(31 Dec 2013, 3:42 pm)Crusader How can it be said that services are being reduced and changes being made for the worse when the details aren't yet available? Surely it would be sensible to wait until the end of the week to see the details of the changes before commenting if they are better or worse?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:42 pm)Crusader How can it be said that services are being reduced and changes being made for the worse when the details aren't yet available? Surely it would be sensible to wait until the end of the week to see the details of the changes before commenting if they are better or worse?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:45 pm)CatsFast101 Going by consultation and VOSA registrations, it would appear changes are mostly going ahead, which I believe means Marley Pots loses all GNE services & Castletown/Town End Farm is reduced from 4 to 3 buses each hour from/to City Centre. However I do agree we need to see what the changes are fully to comment on them.
(31 Dec 2013, 3:45 pm)CatsFast101 Going by consultation and VOSA registrations, it would appear changes are mostly going ahead, which I believe means Marley Pots loses all GNE services & Castletown/Town End Farm is reduced from 4 to 3 buses each hour from/to City Centre. However I do agree we need to see what the changes are fully to comment on them.
(31 Dec 2013, 3:16 pm)gtomlinson Since its late in the year and booze has clouded my memory and ability to google, what type of vehicle did GNE have on loan from EYMS for the 21/22 trial?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:16 pm)gtomlinson Since its late in the year and booze has clouded my memory and ability to google, what type of vehicle did GNE have on loan from EYMS for the 21/22 trial?
(31 Dec 2013, 3:57 pm)andreos1 Not sure about EYMS, but can remember a decker working that route.
Possibly a Brighton bus?
I will use your excuse too...
(31 Dec 2013, 3:57 pm)andreos1 Not sure about EYMS, but can remember a decker working that route.
Possibly a Brighton bus?
I will use your excuse too...
(31 Dec 2013, 4:04 pm)Dan Are we talking about Brighton & Hove's 440 (BK10 MGV), which was a former demonstrator vehicle?
That was numbered 9147, and was initially on loan at Washington depot for "Red Arrows" service X1 (as shown here).
Or are we talking about Brighton & Hove's 441 (BG61 SXS), which was used for familiarisation purposes at Chester-le-Street depot on "Angel" service 21, (as shown here)?
(31 Dec 2013, 4:04 pm)Dan Are we talking about Brighton & Hove's 440 (BK10 MGV), which was a former demonstrator vehicle?
That was numbered 9147, and was initially on loan at Washington depot for "Red Arrows" service X1 (as shown here).
Or are we talking about Brighton & Hove's 441 (BG61 SXS), which was used for familiarisation purposes at Chester-le-Street depot on "Angel" service 21, (as shown here)?
(31 Dec 2013, 2:08 pm)gtomlinson I see our own Greg having a bash at GNE over the service changes.
(31 Dec 2013, 2:08 pm)gtomlinson I see our own Greg having a bash at GNE over the service changes.
(31 Dec 2013, 4:35 pm)Greg in Weardale What really pissed me off was them wasting time on a ridiculous Facebook post about the Winter Carnival in Newcastle and GNE TAKING you there, but they can't bring you back as all the buses disappear by 7pm - when they can't be arsed to even SAY what the changes are (allegedly in response to the "consultation" it was almost impossible to find the forms for) weeks after they've been notified to Traffic Commissioners. They obviously know these changes, sorry ... reductions, aren't going to be popular.
(31 Dec 2013, 4:35 pm)Greg in Weardale What really pissed me off was them wasting time on a ridiculous Facebook post about the Winter Carnival in Newcastle and GNE TAKING you there, but they can't bring you back as all the buses disappear by 7pm - when they can't be arsed to even SAY what the changes are (allegedly in response to the "consultation" it was almost impossible to find the forms for) weeks after they've been notified to Traffic Commissioners. They obviously know these changes, sorry ... reductions, aren't going to be popular.
(31 Dec 2013, 4:35 pm)Greg in Weardale What really pissed me off was them wasting time on a ridiculous Facebook post about the Winter Carnival in Newcastle and GNE TAKING you there, but they can't bring you back as all the buses disappear by 7pm - when they can't be arsed to even SAY what the changes are (allegedly in response to the "consultation" it was almost impossible to find the forms for) weeks after they've been notified to Traffic Commissioners. They obviously know these changes, sorry ... reductions, aren't going to be popular.
(31 Dec 2013, 4:35 pm)Greg in Weardale What really pissed me off was them wasting time on a ridiculous Facebook post about the Winter Carnival in Newcastle and GNE TAKING you there, but they can't bring you back as all the buses disappear by 7pm - when they can't be arsed to even SAY what the changes are (allegedly in response to the "consultation" it was almost impossible to find the forms for) weeks after they've been notified to Traffic Commissioners. They obviously know these changes, sorry ... reductions, aren't going to be popular.
(31 Dec 2013, 4:08 pm)andreos1 Yup, as gtomlinson mentioned initially, it was the one for the 21 he was trying to remember.
(31 Dec 2013, 4:08 pm)andreos1 Yup, as gtomlinson mentioned initially, it was the one for the 21 he was trying to remember.
I do think it's a bit late to notify people, if it's Thursday 2nd Januray they announce changes it's still only 24 days until changes come into affect. I recall the 24th March 2013 changes been announced early Feburary and I think it's only right people are notified well in advance.
