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(22 Apr 2019, 12:11 pm)JM03 wrote It would make more sense to stop the bus at key stops along the route as this seems relatively high stopping e.g.- not letting the bus stop until Battle Hill/Coast way shopping centre
(22 Apr 2019, 2:12 pm)V514DFT wrote It would only stop once per place thats mentionedNo, I mean they're some relatively useless spots i see there which basically makes it just the 306 and 308. Jesmond Corner house and Cradlewell seem usless stopping points in my eyes and it would be much better suited to go non-stop for a while on the Coast Road such as the Battle Hill/High Farm area where demand will be higher for an express bus directly into Newcastle.
(28 Apr 2019, 3:49 pm)S830OFT wrote X14: Reduced to operate Every 2 Hours, combining with service X15 to form an hourly service between Longframlington and Newcastle.
Reduced frequency to Rothbury.
X15: Newcastle - Regent Centre - Stannington Village - Morpeth - Northgate - A697 - Longhorsley - Longframlington - Edlingham - Alnwick.
Connections from Stannington to Newcastle.
Unnecessary and pointless diversion to serve Edlingham.
X16: Withdrawn, replaced by extended journeys on service X43.
Kirkhill loses its direct service to Newcastle.
X17: This service will replace service X15 with all Journeys operating from Newcastle to Berwick with an 2 hour frequency.
Increased frequency to Berwick.
Reduced frequency to Felton and Shilbottle.
X18: Due to constant unreliability, journeys from Berwick/Seahouses will terminate at Alnwick, these trips will still continue to Morpeth and Newcastle, although will do so as service X15. The Alnwick/Amble section to Newcastle will be revised to operate as service X19 with an Every 2 Hours frequency.
X19: This service will replace the X18 between Newcastle and Alnwick with a revised Every 2 Hours frequency, although extra buses between Newcastle and Morpeth, and Widdrington and Alnwick operate on other MAX services.
Splitting the service is pointless and is a very dangerous thing to do. Through connections to and from the southern part of the coast will be lost, which is where the tourist market is. Interworking with another MAX service at Newcastle may be better to give slack for a larger layover at Berwick.
The 2-hourly frequency south of Alnwick will shatter the two buses an hour between Widdrington and Alnwick, and will also sever connectivity from Morpeth and Newcastle.
X20: Sunday journeys will operate on this service between Ashington and Alnwick up to Every 2 Hours, additionaly serving Cresswell and Widdrington Estate, therefore allowing service 1 to only operate between Wansbeck Hospital and Blyth on Sundays.
Journeys to the "CELL" communities of Cresswell, Ellington and Lynemouth on route 1 are reliant on the core Blyth to Ashington to part subsidise the additional bus with the rest coming from the extension to Cresswell and Widdrington. Using additional resources to set up the X20 service will make the lifeline service to CELL unprofitable and the service will be lost.
X43: Journeys to Morpeth will be revised to operate Every 30 Minutes Mon - Sat, and hourly Sundays. This service will be strictly single decker operated for journeys to Kirkhill due to the narrow road out of Morpeth. Additionally this service will not observe stops between Gosforth and Newcastle, with these stops being served by the 43.
Pointless frequency increase to what is basically a token service to Red House Farm and Stobhill. Arriva run the 43 up to Morpeth to serve RHF to ensure that they didn't lose a bus service altogether.
Services X14 and X15 will both combine to provide an hourly bus service between Newcastle and Longframlington offering new vital links for Stannington to Newcastle, Morpeth, Rothbury and Alnwick.
Longframlington to Newcastle had an hourly bus (with some gaps) anyway.
Service X15 will also offer a faster alternative for journeys to Alnwick from Morpeth with journey times estimated at 40 minutes.
Pointless as you've just lost half the passengers who'd want Felton and Shilbottle.
Service X16 will be withdrawn with journeys replaced by service X43.
Kirkhill loses direct bus to Newcastle.
Service X17 will replace the current service X15 with a frequency of up to Every 2 Hours, although will offer additional journeys at Peak times between Newcastle and Alnwick.
Frequency to Shilbottle and Felton halved.
Services X14/15/17/19 will combine to offer a direct bus up to Every 30 minutes between Newcastle and Morpeth, although additional buses to Newcastle will continue on service 43.
Turn up and go frequency of every 15 minutes gone, and halved to every half hour. Disaster.
Service 43/X43: These services will both operate Every 30 minutes, combining to continue the Every 15 minutes frequency between Cramlington and Newcastle.
X43 is pointless.
