Tender Discussion Thread

[OrangeArrow49]

Ye, but which services?

For which area?

[cbma06]

For which area?

Contracts which start from 23rd March


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[OrangeArrow49]

Contracts which start from 23rd March


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13, 32A, 33/33A, 42A, 84/84A in Newcastle (probably others too) 
Not sure about North Tyneside 

Any timetable change or just operator changes? 

[OrangeArrow49]

Have the 6 and 553 been awarded for 23rd March? Are they staying with Arriva?

[Dan]

13, 32A, 33/33A, 42A, 84/84A in Newcastle (probably others too) 
Not sure about North Tyneside 

Any timetable change or just operator changes? 

For the avoidance of doubt, the contracts changing on 22 March 2020 are:

- services 6 and 553: currently operated by Arriva North East
- services 11 and 19 (evenings only): currently operated by Go North East
- service 13: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services 33/33A: currently operated by Go North East
- services 40/41/42/42A (40/41 evenings only, 42/42A daytime & evenings): currently operated by Go North East
- services 84/84A: currently operated by Stanley Travel
- service 359: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services K1/K2: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services W1/W1A: currently operated by Go North East
- service W2: currently operated by Go North East

Timetables attached. All contracts apart from services 40/41/42/42A have now been awarded.

[Michael]

For the avoidance of doubt, the contracts changing on 22 March 2020 are:

- services 6 and 553: currently operated by Arriva North East
- services 11 and 19 (evenings only): currently operated by Go North East
- service 13: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services 33/33A: currently operated by Go North East
- services 40/41/42/42A (evenings only): currently operated by Go North East
- services 84/84A: currently operated by Stanley Travel
- service 359: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services K1/K2: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services W1/W1A: currently operated by Go North East
- service W2: currently operated by Go North East

Timetables attached. All contracts apart from services 40/41/42/42A have now been awarded.

Any reason why the 40/41/42/42A contract hasn't been awarded?, staying with GNE?

[OrangeArrow49]

For the avoidance of doubt, the contracts changing on 22 March 2020 are:

- services 6 and 553: currently operated by Arriva North East
- services 11 and 19 (evenings only): currently operated by Go North East
- service 13: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services 33/33A: currently operated by Go North East
- services 40/41/42/42A (evenings only): currently operated by Go North East
- services 84/84A: currently operated by Stanley Travel
- service 359: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services K1/K2: currently operated by Gateshead Central Taxis
- services W1/W1A: currently operated by Go North East
- service W2: currently operated by Go North East

Timetables attached. All contracts apart from services 40/41/42/42A have now been awarded.

Thanks, Dan. Are these all changing operator? For example the 32A contract expires 22nd March 2020, is that staying with Gateshead Central Taxis? Who have the contracts been awarded to with effect from 23rd March 2020?

[Dan]

Any reason why the 40/41/42/42A contract hasn't been awarded?, staying with GNE?

I understand this group of services is being put out to tender again.

Thanks, Dan. Are these all changing operator? For example the 32A contract expires 22nd March 2020, is that staying with Gateshead Central Taxis? Who have the contracts been awarded to with effect from 23rd March 2020?

Any of the services which weren't listed in my previous post have had their contracts extended.

[OrangeArrow49]

Any reason why the 40/41/42/42A contract hasn't been awarded?, staying with GNE?

42/42A automatically go to GNE, and I guess the 40/41 is the same contract as the 42/42A.

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I understand this group of services is being put out to tender again.



Any of the services which weren't listed in my previous post have had their contracts extended.

Thanks again, Dan. Why is the 40/41/42/42A going out for tender again?

I know who has got the 84/84A. I also knew the 13 was changing operator, but not sure who to (Arriva?). I expected the 33/33A would change from Go North East (Arriva too?).

[Michael]

42/42A automatically go to GNE, and I guess the 40/41 is the same contract as the 42/42A.

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Thanks again, Dan. Why is the 40/41/42/42A going out for tender again?

I know who has got the 84/84A. I also knew the 13 was changing operator, but not sure who to (Arriva?). I expected the 33/33A would change from Go North East (Arriva too?).

If you know who the 13/84/84A has gone to, care to share?

[Dan]

Whilst on the subject of contracts, Nexus have also invited operators to tender for a number of services in May.

Tender award will be weighted as follows:
- 90% price
- 7% provision of Euro 6 or greater emissions
- 3% provision of enhanced customer experience (Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements, etc).


