Service Changes - January 2020
Service Changes - January 2020
(23 Dec 2019, 12:07 am)Jamie M Why X31 to consett when you already have that section served by the X70 and X71?
(23 Dec 2019, 12:07 am)Jamie M Why X31 to consett when you already have that section served by the X70 and X71?
(22 Dec 2019, 11:17 pm)DH9 The Stanley changes look interesting. Clearly, M6 and M8 are truncated to Stanley and Metrocentre only. It's a shame as the M8 was a cleaner way of travelling between Annfield Plain and the Metrocentre than the 6. I'm guessing the 32 will finish an hour earlier in the afternoon than the M8 does with its Annfield Plain extension due to lower afternoon passenger numbers.30 will continue as is now, 1 hourly to Lanchester and 1 hourly to Quaking Houses, 31 will be the current M7 and 32 will be the current M8 all interworking. X31 won’t replace the X30 simply because of the driver change overs at Consett, X30 and X70/X71 arrive within minutes of each other at Sunniside I’d anyone wants Gateshead from the places you mentioned, in my opinion not that many make the connection (if any) most I would think will catch the 16 and wait the 7/8 mins at Stanley.
New 32 appears to be the M8 extension to Annfield Plain made stand alone. Unless theres something I'm missing, it would be probably more economical to send every second 16 into Fines Park (buses can do the route). Given the 16 in both directions stands a Stanley for 5 minutes, there' scope to do this.
The M6 extension to Lanchester reverts to being the 30. As this is hourly, this leaves Quaking Houses at one bus per hour for first time in years. Again, I may be missing something.
If M7 continues to be an East Stanley only service, the numbering becomes anomalous.
I hope the unreliability of the 6 is sorted out.
One change that has not happened and I'd have liked to have seen is it being the X31 and not the X30 continue hourly to Consett. The X31 makes more sense from a commuting point of view on accessing Gateshead and the Team Valley.from Annfield Plain. The two X32 journeys in each direction should definitely be extended, which would have restored a direct link between Consett and the southern end of the Team Valley lost with the 2007 withdrawal of the 934.
I'm hoping also the short 6 on a morning from Flint Hill to Stanley has its guaranteed link with the 7.10 am X32 restored. That was personally very useful to me.
(22 Dec 2019, 11:17 pm)DH9 The Stanley changes look interesting. Clearly, M6 and M8 are truncated to Stanley and Metrocentre only. It's a shame as the M8 was a cleaner way of travelling between Annfield Plain and the Metrocentre than the 6. I'm guessing the 32 will finish an hour earlier in the afternoon than the M8 does with its Annfield Plain extension due to lower afternoon passenger numbers.30 will continue as is now, 1 hourly to Lanchester and 1 hourly to Quaking Houses, 31 will be the current M7 and 32 will be the current M8 all interworking. X31 won’t replace the X30 simply because of the driver change overs at Consett, X30 and X70/X71 arrive within minutes of each other at Sunniside I’d anyone wants Gateshead from the places you mentioned, in my opinion not that many make the connection (if any) most I would think will catch the 16 and wait the 7/8 mins at Stanley.
New 32 appears to be the M8 extension to Annfield Plain made stand alone. Unless theres something I'm missing, it would be probably more economical to send every second 16 into Fines Park (buses can do the route). Given the 16 in both directions stands a Stanley for 5 minutes, there' scope to do this.
The M6 extension to Lanchester reverts to being the 30. As this is hourly, this leaves Quaking Houses at one bus per hour for first time in years. Again, I may be missing something.
If M7 continues to be an East Stanley only service, the numbering becomes anomalous.
I hope the unreliability of the 6 is sorted out.
One change that has not happened and I'd have liked to have seen is it being the X31 and not the X30 continue hourly to Consett. The X31 makes more sense from a commuting point of view on accessing Gateshead and the Team Valley.from Annfield Plain. The two X32 journeys in each direction should definitely be extended, which would have restored a direct link between Consett and the southern end of the Team Valley lost with the 2007 withdrawal of the 934.
I'm hoping also the short 6 on a morning from Flint Hill to Stanley has its guaranteed link with the 7.10 am X32 restored. That was personally very useful to me.
(23 Dec 2019, 5:04 am)Stanleyone 30 will continue as is now, 1 hourly to Lanchester and 1 hourly to Quaking Houses, 31 will be the current M7 and 32 will be the current M8 all interworking. X31 won’t replace the X30 simply because of the driver change overs at Consett, X30 and X70/X71 arrive within minutes of each other at Sunniside I’d anyone wants Gateshead from the places you mentioned, in my opinion not that many make the connection (if any) most I would think will catch the 16 and wait the 7/8 mins at Stanley.
(23 Dec 2019, 5:04 am)Stanleyone 30 will continue as is now, 1 hourly to Lanchester and 1 hourly to Quaking Houses, 31 will be the current M7 and 32 will be the current M8 all interworking. X31 won’t replace the X30 simply because of the driver change overs at Consett, X30 and X70/X71 arrive within minutes of each other at Sunniside I’d anyone wants Gateshead from the places you mentioned, in my opinion not that many make the connection (if any) most I would think will catch the 16 and wait the 7/8 mins at Stanley.