(13 Aug 2019, 9:58 pm)S830OFT wrote 5/5A/X5: These services will be withdrawn, and replaced with services 65/X65.
62: This service will additionaly serve Ings Farm, aswell as continue to New Marske. This service will retain it's every 30 minutes frequency, and as a result of this change service 62A will be withdrawn. Evening and Sunday journeys will operate up to every 60 minutes
Route Map (Middlesbrough - North Ormesby - Grangetown - Dormanstown - Redcar - Ings Farm - Marske - New Marske)
63: No changes
64: This service will continue to operate up to every 30 minutes, although will no longer serve Ings Farm. Instead this service will extend to Loftus. As a result of this change, residents of Loftus and surrounding areas will have access to 3x buses an hour to Saltburn and Redcar. Additionaly this service will serve Marske Estate in both directions replacing this section of service 81.
Route Map (Middlesbrough - South Bank - Eston - Grangetown - Dormanstown - Redcar - Marske Estate - Marske - Saltburn - Brotton - Carlin How - Loftus - Easington)
64A: No changes
65: This service will replace services 5/5A/X5 between Middlesbrough and Loftus, operating with a frequency of up to every 30 minutes.
Route Map (Middlesbrough - All Stops - Ormesby - Guisborough - Skelton - Loftus - Easington)
81: This service will be revised to operate every 30 minutes between Redcar and Guisborough, extending to Stokesley every 60 minutes. Additionaly this service will no longer serve Marske Estate.
X3/X3A/X4: These services will be withdrawn, and replaced with a more comprehensive version of services, these being services X62/X63/X64/X65 which will offer new links, aswell as an increase in frequency when combined with local stopping services.
X62: This service will replace service X3 retaining the current frequency.
Route Map (Middlesbrough - Coatham - Redcar - Marske - Saltburn - Skelton - Lingdale)
X63: This service will replace service X3A with it's current frequency.
Route Map ( Middlesbrough - Coatham - Redcar - Marske - Saltburn - Skelton Asda)
X64: This service will replace service X4, although will operate with a revised frequency of up to every 60 minutes, although additional buses operate on services X62/X63/X65.
Route Map (Middlesbrough - Coatham - Redcar - Marske - Saltburn - Brotton - Carlin Howl - Loftus - Easington - Staithes - Sandsend - Whitby)
X65: This service will replace services 5/5A/X4/X5, opening up improved connections to Staithes and Sandsend from Guisborough and Ormesby, without the need to travel via Whitby.
This service will operate with a frequency of up to every 60 minutes, combining with service X64 to continue the every 30 minutes frequency between Loftus and Whitby. This service will follow the X93 section of route between Middlesbrough and Guisborough.
Route Map (Middlesbrough - Ormesby - Non-Stop - Guisborough - Skelton - Loftus - Easington - Staithes - Sandsend - Whitby)
X93: This service will see a reduction in summer journeys commencing at Middlesbrough, with some of these journeys commencing at Guisborough. This will provide reassurance to passengers, as on a regular basis passengers are refused travel if the single decker vehicles are full to capacity.
Additionaly passengers at Middlesbrough have the option to use either services X64 or X65 to Whitby, aswell as Ormesby having access to service X65 which also operates to Whitby.
(22 Aug 2019, 7:41 pm)Ryland wrote </p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p><br></p><p>Maybe adding an additional service between Whitby to redcar 88 or 89 serving Whitby, sandsends, staithes, loftus, saltburn marske estate, new marske, redcar Aldi then down west dyke road terminating at redcar clock </p><p>
(20 Aug 2019, 3:40 pm)S830OFT wrote Suggestion for an improvement to Sunday services...
Durham:
Sapphire 6: This service will be introduced to operate Every 30 minutes, this will offer more travel options for passengers between Cockfield, Bishop Auckland & Durham.
Sapphire 7: This service will be introduced to operate Every 30 minutes, this will offer more travel options for passengers between Darlington, Newton Aycliffe, Ferryhill & Durham.
Sapphire 22: Sunday daytime journeys will no longer operate to Easington Collirey, with this section being covered by Sapphire 23. Although will additionaly serve Pennine Drive on Sunday's only.
Sapphire 23: This service will be introduced to operate on Sundays up to every 60 minutes, it will work alongside service 22 & 24 to provide a bus up to every 30 minutes between Peterlee and Sunderland or Hartlepool.
Sapphire 24: This service will be slightly retimed, this will facilitate the introduction of service 23 on Sundays, aswell as ensuring services can combine to provide a bus every 30 minutes.
