(03 Oct 2020, 1:19 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I was reading the Skyscraper City forum this morning and noticed that a planning application to build 185 new homes in High Spen had recently been approved by Gateshead Council.
Post Link:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/g...-170025805
Link to Planning Application:
https://public.gateshead.gov.uk/online-a...USDHKMZO00&activeTab=summary
The map shows that the houses are to be built near Collingdon Road - just north of the Bute Arms and near to High Spen Bus Stand.
185 homes means probably 500 or more residents are going to be moving to the area. Collingdon Road is currently served by the 10A and R6 - the X47 disappears up the bank after the Bute Arms.
The purpose of this thread, I guess, is to discuss new building developments and their proximity to public transport links.
Is the current level of service enough or will High Spen merit a X47A in the near future?
(03 Oct 2020, 1:19 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I was reading the Skyscraper City forum this morning and noticed that a planning application to build 185 new homes in High Spen had recently been approved by Gateshead Council.
Post Link:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/g...-170025805
Link to Planning Application:
https://public.gateshead.gov.uk/online-a...USDHKMZO00&activeTab=summary
The map shows that the houses are to be built near Collingdon Road - just north of the Bute Arms and near to High Spen Bus Stand.
185 homes means probably 500 or more residents are going to be moving to the area. Collingdon Road is currently served by the 10A and R6 - the X47 disappears up the bank after the Bute Arms.
The purpose of this thread, I guess, is to discuss new building developments and their proximity to public transport links.
Is the current level of service enough or will High Spen merit a X47A in the near future?
(03 Oct 2020, 2:17 pm)Andreos1 wrote It will be interesting to see if there is an S106 and any associated support by the developer towards public transport.
An extra 185+ cars on the roads around there will be noticeable.
In the coalfields, there's an awful lot of house building, planning and pontificating going on.
In addition to the rebuilding of homes by Gentoo, work is going on behind The Beehive, off Sedgeletch Road, Lord Lambton's Estate, on the site of the old coke works at Bournmoor, Phili Yard, alongside Herrington Park and probably others that I've missed.
Forgetting local infrastructure and whether or not schools, GP surgeries etc can cope, I'm not aware of any S106 to increase public transport provision nor development to the existing network on a commercial basis by any operator.
Needless to say, the roads will not be able to cope with the inevitable increase in traffic across the area.
(03 Oct 2020, 3:03 pm)Rob44 wrote 2 new developments to the east and wast of Hazlerigg. Served by 44 arriva service. No extra buses and considering all house has 1 or more cars outside I don't think there would be a need for any!
(03 Oct 2020, 4:07 pm)Adrian wrote I fear that is the attitude that operators are taking, sad as it may seem! But you're never going to attract more people onto public transport, when they cannot get access to public transport.
(03 Oct 2020, 4:07 pm)Adrian wrote I fear that is the attitude that operators are taking, sad as it may seem! But you're never going to attract more people onto public transport, when they cannot get access to public transport.
(03 Oct 2020, 4:54 pm)MurdnunoC wrote A lot of new residents will have kids who'll need to use public transport until they're old enough to take driving lessons and get a car.
While I appreciate the freedom of having your own mode of motorised transport is extremely appealing to a seventeen-year-old, I think more needs to be done by bus operators to deter this from happening. After all, school children who are using public transport today are potentially your full-fare paying customers of tomorrow, and if the provision isn't there then they'll always opt for the utility of the car/bike/scooter over the bus.
(03 Oct 2020, 4:07 pm)Adrian wrote I fear that is the attitude that operators are taking, sad as it may seem! But you're never going to attract more people onto public transport, when they cannot get access to public transport.
(03 Oct 2020, 6:53 pm)Kuyoyo wrote When developers start to design their estates with public transport in mind, then maybe companies will change their minds!
(03 Oct 2020, 6:53 pm)Kuyoyo wrote When developers start to design their estates with public transport in mind, then maybe companies will change their minds!
(03 Oct 2020, 6:53 pm)Kuyoyo wrote When developers start to design their estates with public transport in mind, then maybe companies will change their minds!
(03 Oct 2020, 7:35 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I just noticed today that they're building a new estate in Tindale just off Greenfields Road, I wonder if, once it's completed, Weardale will see passenger numbers increase on the 9 enough to make GNE consider diverting the X21 back up that way (Assuming the B5s could even handle it)
Speaking of new things being built in Tindale, I wonder if they're ever going to start building that cinema and bowling alley. I believe it was supposed to open this month!
(03 Oct 2020, 8:18 pm)Andreos1 wrote The only thing stopping developers, is the developers.
I reckon its 15 years since developers decided they were going to build a cinema at the Galleries.
The land is still derelict.
(04 Oct 2020, 11:22 am)Adrian wrote The Leisure Phase plans officially went on display in 2014. I took some photos at the time: https://imgur.com/a/oFRr8Xn
(03 Oct 2020, 7:07 pm)streetdeckfan wrote The issue is the size of the roads, if they make the roads big enough for buses, they can't fit as many houses in. If they can't fit as many houses in, they make less money. If they make less money, they won't do it!If that's the case, then the aykley Woods development near the police station must only just be within that limit with the stops at the hospital.
Isn't there a planning condition in Durham that there must be a bus stop within 400m of any new development, and if there isn't the developer has to subsidise it?
(03 Oct 2020, 8:18 pm)Andreos1 wrote The only thing stopping developers, is the developers.It'll probably be derelict for a while longer with cine world's announcement, today.
I reckon its 15 years since developers decided they were going to build a cinema at the Galleries.
The land is still derelict.
(04 Oct 2020, 3:59 pm)BusLoverMum wrote If that's the case, then the aykley Woods development near the police station must only just be within that limit with the stops at the hospital.