Any Idea about 4,8 and 50.
As a Washington lad any major Changes would be good to know about
Heard from a driver today that with the X21 being extended to West, there will be no waiting time in Bishop anymore, I guess some of the drivers won't be pleased as they won't have time for a smoke!
I guess that also means that the northbound services will become even more unreliable as they won't have that 10-20 minute buffer anymore
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(24 Dec 2019, 12:54 pm)ASX_Terranova Any Idea about 4,8 and 50.
As a Washington lad any major Changes would be good to know about
(24 Dec 2019, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK I'm sure Go North East will publish them all in good time once New Year is out the way.
(24 Dec 2019, 12:54 pm)ASX_Terranova Any Idea about 4,8 and 50.
As a Washington lad any major Changes would be good to know about
(24 Dec 2019, 3:19 pm)S813 FVK I'm sure Go North East will publish them all in good time once New Year is out the way.
Looks like the 21, will still run every 7 minutes between Newcastle and Chester, but only half a hour between Chester and Durham, working with the X21 -
Both from Chester:
21: 50 and 20
X21 - 43 58 13 28
So it provides a service of every 7/8 mins, between Chester and Durham... 13, 20, 28, 43, 50 and 58
(27 Dec 2019, 2:29 pm)S813 FVK As an FYI to the above: the basic format timetables are now on the GNE website.Seems like 4 reduced to 12mins on a Saturday.
(27 Dec 2019, 2:29 pm)S813 FVK As an FYI to the above: the basic format timetables are now on the GNE website.Seems like 4 reduced to 12mins on a Saturday.
(27 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm)Michael Looks like the 21, will still run every 7 minutes between Newcastle and Chester, but only half a hour between Chester and Durham, working with the X21 -
Both from Chester:
21: 50 and 20
X21 - 43 58 13 28
So it provides a service of every 7/8 mins, between Chester and Durham... 13, 20, 28, 43, 50 and 58
(27 Dec 2019, 2:49 pm)Michael Looks like the 21, will still run every 7 minutes between Newcastle and Chester, but only half a hour between Chester and Durham, working with the X21 -
Both from Chester:
21: 50 and 20
X21 - 43 58 13 28
So it provides a service of every 7/8 mins, between Chester and Durham... 13, 20, 28, 43, 50 and 58
Looks like:
309 - Every 20 minutes - Newcastle to Bylth
310 - Every 20 minutes - Newcastle to North Shields
311 - Every 20 minutes - Newcastle to Hadrian Park
Combines for a service between Newcastle Haymarket and Battle Hill Berwick Drive every 6/7 minutes.
(27 Dec 2019, 2:55 pm)JP6004 21 timetable seems strange....same frequency as now but only 2 services continuing to Durham, rest terminating at chester.
Still think they should of had 21 every 15mins to Durham and X21 every 15mins and removed the chester shorts
(27 Dec 2019, 2:55 pm)JP6004 21 timetable seems strange....same frequency as now but only 2 services continuing to Durham, rest terminating at chester.
Still think they should of had 21 every 15mins to Durham and X21 every 15mins and removed the chester shorts
(27 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm)Jimmi Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.This is exactly what I would have done. I personally think the full 21 is a fairly pointless route, like you said, anybody wanting to travel to Durham will pick the X21, it's considerably faster!
More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.
(27 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm)Jimmi Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.This is exactly what I would have done. I personally think the full 21 is a fairly pointless route, like you said, anybody wanting to travel to Durham will pick the X21, it's considerably faster!
More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.
Looking at the evening 309/310/311 services, I'm surprised GNE (although a good decision) have went with a 20 minute frequency between Newcastle and Battle Hill with the 310 no longer serving Hadrian Park with the 311 running at xx:25.
Have passengers on the 310 complained about the extra 5 mins or so it takes to run via Hadrian Park?
(27 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm)Jimmi Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.I believe that is the case with X21 serving all stops south of CLS, probably now opening the discussion about true express services.
More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.
(27 Dec 2019, 3:11 pm)Jimmi Problem with that idea is Chester - Newcastle is the busier end of the route so would be daft to cut the frequency of that section of the route.I believe that is the case with X21 serving all stops south of CLS, probably now opening the discussion about true express services.
More people tend to opt for X21 if travelling further than Chester-le-Street so makes sense to increase that in my eyes, only downside is those in Birtley and some stops in Low Fell now being cut to half hourly to/from Durham, would imagine they'll have the X21 observing all stops between Durham and Chester to make up for the loss of the 21.
(27 Dec 2019, 3:22 pm)Stanleyone I believe that is the case with X21 serving all stops south of CLS, probably now opening the discussion about true express services.Well, I'm glad someone else brought that up so Dan can't complain that it was me this time!
(27 Dec 2019, 3:22 pm)Stanleyone I believe that is the case with X21 serving all stops south of CLS, probably now opening the discussion about true express services.Well, I'm glad someone else brought that up so Dan can't complain that it was me this time!