The inter-working pattern will be similar to the triangle drivers follow on the weekday rota, with drivers doing one of each service.
This charge will see Peterlee receive buses up to every 30 minutes to Sunderland, Hartlepool & Durham.
Service 64: This service will be reduced to operate up to every 60 minutes, with all journeys operating Cross-City to both Sherburn & Arnison Centre. The journeys lost will be replaced by an extended X12.
MAX X12: Sunday journeys will extend to Arnison Centre, this will allow passengers from Teeside & County Durham areas to access the University Hospital without changing buses, aswell open up new employment & leisure opportunities at Arnison Centre. This service will retain it's up to every 60 minutes frequency, although will combine with service 64 to continue the up to every 30 minutes frequency between Arnison Centre and Durham.
Darlington:
Service X21: This service will no longer serve Pennine Drive in Peterlee, with this section being replaced by Sapphire 22, this will help ensure journey times are decreased for long distance travellers.
MAX X66: This service will no longer serve Hartburn, although will remain operating up to every 60 minutes.
MAX X67: This service will be introduced to operate on Sunday's up to every 60 minutes, combining with service X66 to offer buses up to every 30 minutes between Darlington, Stockton & Middlesbrough.
Service X75: This service will be introduced to operate up to 60 minutes, this will offer additional buses between Darlington and Barnard Castle.
(08 Sep 2019, 4:20 pm)S830OFT wrote Some suggestions for Arriva services in the North East:
MAX X1: This service will be extended to Stanhope up to every 60 minutes Monday to Saturday.
This extension will open up more travel opportunities for those who live in or visit Stanhope, aswell as allow those who usually travel on Weardale, to have a variety of choice, and to be able to purchase more affordable saver tickets, which will allow passengers from Stanhope to access the regional network of services provided by Arriva to visit the likes of; Newcastle, Durham and many more well known, and even undiscovered destinations the North East has to offer.
Route Map (Darlington - Shildon - Bishop Auckland - Crook - Tow Law - Wolsinghan - Frosterley - Stanhope)
Estimated Journey Time: 113 Minutes
Sapphire 6: This service will be extended to Barnard Castle on a hourly basis, although will be reduced to every 15 minutes between Durham and West Auckland, with a bus to Cockfield every 30 minutes.
This change will improve punctuality, with improved connections to Barnard Castle. Additionally a significant reduction in journey times for passengers who would otherwise have to use MAX services X75/X76 from Darlington, or other operator services, which don't offer a wide range of modern features on-board their vehicles.
Route Map (Durham - Croxdale - Spennymoor - Bishop Auckland - West Auckland - Cockfield - Staindrop - Barnard Castle)
Estimated Journey Time: 99 Minutes
8: This service will be extended to Durham from Spennymoor via Croxdale & Durham University. The frequency will remain up to every 60 minutes, although if passenger numbers increase the service will be increased in frequency.
This change will benefit residents of Kirk Merrington who will be able to have access to a daily direct service to Durham, without the need to take service 56 for their journey, aswell as provide additional buses between Durham, Spennymoor, Ferryhill & Darlington alongside Sapphire services.
Route Map (Darlington - North Road - Aycliffe Village - Newton Aycliffe - Chilton - Ferryhill - Kirk Merrington - Spennymoor - Croxdale - Durham University - Durham)
Estimated Journey Time: 97 Minutes
8A: This service will be withdrawn, although passengers can continue to use service 8, along with local services provided by other operators.
56: This service will be extended to West Auckland up to every 60 minutes, although will retain it's every 30 minutes between Durham and Bishop Auckland.
Journeys that terminate at Bishop Auckland will continue to operate to Toft Hill as service 86.
The extension to West Auckland will continue the 5 buses an hour to Bishop Auckland & Durham, aswell as offering new direct links to Ferryhill. Additionally passengers on journeys from Durham will be able to enjoy the direct link to local faciltys & retail centres located away from the Bus Station.
Route Map (Durham - Bowburn - Coxhoe - West Cornforth - Ferryhill - Kirk Merrington - Coundon - Bishop Auckland - West Auckland)
Estimated Journey Time: 80 Minutes
These changes will open up more corridors for frequent services to key destinations, and will offer an enhanced perception of modern bus travel across the region. The success of services depends on passenger usage, and based on analysis, and customer opinion these service changes will be a positive change.
