Extend 925 to Chester-Le-Street via Ayton, Lambton, Harraton, Rickleton & Picktree. 

Also here is attachment for the X17 mentioned a few posts ago.

(10 Apr 2021, 2:02 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Extend 925 to Chester-Le-Street via Ayton, Lambton, Harraton, Rickleton & Picktree.

Also here is attachment for the X17 mentioned a few posts ago.

Id have it enter Barley Mow and Vigo. Let it stop near the houses of the people visiting and working in the QE. Rather than have it skirt the estates and park up on the edge of Barley Mow for 10/15 mins at a time

(10 Apr 2021, 8:49 pm)Andreos1 wrote Id have it enter Barley Mow and Vigo. Let it stop near the houses of the people visiting and working in the QE. Rather than have it skirt the estates and park up on the edge of Barley Mow for 10/15 mins at a time

The X17 timetable i attached follows the 82 route from the tavistock to vigo bridge, would that help.

(09 Apr 2021, 1:09 pm)streetdeckfan wrote People still go out for their Christmas shopping?!

I think rather than providing a service between the main shopping centres they'd be better of focusing more on the out of town retail parks. As much as I like having a walk around the Metrocentre, if I'm actually doing some shopping I'll be going to a retail park as it's less of a faff carrying things around

The Metrocentre is literally the definition of an out of town retail park....and as it adapts it’ll still be heaving at peak times once restrictions lift, though it may be more back to its original experience shopping vs traditional shopping.

(10 Apr 2021, 10:05 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote The X17 timetable i attached follows the 82 route from the tavistock to vigo bridge, would that help.

It may do.
To be honest, I think the whole network in Birtley needs looking at. Whether it be the 81/82, the 25/925 or anything that isn't the 21.
So many one-way loops, duplications and replications (and not just along the Durham Road corridor) and many other areas reliant on taxibus or Nexus subsidies - despite its proximity to a number of key employment areas alongside what seems like a never-ending quest to build new housing.

A decent suggestion. Nexus service M71 withdrawn and replaced by service 74, running from Westerhope, then M71 route to Kingston Park and then X47 route to Eldon Square. At other times re-route service 72 from Westerhope to Kingston Park along Ponteland Road and then normal route to Newcastle. With services T1, T2 and T3 possibly getting withdrawn, other services could ve re-routed.

I'd love to see this.
48 Airport to Northumberland Park via Dinnington, Brunswick, Wideopen, Seaton Burn, Dudley, Northumberland Business Park, Annitsford, Killingworth, Backworth then into Northumberland Park

I think this would be a good addition for a few reasons.

Number one it gives a 30 minutes service between this and the 42A between Dinnington and Killingworth

Number two. I think it would profit with serving the Northumberland Business Park

Number 3 it would give people a better connection after Killingworth to get to Northumberland Park as the closest service there is the 54 and a quicker link to the metro

(10 Apr 2021, 8:49 pm)Andreos1 wrote Id have it enter Barley Mow and Vigo. Let it stop near the houses of the people visiting and working in the QE. Rather than have it skirt the estates and park up on the edge of Barley Mow for 10/15 mins at a time

I'd also have it go via Beacon Lough Road and Easedale Gardens to give that area a better service to the QE. They've got loads of layover time to play with so I'm sure it could be worked in to the timetable.

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(11 Apr 2021, 8:41 am)Andreos1 wrote It may do.
To be honest, I think the whole network in Birtley needs looking at. Whether it be the 81/82, the 25/925 or anything that isn't the 21.
So many one-way loops, duplications and replications (and not just along the Durham Road corridor) and many other areas reliant on taxibus or Nexus subsidies - despite its proximity to a number of key employment areas alongside what seems like a never-ending quest to build new housing.

The services around there have been decimated over the years. The estate around Windsor Road/Lansbury Drive used to have the 721/777 every 30 minutes, now it's just left with the 23. I'd suggest something like sending a 28/28A around there, even if it's only one an hour.

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(22 Apr 2021, 6:50 am)big mac wrote I'd also have it go via Beacon Lough Road and Easedale Gardens to give that area a better service to the QE.  They've got loads of layover time to play with so I'm sure it could be worked in to the timetable.

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The services around there have been decimated over the years.  The estate around Windsor Road/Lansbury Drive used to have the 721/777 every 30 minutes, now it's just left with the 23.  I'd suggest something like sending a 28/28A around there, even if it's only one an hour.

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Yeah, that Easedale Gardens one is a good shout.
Makes sense. Minutes from the Hospital, but two buses to get there.