Services 68, 92, 927, 937, 93A, 83A
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, that does not exceed 8.9m in length

  NEX 19 77 Bus Services ITT 68 92 927 937 93A 83A Final.pdf (Size 828.49 KB / Downloads 26)


Services 81/82/83/84
3x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sun evenings

  NEX 19 77 Bus Services ITT 81 82 83 84 Final.pdf (Size 841.98 KB / Downloads 13)


Services 85/86
2x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sun evenings

  NEX 19 77 Bus Services ITT 85 86 Final.pdf (Size 710.33 KB / Downloads 13)


Service 168
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23, that does not exceed 8.5m in length, Mon-Sat.

  NEX 19 77 Bus Services ITT 168 Final.pdf (Size 737.8 KB / Downloads 15)


Service 516
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sat

  NEX 19 77 Bus Services ITT 516 Final.pdf (Size 647.2 KB / Downloads 11)

[OrangeArrow49]

If you know who the 13/84/84A has gone to, care to share?

The 13, I only know GCT have lost it and the 84/84A has been gained by GCT. I have also posted this in the Gateshead Central Taxis operator thread. I expect Arriva has acquired the 13 and 33/33A.

[OrangeArrow49]

Whilst on the subject of contracts, Nexus have also invited operators to tender for a number of services in May.

Tender award will be weighted as follows:
- 90% price
- 7% provision of Euro 6 or greater emissions
- 3% provision of enhanced customer experience (Wi-Fi, Next Stop Announcements, etc).


Services 68, 92, 927, 937, 93A, 83A
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, that does not exceed 8.9m in length



Services 81/82/83/84
3x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sun evenings



Services 85/86
2x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sun evenings



Service 168
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 23, that does not exceed 8.5m in length, Mon-Sat.



Service 516
1x Euro 5 vehicle with a minimum capacity of 36, Mon-Sat

I expect the 516 will stay with Gateshead Central Taxis, it wasn't that long ago they got it off GNE.

[OrangeArrow49]

Who has been awarded the 6 and 553? What has Arriva gained?

[OrangeArrow49]

SERVICE SUGGESTION

Merge the 6 and 553: Regent Centre - Gosforth - Jesmond - Newcastle - Shieldfield - Walkergate - Wallsend - Battle Hill

Also notice the 553 is quicker between Wallsend and Gosforth than on the Q3, but I do like the Q3 providing a link to Newcastle Quayside for Wallsend passengers. This is why I think GNE could take on Stagecoach, and Stagecoach likewise take on GNE, just offer something different and gain some passengers on the shared corridors, like Wallsend.

[GuyParkRoyal]

Nexus have issued the invitation to tender for Planned Metro Replacement Bus Services. The contract will be issued on a framework basis to several operators (maximum of 10) and will cover a period of 12 months with the option for Nexus to extend contract for upto a further 24 months.

Contracts have now been awarded for the Planned Metro Rail Replacement Bus Services. The contracts are with Go North East, JH Coaches and Stagecoach.

Tenders are now being reviewed for Metro Emergency Replacement services.

[Michael]

Contracts have now been awarded for the Planned Metro Rail Replacement Bus Services. The contracts are with Go North East, JH Coaches and Stagecoach.

Tenders are now being reviewed for Metro Emergency Replacement services.

Stagecoach seem to be digging in to these kinda contracts lately (School, 939, Metro replacement), wonder if they're struggling on normal services?

[Dans_bus_photos]

Stagecoach seem to be digging in to these kinda contracts lately (School, 939, Metro replacement), wonder if they're struggling on normal services?

Possibly just different management that want to try and earn some extra money with the contracted services, so have possibly reduced their overheads to win some of the contracts. Surprised Arriva haven't won any of the Metro contracts

[Dan]

Possibly just different management that want to try and earn some extra money with the contracted services, so have possibly reduced their overheads to win some of the contracts. Surprised Arriva haven't won any of the Metro contracts

Understand Arriva didn’t put in for the planned or emergency work for Metro - despite there being no obligation to provide buses for either.


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[Adrian]

Stagecoach seem to be digging in to these kinda contracts lately (School, 939, Metro replacement), wonder if they're struggling on normal services?

I kind of understand, if there was to have been a reluctance to bid for this work.

Nexus, like with almost all contracts now, are only offering 12 months. That doesn't provide operators with much security in order to acquire or retain vehicles that may be required, should Metro come calling.

There may be an option to extend for 24, but the cards appear to be solely in the hands of Nexus there. Not many banks will give you cash to gamble...

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