(08 Sep 2019, 10:23 pm)BusLoverMum wrote </p><p>
</p><p><br></p><p>What would that mean for passengers on the 8a route? It's not the same as the 8. Remember that bus services aren't just about the start and end points. And, surely extending the 8 just duplicates the very frequent 6 at that point. Pointless.<br></p><p>
(08 Sep 2019, 10:23 pm)BusLoverMum wrote <p>Exactly, 8A is the only route round Tudhoe Village and York Hill Estate with the alternative being walking.
</p><p><br></p><p>What would that mean for passengers on the 8a route? It's not the same as the 8. Remember that bus services aren't just about the start and end points. And, surely extending the 8 just duplicates the very frequent 6 at that point. Pointless.<br></p>
(18 Sep 2019, 6:54 pm)S830OFT wrote </p><p>94: This new service will operate up to every 60 minutes, this is a simple renumbering of short 95 journeys, and will ensure that service 95 has enough midibuses. Sunday journeys will continue to operate at their current timetable.</p><p><br></p><p>Route Map (Sainsbury's - Eskdale - Whitby - Stakesby - Ruswarp - Sleights) </p><p><br></p><p>95: This service will only operate NYCC journeys between Whitby Sainsbury's and Lealhome, meaning it will only operate up to every 90 minutes. This service will also depart Whitby via Mayfield Road opposed to Stakesby, which will continue to be served by service 94, additionally will no longer serve Eskdale estate. </p><p><br></p><p>Route Map (Sainsbury's - Whitby - Mayfield Road - Ruswarp - Sleights - Grosmont - Egton - Lealhome)<br></p><p><br></p><p>X4: Additional journeys will operate between Redcar and Whitby in both directions on both mornings and evenings, this will allow single decker buses to transfer between Depots, and this will reduce lost mileage, therefore generating additional revenue for the company.</p><p></p><p><br></p><p>The X4 has a daily swap over of a bus [I believe on the 14-07 from Whitby.]. While we would all like to see more buses, there is enough capacity all day. If you want to increase reliability, add an extra bus from 8 to 9. The fact that the X4 hasn't changed in over 2 years must mean it's working fine. </p><p>The biggest complaint from Whitby residents is that the town buses don't go to places they used to. The route to Grosmont more frequently [in the summer] would be useful.
(21 Dec 2019, 11:54 am)GNE6312 wrote Arriva should remove the South beach estate section from the X7 & X9 as it causes far too much delay, especially when people get on at both sides if the road. These services are meant to be expresses and having this sections makes it seem like the opposite. However have the GNE 309 do the double run along Amersham road since that's not an express.
(22 Jan 2020, 6:25 pm)GNE6312 wrote New Middlesborough suggestions:
X13
Middlesbrough
Thornaby
Stockton
Norton
Billingham
Hartlepool
A19
Peterlee
Dalton park
A19
Heworth
Gateshead
Newcastle
Every 30 mins
This service will provide a quick, direct link between Hartlepool and Newcastle
X17
Middlesborough
Tesside park
Thornaby
Stockton
Norton
Peterlee
Dalton park
Washington galleries
Metrocentre
Newcastle
Between A19 burnhope way slip road and Newcastle Eldon Square this service will only serve
Peteee bus station
Washington galleries sainsbury's car park
Washington galleries bus station
Metrocentre interchange
Newcastle Eldon Square
Every 30 minutes
This service will rival GNE services X9/X10 and X1 (Newcastke to the galleries) as well as competing on the Newcastle to metrocentre section.
X22
Middlesbrough
Thornaby
Teesside park
Stockton
Norton
Peterlee
Dalton Park
Seaham
Sunderland
Every 30 mins
X23
Middlesbrough
Thornaby
Teesside park
Stockton
Norton
Billingham
Hartlepool
Peterlee
Dalton park
Seaham
Sunderland
Every 30 mins
(26 Jan 2020, 12:34 pm)L469 YVK wrote - X10/X11 reduced to every 15 mins (PVR 8)It would just make sense having the X30 running all day
- Super fast X89 / X90 introduced (PVR 3). Journey time from Blyth to Newcastle would be about 35-40 mins. X30 withdrawn with some peak time X89/X90 journeys extended to Bebside.
- X89 Blyth - Newsham Shops - Newsham then non stop to Newcastle via A189 every 60 mins
- X90 Blyth - Newsham - East Cramlington then non stop to Newcastle via A189 every 60 mins
Current PVR: 13
New PVR: 11 (8x X10 / X11 and 3x X89/X90)
(26 Jan 2020, 1:17 pm)GNE6312 wrote It would just make sense having the X30 running all day- X89 would mirror the X10 route (whereas the X30 only runs via Plessey Road)