As for Windsor Road, there was the OK 727 which went along there too.
Pretty sure the 184 did at one point as well.

Again, minutes from a key location (TVTE), but potentially 2 or 3 buses. Is there any wonder places like Lamesley is jam-packed with traffic (and delaying the 28a and 29), when people can't easily use public transport to key locations.

(22 Apr 2021, 1:35 am)Micheal Aaron Parker wrote I'd love to see this.
48 Airport to Northumberland Park via Dinnington, Brunswick, Wideopen, Seaton Burn, Dudley, Northumberland Business Park, Annitsford, Killingworth, Backworth then into Northumberland Park

I think this would be a good addition for a few reasons.

Number one it gives a 30 minutes service between this and the 42A between Dinnington and Killingworth

Number two. I think it would profit with serving the Northumberland Business Park

Number 3 it would give people a better connection after Killingworth to get to Northumberland Park as the closest service there is the 54 and a quicker link to the metro

Sounds like a good suggestion. I wonder if passenger numbers would be any good. A new service between Kingston Park/Dinnington and Northumberland Park would be a good addition. Providing another service for the Airport and Killingworth would be useful too.

I'm yet to ride the 42A to Killingworth from Kingston Park. The full route from Wallsend to Kingston Park is a nice ride out.

(22 Apr 2021, 11:25 am)OrangeArrow49 wrote Sounds like a good suggestion. I wonder if passenger numbers would be any good. A new service between Kingston Park/Dinnington and Northumberland Park would be a good addition. Providing another service for the Airport and Killingworth would be useful too.

I'm yet to ride the 42A to Killingworth from Kingston Park. The full route from Wallsend to Kingston Park is a nice ride out.

It's a really nice journey. I will give GNE credit as the 42A seems popular between killingworth and Four Lane Ends to Wallsend as I've seen a lot of people on it. It used to be Go North East longest route in running time

(22 Apr 2021, 10:20 am)Andreos1 wrote Yeah, that Easedale Gardens one is a good shout.
Makes sense. Minutes from the Hospital, but two buses to get there.

As for Windsor Road, there was the OK 727 which went along there too.
Pretty sure the 184 did at one point as well.

Again, minutes from a key location (TVTE), but potentially 2 or 3 buses. Is there any wonder places like Lamesley is jam-packed with traffic (and delaying the 28a and 29), when people can't easily use public transport to key locations.

For a place as big as the Team Valley in terms of the amount of workplaces, the bus service there seems completely inadequate. During the main part of the day it's literally only one service along Kingsway every 20 minutes.

One suggestion to at least give it something more would be to make the X32, which is currently only peak time, a regular all-day service. It would give the Team Valley a direct service to Newcastle during the day, and would still be about the same journey time as the x30/x31 from Newcastle to Stanley. It would also provide a quicker option from Newcastle to Ouston than the 28/28a currently provide.

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(22 Apr 2021, 11:47 am)Micheal Aaron Parker wrote It used to be Go North East longest route in running time

The X21 was their longest route at 110-120 minutes long, compared to 97 minutes on the 42A. Obviously it's now the X11 at 185 minutes.

(22 Apr 2021, 12:06 pm)omnicity4659 wrote The X21 was their longest route at 110-120 minutes long, compared to 97 minutes on the 42A. Obviously it's now the X11 at 185 minutes.

When the 42a used to go all the way tto north shields it must have been close to a 2 hours journey? I once got it from Shileds to Widopen and was sure i was aboard for more than 90 minutes

Bring back the 638 lol

Yea the 42A was the longest. A while ago I thought that the 1A from Metrocenter to Whitley Bay was the longest but it turned out in terms of time. The 42A from Shields to Kingston Park was the longest

(22 Apr 2021, 12:49 pm)idiot wrote Bring back the 638 lol

Agreed

And the "original 310" from sunderland to whitley/blyth

(22 Apr 2021, 12:35 pm)Rob44 wrote When the 42a used to go all the way tto north shields it must have been close to a 2 hours journey? I once got it from Shileds to Widopen and was sure i was aboard for more than 90 minutes

Didn't realise that it used to go to and from North Shields, my apologies!

(22 Apr 2021, 12:49 pm)idiot wrote Bring back the 638 lol

Absolute monster of a route.  Took about two hours from Crawcrook to Sunderland.

(22 Apr 2021, 1:19 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Didn't realise that it used to go to and from North Shields, my apologies!

Aye. It got withdrawn when Go North East handed the contract to GCT. GCT then extended there 335 to North Shields along the old 42/42A route and Go North East withdrawn the 42/42A between Wallsend and North Shields

Tried looking in bygone era for time of route but can't get access unfortunately.

