10/11 extended to North Shields (NEXUS contract) replacing soon to be withdrawn 5. Will be good also as a direct link from South Tyneside to the Seasider with a through ticket that could be purchased.

(16 Jun 2019, 1:52 pm)Malarkey wrote

Do you have better suggestions than what I have come up with, just to note I only the "suggested route 37" would be operated by a minibus with other services remaining double decker operated and from my suggestions have I abandoned the people of Heaton/High Heaton, no I haven't, might want to re-read my post first!

Furthermore I appreciate that the extension to the cobalt was to offer a direct link from Heaton/High Heaton however it doesn't matter what time of day I see the 1 on the Cobalt it runs around empty, last night when I got on it I was the only one it between the Cobalt and Heaton as it didn't pick up a single passenger.

Also given the 1 also goes via Holystone/Benton Asda along the main roads of newly built estates is it going to pick anyone up when all those areas much like Heaton have a high amount of cars users with people living in those areas who are clearly have quite a lot of money. Are those people really going stop taking the car to work in order to get on the bus, I don't think they are if I am totally honest.

As a result of the above is the extension to the Cobalt really financially sustainable for Stagecoach to run throughout the day going forward as I do think it maybe better to have a few journey's extended during peak times only.

The number 1 avoids Holystone and West Allotment using the slip roads. This therefore losing passengers s it avoids it to save time. The 1 in this section needs re-routing and r-timing as it is a clear it wants to compete for the clearly profitable and favourable 51/A. As a local resident in this area, I prefer getting the 51/A as it is right on my doorstep yet the1 just avoids us and the metro loses out due to the 51 close proximity. The 1 will not be profitable in this area unless it serves these 2 villages, as they are losing out to the 51 as it stands.

Other ideas inc-

22- extended to Northumberland park to directly compete with 19.

62- extended to Cobalt

63- extended to Great Park

22 will require extra E400 drafted in from X63.

More E400MMCs ordered for extended 62/63 and to cover X63 too

(20 Jun 2019, 10:42 pm)JM03 wrote

The number 1 avoids Holystone and West Allotment using the slip roads. This therefore losing passengers s it avoids it to save time. The 1 in this section needs re-routing and r-timing as it is a clear it wants to compete for the clearly profitable and favourable 51/A. As a local resident in this area, I prefer getting the 51/A as it is right on my doorstep yet the1 just avoids us and the metro loses out due to the 51 close proximity. The 1 will not be profitable in this area unless it serves these 2 villages, as they are losing out to the 51 as it stands.

Other ideas inc-

22- extended to Northumberland park to directly compete with 19.

62- extended to Cobalt

63- extended to Great Park

22 will require extra E400 drafted in from X63.

More E400MMCs ordered for extended 62/63 and to cover X63 too

Can’t see the 62/63 Extension working. Maybe the 22. One I could see extendable is the 38 to Quorum or Four Lane Ends.

A service to relieve pressure of the 62 and 63

Some suggestions for services across South Tyneside & North Tyneside.

1: The section between Coach Lane and Cobalt will be withdrawn and replaced by new service X21.

10/11: These services will be reduced to operate every 60 minutes, and will additionaly no longer serve Cobalt. The Low Simonside to Jarrow section will retain 2 buses per hour with the introduction of service X21 which will offer faster buses to South Shields, aswell as offer daytime buses to North Tyneside.

X21: This new service will offer new frequent daytime links between South Tyneside and North Tyneside. The service will combine with service X20 to offer 2 buses per hour between South Shields and Primrose, and services 10 & 11 between Low Simonside and Jarrow.

The extension to North Tyneside will see the withdrawl of the 1/10/11 sections at Cobalt, although connections to these services will still be available by connections on the X21.

Service X21 will offer a faster alternative for passengers who usually take the Metro or Ferry, and will even serve the major business parks along the way...

Route Map: South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Simonside - Low Simonside - Falmouth Drive - Primrose Estate - Jarrow - Tyne Tunnel - Silverlink - Cobalt - Benton Asda - Four Lane Ends - Quorum Business Park.

(15 Nov 2019, 8:56 pm)S830OFT wrote Some suggestions for services across South Tyneside & North Tyneside.

1: The section between Coach Lane and Cobalt will be withdrawn and replaced by new service X21.

10/11: These services will be reduced to operate every 60 minutes, and will additionaly no longer serve Cobalt. The Low Simonside to Jarrow section will retain 2 buses per hour with the introduction of service X21 which will offer faster buses to South Shields, aswell as offer daytime buses to North Tyneside.

