(07 Jan 2021, 7:45 am)ASX_Terranova wrote Didnt the x20 go to shields at one point. Also the current 50 is one of my favourite routes. Here is a idea I had.
(07 Jan 2021, 1:45 pm)cbma06 wrote Yea the X20 used to go to shields using optares, Bus used to do x20 to shields then x50 shields to Durham then x20 to shields etc.., the 220 used to go to shields under the vfm brand (220 Durham to South Shields every 20 minutes) providing a 10 minute service with wear buses 220 between Sunderland and DurhamPlus there was the 537 as well
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(07 Jan 2021, 2:14 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Plus there was the 537 as well
(31 Jan 2021, 9:02 pm)L469 YVK wrote Suggestion based on the community engagement session the other day. Would increase PVR by 1x but re-instate the link without a loop to speak.Would this be similar to the 305 or not. What about when the X39 resumes.
- 41 Hadrian Park to Wallsend Metro only (PVR 3x) - evenings see below.
- 311 extended to Wallsend via Howdon (basically the old 40/41 route) - not evenings and Sundays with 41 staying in current form then.
- Evening & Sunday 311 withdrawn, Evening & Sunday 310 via Hadrian Park.
- 309 standalone on Sundays & Public Holidays to improve reliability and allow wiggle room for traffic on the Coast.
Operational Info:
- 41 PVR reduced by 1x to 3x.
- 309/311 PVR = 13x - Round trip off peak would be 4hr 40 mins.
- 310 PVR = 5x (now standalone)
- GPS destinations for 311 would be:
* Newcastle bound= 311 Hadrian Park / 311 Newcastle
* Wallsend bound= 311 Hadrian Park / 311 Wallsend
(31 Jan 2021, 10:06 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Would this be similar to the 305 or not. What about when the X39 resumes.Pretty much except that it would serve Holy Cross like the old 40/41 did.
(31 Jan 2021, 10:12 pm)L469 YVK wrote Pretty much except that it would serve Holy Cross like the old 40/41 did.
X39 is what I need to work out. I've done a suggestion timetable but will need to factor the X39 in.
Mornings should be straight forward but afternoons could be tricky. Obviously a regular service would need to run between Wallsend and Hadrian Park. Only the Hadrian Park-Newcastle section could be "reduced" for X39 workings.
(31 Jan 2021, 10:12 pm)L469 YVK wrote Pretty much except that it would serve Holy Cross like the old 40/41 did.
X39 is what I need to work out. I've done a suggestion timetable but will need to factor the X39 in as well as an extension to the 311.
Mornings should be straight forward but afternoons could be tricky. Obviously a regular service would need to run between Wallsend and Hadrian Park. Only the Hadrian Park-Newcastle section could be "reduced for the X39".
(01 Feb 2021, 4:11 am)MichealAaron wrote In my opinion I still see the 311 pointless. Reason why.Nothing too badly wrong with the 311. It serves it's purpose and also offers a higher combined frequency with the 309 & 310 at a reduced PVR (16 from 17) whilst also maintaining a Hadrian Park to Newcastle service.
1. It follows the 310 route to hadrian park
2. The 310 used to serve hadrian park on a nighttime and Sunday before the service 311 Sunday and evening route was introduced
3. I barely see anyone use the 311 to hadrian park. Most of them get of at Tyne Met or Coast road anyway or I might be missing something.
Going of the post about the 311 going to Wallsend now that I'd like to see
(01 Feb 2021, 5:12 pm)V514DFT wrote Touching on a previous suggestion,the best bet for a replacement for the Howdon section of the 41 would be replacing it with the Q3,or another idea could be extending the 42/42A since the 41 is every 30 mins around Howdon anyway,and the 42/42A is every 30 mins combined,think the 41 would have to stay to serve Wallsend,Battle Hill and Hadrian Park42/42A extension would be a sensible idea as long as there is enough running time. Would make more sense than extending the 311:
(01 Feb 2021, 8:05 pm)L469 YVK wrote 42/42A extension would be a sensible idea as long as there is enough running time. Would make more sense than extending the 311:Yeah,i just thought by doing that nobody is losing out that way, it would still be maintaining a 30 min frequency, rather than disturb the Q3 which is every 15 mins,and tbh Howdon doesnt really need a bus every 15 mins,just a bus that doesnt do something whacky like the current 41
- X39 & peak 309 workings could cause issues
- 2x extra minibuses vs 2x extra B9TLs? - fuel
(01 Feb 2021, 9:29 pm)MichealAaron wrote If the 42/42A was to be extended. At least they should be given a bus upgrade. Maybe use Scania CN230UB OmniCity or Scania OmniDekka. Would be nice to see a Scania OmniCity/ OmniDekka in the blue North Tyneside livery. Possibly upgrade the entire little coaster network with bigger busesthe only probelm would be the demand from customers, I don't think there is enough demand for this.
(13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)MichealAaron wrote I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the nameYou'd have to rebrand the 42 aswell,personally i dont know why it was ever branded 'little coaster', i wouldnt class North Shields as the Coast,so in my eyes the only one to fit with 'little coaster' is the 11,but thats a matter of opinion, tbh i think the whole 'little coaster' network is dead in the water now after all the changes that happened last year, hopefully (after covid dies down) GNE see sense and review it,but i wont hold my breath
(13 Feb 2021, 12:17 pm)MichealAaron wrote I think the 42A should be taken of little coaster and be rebranded to something different. Having something like MetroLink would be good as it serves Kingston Park metro, Bank Foot Metro, Callerton Parkway Metro, Airport Metro, Four Lane Ends, Metro, Wallsend Metro. I wouldn't class it as little coaster anymore. Maybe when it went to North Shields or am I missing the whole Coaster thing in the name