(31 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)CatsFast101 I do think it's a bit late to notify people, if it's Thursday 2nd January.
(31 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)CatsFast101 I do think it's a bit late to notify people, if it's Thursday 2nd January.
I have been looking into bus operators in and around Yorkshire and neighbouring areas and discovered something very interesting about a bus operator called Trent Barton, which is summarised in a quote below:
'the villager' services run south to Burton on Trent with the numbering system, V1, V2, V3 and V4 and a number of services run north towards Ilkeston and Heanor such as the 'black cat' and 'H1'.
Trentbarton also operate a number of express services around the East Midlands. These include:
'red arrow' service from Nottingham to Derby
'pronto' (operated jointly with Stagecoach) from Nottingham and Mansfield to Chesterfield
V1, V2, V3, V4 are also route numbers used for the GNE Venture network. Black Cats was a brand previously used by GNE and I believe there was also previously a H1 service/route. Red Arrows and Pronto are also brands both used by GNE. A coincidence?
(31 Dec 2013, 4:55 pm)Adam Malarkey EYMS 9168 YX08 FYG on Angel Service 22
http://www.flickr.com/photos/simplytrans...4232481982
Was this not the one gtomlinson was on about rather the 2 Brighton Examples
(31 Dec 2013, 4:55 pm)Adam Malarkey EYMS 9168 YX08 FYG on Angel Service 22
http://www.flickr.com/photos/simplytrans...4232481982
Was this not the one gtomlinson was on about rather the 2 Brighton Examples
(31 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)CatsFast101 I do think it's a bit late to notify people, if it's Thursday 2nd Januray they announce changes it's still only 24 days until changes come into affect. I recall the 24th March 2013 changes been announced early Feburary and I think it's only right people are notified well in advance.
(31 Dec 2013, 6:19 pm)peter I have been looking into bus operators in and around Yorkshire and neighbouring areas and discovered something very interesting about a bus operator called Trent Barton, which is summarised in a quote below:
'the villager' services run south to Burton on Trent with the numbering system, V1, V2, V3 and V4 and a number of services run north towards Ilkeston and Heanor such as the 'black cat' and 'H1'.
Trentbarton also operate a number of express services around the East Midlands. These include:
'red arrow' service from Nottingham to Derby
'pronto' (operated jointly with Stagecoach) from Nottingham and Mansfield to Chesterfield
V1, V2, V3, V4 are also route numbers used for the GNE Venture network. Black Cats was a brand previously used by GNE and I believe there was also previously a H1 service/route. Red Arrows and Pronto are also brands both used by GNE. A coincidence?
(31 Dec 2013, 5:54 pm)CatsFast101 I do think it's a bit late to notify people, if it's Thursday 2nd Januray they announce changes it's still only 24 days until changes come into affect. I recall the 24th March 2013 changes been announced early Feburary and I think it's only right people are notified well in advance.
(31 Dec 2013, 6:19 pm)peter I have been looking into bus operators in and around Yorkshire and neighbouring areas and discovered something very interesting about a bus operator called Trent Barton, which is summarised in a quote below:
'the villager' services run south to Burton on Trent with the numbering system, V1, V2, V3 and V4 and a number of services run north towards Ilkeston and Heanor such as the 'black cat' and 'H1'.
Trentbarton also operate a number of express services around the East Midlands. These include:
'red arrow' service from Nottingham to Derby
'pronto' (operated jointly with Stagecoach) from Nottingham and Mansfield to Chesterfield
V1, V2, V3, V4 are also route numbers used for the GNE Venture network. Black Cats was a brand previously used by GNE and I believe there was also previously a H1 service/route. Red Arrows and Pronto are also brands both used by GNE. A coincidence?
(31 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm)fozzovmurton As long as it is well advertised, then surely 3.5 weeks is ample time to become aware of changes, if they were only given 7 days that would be taking the piss, but 3 weeks in advance is a good amount of time
Dont know about conincidence, are any of the services you menioned anything to do with The Go-Ahead-Group?
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(31 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm)fozzovmurton As long as it is well advertised, then surely 3.5 weeks is ample time to become aware of changes, if they were only given 7 days that would be taking the piss, but 3 weeks in advance is a good amount of time
Dont know about conincidence, are any of the services you menioned anything to do with The Go-Ahead-Group?
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(31 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm)fozzovmurton As long as it is well advertised, then surely 3.5 weeks is ample time to become aware of changes, if they were only given 7 days that would be taking the piss, but 3 weeks in advance is a good amount of time
Dont know about conincidence, are any of the services you menioned anything to do with The Go-Ahead-Group?
(31 Dec 2013, 6:27 pm)fozzovmurton As long as it is well advertised, then surely 3.5 weeks is ample time to become aware of changes, if they were only given 7 days that would be taking the piss, but 3 weeks in advance is a good amount of time
Dont know about conincidence, are any of the services you menioned anything to do with The Go-Ahead-Group?
(31 Dec 2013, 6:38 pm)northtynelinks2 Nope, Trent Barton are part of the Wellglade Group along with Notts and Derby, Kinchbus and TM Travel who have nothing to do with the Go Ahead group.
(31 Dec 2013, 6:38 pm)northtynelinks2 Nope, Trent Barton are part of the Wellglade Group along with Notts and Derby, Kinchbus and TM Travel who have nothing to do with the Go Ahead group.