X21: This new service will offer new frequent daytime links between South Tyneside and North Tyneside. The service will combine with service X20 to offer 2 buses per hour between South Shields and Primrose, and services 10 & 11 between Low Simonside and Jarrow.

The extension to North Tyneside will see the withdrawl of the 1/10/11 sections at Cobalt, although connections to these services will still be available by connections on the X21.

Service X21 will offer a faster alternative for passengers who usually take the Metro or Ferry, and will even serve the major business parks along the way...

Route Map: South Shields - Chichester - Tyne Dock - Simonside - Low Simonside - Falmouth Drive - Primrose Estate - Jarrow - Tyne Tunnel - Silverlink - Cobalt - Benton Asda - Four Lane Ends - Quorum Business Park.

Wouldn't bother messing round with the 1. It gets enough changes already without this suggestion. It will just confuse the people who actually do use the 1. With the cuts Heaton will loose their direct link to cobalt

Extend X24 to Washington Galleries, Concord & Heworth Or Create a New Service Like the One I Suggested GNE Use

Extend 100 from Metrocentre to Washington Galleries, also serving Team Valley at Peak Times

Reduce the 32/32A to Etal Lane to Benwell only. Plenty of services from Benwell into the City Centre, and then on to Walker.

Withdraw the 87 and replace with service 64 to Killingworth via Central Station.

Extend service 72 from the City Centre to Byker, providing another direct link to Byker from Throckley via Blakelaw and Newcastle City Centre, replacing 32/32A.

Interwork the short 12's with the 18

Small change have the X24/X34 serve Market Street instead of pilgrim street to improve reliability

Withdrawn 6/7 and 8, extend X87/X88 from Newbiggin Hall via Westerhope/West Denton to Metrocentre. Already enough services to Kingston Park and Gosforth, passengers could just change buses at Gosforth to go to Fawdon and Four Lane Ends.

(09 Jan 2020, 4:55 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Withdrawn 6/7 and 8, extend X87/X88 from Newbiggin Hall via Westerhope/West Denton to Metrocentre. Already enough services to Kingston Park and Gosforth, passengers could just change buses at Gosforth to go to Fawdon and Four Lane Ends.

So sever links from the likes of Kingston Park, Kenton, Fawdon, Gosforth to Metrocentre and Freeman in order to create zero new links?  No one is going to use the X87/X88 from Newcastle to go via the delights of Cowgate, Blakelaw and Newbiggin Hall to Metrocentre, when they can go direct on the 100.  Great plan.

Service 8: This service will be reduced to operate every 60 minutes, although service 18 will be revised to serve South Hylton and High Barnes to continue the every 30 minutes frequency. Both services will follow a circular route which will replicate the current 18 service. Route Map plan at the end of plan.

Service 10: This service will lose one morning journey to Grangetown, and one afternoon journey to Pennywell. This will only occur on School days.

Service 10A: This service will replace service 18A operating one am & one pm journey. This service will only operate on School days. Additionaly the service will commece on Fordfield Road, and will only operate between Pennywell, Pallion, Grindon, Thorney Close, Durham Road and Grangetown.

Service 18: This service will be revised to combine with service 8, although will lose some sections of route. The service will continue the hourly frequency, however the route will be as followed:

Route 8 Map (South Hylton - The Broadway - High Barnes - Royal Hospital - Chester Road - Sunderland City Centre - Roker Park - Seaburn Morrisons - Fulwell, The Grange - Southwick - Pallion - Royal Hospital - High Barnes - The Broadway - South Hylton)

Route 18 Map (South Hylton - The Broadway - High Barnes - Royal Hospital - Pallion - Southwick - Fulwell, The Grange - Seaburn Morrisons - Roker Park - Sunderland City Centre - Chester Road - Royal
Hospital - High Barnes - The Broadway - South Hylton)

PVR of service 8/18 (3) - PVR reduced by 1.

64- West Denton- Stamfordham Road- Slatyford Depot-Two Ball Lonnen- Fenham Hall Drive- Wingrove Road- Newcastle General Hospital-Newcastle Central Station-The Gate- Blackett Street-Manors- Byker- Chillingham Road- Benton Road- Four Lane Ends- Balliol Business Park- Quorum- West Moor-Killingworth Bus Station- East Bailey-Backworth-Northumberland Park-Cobalt Business Park Mon-Sat until about 7PM, After 7PM Mon-Sat evenings and all day Sundays journeys woild terminate at Killingworth Bus Station, and last 2 journeys would terminate at Four Lane Ends

With the rumours of Stagecoach Sunderland changes taking place in May, a mention of a new service was included in the post.