(22 Apr 2021, 3:39 pm)idiot wrote Tried looking in bygone era for time of route but can't get access unfortunately.

this bloke describes his journey on the 638. might give you and idea of where it went

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/dow...umps.8685/

I know where it went I travelled the full length several times.

(22 Apr 2021, 4:43 pm)Rob44 wrote this bloke describes his journey on the 638. might give you and idea of where it went

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/dow...umps.8685/

Love the description of the lasses in Washington mind!

(22 Apr 2021, 5:30 pm)Andreos1 wrote Love the description of the lasses in Washington mind!

I wouldn't say winlaton was rough. My grandparents leive there all there life and when I visited never saw any bother at all

(22 Apr 2021, 1:35 am)Micheal Aaron Parker wrote I'd love to see this.
48 Airport to Northumberland Park via Dinnington, Brunswick, Wideopen, Seaton Burn, Dudley, Northumberland Business Park, Annitsford, Killingworth, Backworth then into Northumberland Park

I think this would be a good addition for a few reasons.

Number one it gives a 30 minutes service between this and the 42A between Dinnington and Killingworth

Number two. I think it would profit with serving the Northumberland Business Park

Number 3 it would give people a better connection after Killingworth to get to Northumberland Park as the closest service there is the 54 and a quicker link to the metro

Not sure there'd be much demand between Killingworth and Northumberland Park like. Can't see many people wanting to use the Metro towards the coast as most places are served by direct buses (Whitley 53 / Shields 54) and then people wanting it towards Sunderland etc will just use the 62/63 every 7.5 minutes towards Four Lane Ends or 52/54 every 15 minutes.

I know it doesn't serve Annitsford where you live but if you wanted another service between Dinnington and Killingworth I'd do something like this https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.03559...0?hl=en-US and give an actual sensible route between 2 places; you might even pick a few passengers from Wideopen going to Morrisons and it's another bus service for the 2 large housing estates being built at Gosforth Park which only have the X7/X8 atm rather than a meander up Dudley and through Annitsford etc.

(22 Apr 2021, 4:43 pm)Rob44 wrote this bloke describes his journey on the 638. might give you and idea of where it went

https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/dow...umps.8685/

this is brilliant!

(22 Apr 2021, 6:32 pm)Storx wrote Not sure there'd be much demand between Killingworth and Northumberland Park like. Can't see many people wanting to use the Metro towards the coast as most places are served by direct buses (Whitley 53 / Shields 54) and then people wanting it towards Sunderland etc will just use the 62/63 every 7.5 minutes towards Four Lane Ends or 52/54 every 15 minutes.

I know it doesn't serve Annitsford where you live but if you wanted another service between Dinnington and Killingworth I'd do something like this https://www.google.com/maps/dir/55.03559...0?hl=en-US and give an actual sensible route between 2 places; you might even pick a few passengers from Wideopen going to Morrisons and it's another bus service for the 2 large housing estates being built at Gosforth Park which only have the X7/X8 atm rather than a meander up Dudley and through Annitsford etc.

Wrong way round,the 53 serves Shields and the 54 serves Whitley,one big suggestion that stands out for me is the 319,maybe route the 42 along Great Lime Road like the 323 used to do,and Route the 42A via Forest Hall and Benton,and a new service doing the current 42A between Four Lane Ends and West Moor

Yea could see adding a new service along where the new housing is where the X7/X8 go. That would make a good connection route from Four Lane ends to Killingworth via that way

(22 Apr 2021, 6:48 pm)V514DFT wrote Wrong way round,the 53 serves Shields and the 54 serves Whitley,one big suggestion that stands out for me is the 319,maybe route the 42 along Great Lime Road like the 323 used to do,and Route the 42A via Forest Hall and Benton,and a new service doing the current 42A between Four Lane Ends and West Moor

Ah yeah always get them mixed up still stuck in my head with the 356 to Shields and 343/344 to Whitley.

Tbh does there even need to be a bus between FLE and West Moor. I know it's about connecting Quorum to Wallsend but can't see many people using it when it's hourly and there's a 15 minute service with the 62 and 22/40 if you really need it (most people will have to get to Wallsend anyway for the 42A).

The 42A should go North from Dudley imo like the old 101 used to do. Bar Killingworth it makes no sense for anyone South of there to use it to Kingston Park or the Airport as you can just get the Metro and I can't see there's a massive demand from Dinnington or Wideopen down there either.

It's a bit of a confused route with no real purpose for most of it especially when it's so out of GNE's operating area aswell so no-one will have day tickets / passes for it.