couldn't fit full height vehicles like Leyland Atlanteans, Volvo Ailsas, then later on Volvo Citybuses and Leyland Lions.

(27 Nov 2019, 10:22 pm)Michael wrote Can't find the "Bus Incidents" thread so

Overturned car on Chester Road after collision with bus
Reports of multiple fire engines and ambulances as overturned car is spotted on Chester Road.

https://www.sunderlandecho.com/news/over...us-1326317



Black Cats Streetlite involved

The bus was not involved, the accident happened in front of the bus and the it was unable to pass.


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(27 Nov 2019, 11:07 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Companies buy low height buses for flexibility. And it doesn't really bother most people who are tall, you spend 99% of your time sitting down whilst upstairs!

Literally every time I've been on a low height bus, I've hit my head at the top of the stairs, and when standing up from the seat. At least some other operators put a warning at the top of the stairs to mind your head

(28 Nov 2019, 1:10 am)Milkytdi123 wrote The bus was not involved, the accident happened in front of the bus and the it was unable to pass.


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Ah right thanks, according to some people, the bus was involved, my bad!

Christmas & New Year Buses


https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/christmas/...DL1mcXvkfM

(28 Nov 2019, 1:00 pm)Michael wrote Christmas & New Year Buses


https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/christmas/...DL1mcXvkfM

Will the X66 have doubledeckers allocated on boxingday this year?

(28 Nov 2019, 1:20 am)streetdeckfan wrote Literally every time I've been on a low height bus, I've hit my head at the top of the stairs, and when standing up from the seat. At least some other operators put a warning at the top of the stairs to mind your head

You'd probably complaint about the sign anyway, regardless of what GNE do or buy, you complaint about it.  Non stop!

(28 Nov 2019, 5:44 pm)gordondack wrote You'd probably complaint about the sign anyway, regardless of what GNE do or buy, you complaint about it.  Non stop!

maybe they should use open tops and provide tall people with a brolly if it rains! oh and I am 6 foot 3

Seeing an X30 and X21 together looked rather smart. Great to have a common, recognisable identity again between different routes.

Anyone know if there will be an age restriction at the solar event with it being at Saltmeadows road depot

Anyone know if there will be an age restriction at the solar event with it being at Saltmeadows road depot

(28 Nov 2019, 8:03 pm)GNE6312 wrote Anyone know if there will be an age restriction at the solar event with it being at Saltmeadows road depot

I don't think it will be age restricted, I expect it would say if there was a restriction.

With only the 310 operating, will Percy Main depot remain closed this boxing day with Riverside running the 310 using either a TVT branded Gemini 2 or Green Arrow E200MMC?

(28 Nov 2019, 10:27 pm)L469 YVK wrote With only the 310 operating, will Percy Main depot remain closed this boxing day with Riverside running the 310 using either a TVT branded Gemini 2 or Green Arrow E200MMC?

Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.

Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.

(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey wrote Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.

Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.

As I said in stagecoach thread it's not the 21st century!

(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey wrote Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.

Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.

When the 309 operated on Boxing Day in the past, it never ran through Cobalt, using the 308 route between Whitley Bay and Newcastle.
More importantly, what GNE have also done is to totally neglect the North Shields and Whitley Bay areas. Hopefully Arriva or Nexus will step in.

(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey wrote Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.

Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.

Could the Metro to Northumberland Park not shave some time off your walk?

(28 Nov 2019, 11:47 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Could the Metro to Northumberland Park not shave some time off your walk?

 It would depend on where he lives

(28 Nov 2019, 11:08 pm)Malarkey wrote Absolute joke that the 309 is not running on boxing day, how do Go North East expect those such as myself to get to work on the Cobalt with no buses running.

Guess i'll have to walk from the Jolly Bowman into work which is just shy of a half hour walk according to Google Maps.

Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing day

(29 Nov 2019, 7:13 am)GNE6312 wrote Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing day

Why would anybody want to do that?!

Plus, there's no reason why boxing day shouldn't be just treated like any other bank holiday, I know a lot of people who want to work boxing day, either because of the bonus or to get away from the family!

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(29 Nov 2019, 10:04 am)streetdeckfan wrote Why would anybody want to do that?!

Plus, there's no reason why boxing day shouldn't be just treated like any other bank holiday, I know a lot of people who want to work boxing day, either because of the bonus or to get away from the family!

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I certainly wouldn't work Boxing Day... and I have bigger things than buses to work with! 

I believe that Boxing Day is still a voluntary thing, and nobody is hauled into work against their will, so GNE can only work with how many drivers are willing to work. And going off the service level, I think that should answer your question as to who wants to spend time off work...!

(29 Nov 2019, 12:04 pm)omnicity4659 wrote I certainly wouldn't work Boxing Day... and I have bigger things than buses to work with! 

I believe that Boxing Day is still a voluntary thing, and nobody is hauled into work against their will, so GNE can only work with how many drivers are willing to work. And going off the service level, I think that should answer your question as to who wants to spend time off work...!

Isn't it time that drivers started to be viewed along the lines of retail staff and other members of the service sector? 
Not meaning to be derogatory to any sector, but the difference between a person on a till in a shop or a bar and a person on a ticketer in a bus, can essentially be split down in to one difference and that is one is driving a vehicle. 

The long gone ambassador/Gtom said (and I agree), is that a driver is working within the service industry. I agree.
Other members of the service sector (bar staff, retail etc) are working. Why not bus drivers?

(29 Nov 2019, 1:48 pm)Andreos1 wrote Isn't it time that drivers started to be viewed along the lines of retail staff and other members of the service sector? 
Not meaning to be derogatory to any sector, but the difference between a person on a till in a shop or a bar and a person on a ticketer in a bus, can essentially be split down in to one difference and that is one is driving a vehicle. 

The long gone ambassador/Gtom said (and I agree), is that a driver is working within the service industry. I agree.
Other members of the service sector (bar staff, retail etc) are working. Why not bus drivers?

That's something we can both agree on.

Bus drivers aren't special, if anything they should have less of a right to a day off because without them other people who rely on the bus can't get to work, see family, get food from the shops

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(29 Nov 2019, 1:55 pm)streetdeckfan wrote That's something we can both agree on.

Bus drivers aren't special, if anything they should have less of a right to a day off because without them other people who rely on the bus can't get to work, see family, get food from the shops

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You are taking the p**s, maybe you should get yourself a licence and try driving a bus then come back with stupid comments if you believe in what you write. Never heard so much rubbish in your recent posts.

(29 Nov 2019, 7:13 am)GNE6312 wrote Prehaps because the drivers actually have families and actually want to spend time with them over Christmas. Anyway arriva usually have the 308 & 306 running on boxing day

The 306 hasn't operated on Boxing Day for several years. Up to last year from the Coast there were the 308, 309 and 310.

(29 Nov 2019, 2:27 pm)Stanleyone wrote You are taking the p**s, maybe you should get yourself a licence and try driving a bus then come back with stupid comments if you believe in what you write. Never heard so much rubbish in your recent posts.

I stand by my comment. In my eyes, a bus driver is no different from a cashier in a supermarket, except instead of scanning items, you drive a bus.
Both are relatively unskilled jobs (in that anyone could do the job with a bit of training, you don't need to be highly qualified), both earn around the same, both require good people skills, both 'sit around' all day, and people rely on both to 'survive'.



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