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RE: Odd workings - June 2020
(07 Jun 2020, 7:23 pm)Economic505 wrote Great sight seeing deckers in Sunderland. Was out running and saw both of them in action. If only Sunderland depot had a fleet of them .

Whenever Sunderland next get new buses they should get a fleet of ADL E400MMC bodied Scania CNG's to replace 19641-44, 24001-3, 27726-40 and possibly some MAN E200s which would be withdrawn or cascaded elsewhere to replace several of the remaining MAN ALX300s. Though green bus funding would be needed to purchase more gas-powered buses.

Sunderland may need more double deckers in the near future for social distancing?
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
(07 Jun 2020, 8:13 pm)AIG20 wrote Whenever Sunderland next get new buses they should get a fleet of ADL E400MMC bodied Scania CNG's to replace 19641-44, 24001-3, 27726-40 and possibly some MAN E200s which would be withdrawn or cascaded elsewhere to replace several of the remaining MAN ALX300s. Though green bus funding would be needed to purchase more gas-powered buses.

Sunderland may need more double deckers in the near future for social distancing?

I heard from a friend, that if the North East was to get new buses, Sunderland would be next, he said someone high up had told them... take it with a pinch of salt though.

I would like Sunderland to become a fully gas run depot, that was the plans years ago but now i would imagine, orders will be lower over the next few years due to this crisis.

Hopefully the Government release funding for buses to help with buying greener buses.

24001-24003 were planned to be withdrawn in the Sunderland changes for April, i would imagine these will still go ahead and will be put in place when "normal" service resumes.

I don't get why Stagecoach are still running a Sunday service when GNE are running at least 80% of their services...
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RE: Odd workings - June 2020
(07 Jun 2020, 8:34 pm)Michael wrote I heard from a friend, that if the North East was to get new buses, Sunderland would be next, he said someone high up had told them... take it with a pinch of salt though.

I would like Sunderland to become a fully gas run depot, that was the plans years ago but now i would imagine, orders will be lower over the next few years due to this crisis.

Hopefully the Government release funding for buses to help with buying greener buses.

24001-24003 were planned to be withdrawn in the Sunderland changes for April, i would imagine these will still go ahead and will be put in place when "normal" service resumes.

I don't get why Stagecoach are still running a Sunday service when GNE are running at least 80% of their services...

Because the demand for such service is not there at the moment, GNE opted to run 80% of their services as they didn't know what passenger numbers were going to be like following those returning to work last week to in part was a smart move as it has allowed a lot of room for social distancing on services as they were getting busier on the temporary timetable.

From personal experience in the last week of using the 21/25/X21 & 309 between home and work there has been no more than 5 people on the services at any one time so a reduced timetable of 50% of what they are running now I would say would be enough, more so if double deckers were allocated to the majority of services which operate with single decks at the moment.
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
(08 Jun 2020, 1:19 am)Robin58 wrote Have just read info about possible disposals of 19641-44 also 27726 /740 if Sunderland get new buses send them back to Shields depot!
But Shields doesn’t need extra buses. It has less buses simply to keep within budget. Going over budget would threaten the depot’s medium to long term survival.
Economic505
(08 Jun 2020, 12:09 pm)Robin58 wrote Well Sunderland don’t need any more buses to replace the ones they’ve got!
Perhaps you right. It will be a decision made by the executives at Stagecoach HQ , when allocating funds to each region.
Odd workings - June 2020
(08 Jun 2020, 3:10 am)Economic505 wrote But Shields doesn’t need extra buses. It has less buses simply to keep within budget. Going over budget would threaten the depot’s medium to long term survival.


I’m surprised that stagecoach hasn’t closed down South Shields Depot and moving the rest of the operations over to Sunderland, wonder how much it cost to keep shields depot open, the depot itself must be quite a number of years old and the structure will be taking a toll


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RE: Odd workings - June 2020
19644 has just past my house on the 23, the other board on the 23 is also a decker, which is 19641 according to bustimes.org

19642/19643 are on the 11.
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RE: Odd workings - June 2020
Meanwhile, Stockton have 19205 out on one of the two 36 boards - quite a contrast to last Sunday when 11288/99 were on 36s, 19204/5 were on 28/59/61 and 19383 was on 52s.
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
'Dots' 27253 is out in Middlesbrough this morning - appears to be a changeover for 27180. It's so far worked a 39 and is in the middle of a trip on 14s.
MMC 26280 is out on the all day 59(/58/61) board - being duped by the usual 'Dots' 27245.
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
We have deckers out on Teesside
19204 is out on 58(/59/61)
19211 is out on 59
19383 is out on 59(/58/61) (59 every half hour on Saturdays as well - only weekday change also in effect on a Saturday)
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
26282/7/91/3 on 12/39 - boards which also work 36/37/38 (26282 is out all night on 36s)
26290 is out on the 12/39 standalone board - ‘Dots’ 27251 is the other one (1110 start)
26276/85 on 10/14
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
(04 Jul 2020, 2:05 pm)glen wrote E 400 on 12 in linthorpe road just 10 go.

19204 is on 36/37/38/39/12 and should - barring a changeover - work 38s and 12s tonight
19383 is also on 36/37/38/39/12 but on the board that stays in Middlesbrough on 12/14/39
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
Can I a question are stagecoach on teesside keep there E400 at Stockton depot now lost the school contract.
RE: Odd workings - June 2020
(04 Jul 2020, 3:07 pm)glen wrote Can I a question are stagecoach on teesside keep there E400 at Stockton depot now lost the school contract.

Given more DD's will be required in Tyne & Wear for contracts won up there I can't honestly see them staying. The exception might be SL06 unless this moves to Sunderland.

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