Anyone know anymore information about this?, its going to be interesting to see if it another services which leaves Sunderland.

Hopefully the Metrocentre so my predication would be:



X14 - Sunderland - Hospital - Hastings Hill - Gateshead - Metrocentre (using the Centrelink)

Monday to Saturday - Hourly with the first bus from Sunderland at 7:30am - last bus from Metrocentre at 7:30pm.



If its a local route, i just can't see where the route could be.


However..

I think the 18 will be completely withdrawn with the 2 buses from the 18 replacing the Darts.


The route from the 18 will continue to be served by other services:


Gilley Law - 3
Springwell/Thorney close - 23
Grindon - service 16 (although Gleneagles road will lose its only regular service)
Pennywell - 8/20 and GNE 39
Pallion/Hospital - 8/10/11/16/20/X24.. GNE 2/2A/8A/35/39/78
Southwick - 3,4,12,13,16
Seaburn - E1,E2,E3 - (23 Dene Estate area)
Sunderland City Centre - A variety of services

X14 ,really?,would be an interesting one

(13 Feb 2020, 11:08 pm)V514DFT wrote X14 ,really?,would be an interesting one

Yup, they used to run Metrocentre services years ago, sure it was the M39, M40 and M41.

Is this confirmed?

(14 Feb 2020, 1:50 pm)V514DFT wrote Is this confirmed?

No its a suggestion.

A good one at that

(13 Feb 2020, 1:27 pm)Michael wrote With the rumours of Stagecoach Sunderland changes taking place in May, a mention of a new service was included in the post.

Anyone know anymore information about this?, its going to be interesting to see if it another services which leaves Sunderland.

Hopefully the Metrocentre so my predication would be:



X14 - Sunderland - Hospital - Hastings Hill - Gateshead - Metrocentre (using the Centrelink)

Monday to Saturday - Hourly with the first bus from Sunderland at 7:30am - last bus from Metrocentre at 7:30pm.



If its a local route, i just can't see where the route could be.


However..

I think the 18 will be completely withdrawn with the 2 buses from the 18 replacing the Darts.


The route from the 18 will continue to be served by other services:


Gilley Law - 3
Springwell/Thorney close - 23
Grindon - service 16 (although Gleneagles road will lose its only regular service)
Pennywell - 8/20 and GNE 39
Pallion/Hospital - 8/10/11/16/20/X24.. GNE 2/2A/8A/35/39/78
Southwick - 3,4,12,13,16
Seaburn - E1,E2,E3 - (23 Dene Estate area)
Sunderland City Centre - A variety of services

Running any route down the centre link is lost copacity

Could route it the same way as the 100 from Gateshead Interchange

(15 Feb 2020, 5:09 pm)V514DFT wrote Could route it the same way as the 100 from Gateshead Interchange

That's a better Idea than the centre link

(15 Feb 2020, 6:27 pm)GNE6312 wrote That's a better Idea than the centre link

Does the 100 still do Redhugh Bridge-A184-A1 or did they change it

Could change the Saturday running of x34 with an alternative x34A service that runs to metro centre from Gateshead instead of Newcastle.

(16 Feb 2020, 2:22 pm)V514DFT wrote Does the 100 still do Redhugh Bridge-A184-A1 or did they change it

Normally, the 100 does one of the following:
- Redheugh Bridge> A184 >Derwentwater Road > Clockmill Road

- Redheugh Bridge > A184 > A1 > Dunston Rd > Wellington Road

- Redheugh Bridge > A184 > A1 > Hollinside Rd >St Michael's Way (if some runs still call at House of Fraser)

- Redbeugh Bridge > Askew Road West > Teams Street > Clockmill Road

Send the X24/X24A and X34 to Haymarket or Eldon Square

(16 Mar 2020, 8:00 am)V514DFT wrote Send the X24/X24A and X34 to Haymarket or Eldon Square

X34 original terminus was Haymarket

(16 Mar 2020, 8:17 am)ifm001 wrote X34 original terminus was Haymarket

I always thought i remembered seeing the X34 at Haymarket,glad you confirmes that for me mate