(27 Oct 2020, 2:53 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote How come Stagecoach's X78 is so much cheaper the Go North East's 74?
Go North East's day ticket is worth more than Stagecoach's as Go North East operate across more of the North East, the single fare should be the same though? a cheaper day ticket for just between Newcastle and Ponteland would be useful too!
(19 Apr 2021, 7:23 am)idiot wrote Having to get the bus to Springwell today as I need to get my stuff there for the week. I can cycle in for the rest of the week till my last day. I normally cycle all week but it's a hell of a climb into Springwell with all the luggage on the bike.
But yet again occasional users are penalised.
£6.70 for a return (to SoL) . Day ticket since I couldn't get two zones anymore was £7.
(20 Apr 2021, 11:26 am)idiot wrote Yes was Gateshead.
I cycled today and beat the bus timing by 14 mins. Boom!
(20 Apr 2021, 1:03 pm)MurdnunoC wrote I can achieve a similar timing to the bus when cycling from Rowlands Gill to Newcastle. Cycling back takes slightly longer though not by much.
When the bus can barely compete against a bike, it makes you wonder about how it can compete against bikes, e-bikes, e-scooters, and whatnot in the future?
(20 Apr 2021, 3:15 pm)NewcastleOne wrote As they are Stagecoach duplicates I will presume you need a Stagecoach ticket.
Also didn’t you just ask this?
(20 Apr 2021, 3:25 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote My apologies, I thought maybe this was a better thread for my question. I'm not sure if just anyone can board the duplicate services provided by GNE, but maybe a Stagecoach ticket would be valid for travel on them if so.
(17 May 2021, 11:28 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Stagecoach is now £4.70 for Tyne & Wear and £4.30 for Newcastle (including Wallsend and Metrocentre). Travelling across the rest of Tyne & Wear required a Day Rover. Durham and Northumberland requires an Explorer. Stagecoach haven't introduced any new tickets for years, and keep putting their fares up.
Go North East is £5.30 for the Purple GoZone covering Newcastle, Gateshead, North Tyneside, Cramlington, Ashington etc (with local tickets being even cheaper), or £7 for all GoZones (Tyne & Wear, Durham and Northumberland). 5 to 25 tickets and Flexi 5 tickets on the app offer alternative, cheaper options. Now there is also the £1 evening fare, another new ticket from GNE after the 5 to 25, and then 24 Hour and Flexi 5 tickets were introduced.
I think Stagecoach's fares are extortionate.
Better fares are needed for Durham and Northumberland for Arriva customers, and multi-operator customers (bus companies, Metro, ferry etc.) but GNE offers good value for money across Tyne & Wear, Durham and Northumberland if customers have the option to use only GNE buses, like I do.
(17 May 2021, 11:50 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I live on the very edge of GNE's area in Bishop, right in the middle of Arriva's territory, unless I want to travel somewhere along the X21, I have to use Arriva.
Honestly, even if they didn't introduce multi-operator tickets, but instead just kept the mutual ticket acceptance on common routes (like the GNE X21 and Arriva 6 which are pretty much duplicates from Durham to West Auckland), I'd be fine with it.
If GNE can't be arsed to run the X21 to West Auckland on evenings and Sundays, then I should at least be able to use my GNE ticket on the Arriva service!
There's all this talk about the Durham Smartzone ticket, but if the other SmartZone tickets are anything to go by, it's not going to be any use for me.
What I really want is a ticket that I can use in Tyne and Wear and County Durham, on any operator. I know there's the Explorer, but then I'm also paying to be able to go to Northumberland, Carlisle, and Scarborough, places I have no need to go.
(17 May 2021, 11:28 pm)OrangeArrow49 wrote Stagecoach is now £4.70 for Tyne & Wear and £4.30 for Newcastle (including Wallsend and Metrocentre). Travelling across the rest of Tyne & Wear required a Day Rover. Durham and Northumberland requires an Explorer. Stagecoach haven't introduced any new tickets for years, and keep putting their fares up.Depends on where you live really. I'm in GNE red zone and quite close to a border. I can go to Sunderland for cheap but to get to Newcastle it is 2 zones vs Stagecoach £4.70 day rider. So my area SNE os the value for money.
Go North East is £5.30 for the Purple GoZone covering Newcastle, Gateshead, North Tyneside, Cramlington, Ashington etc (with local tickets being even cheaper), or £7 for all GoZones (Tyne & Wear, Durham and Northumberland). 5 to 25 tickets and Flexi 5 tickets on the app offer alternative, cheaper options. Now there is also the £1 evening fare, another new ticket from GNE after the 5 to 25, and then 24 Hour and Flexi 5 tickets were introduced.
I think Stagecoach's fares are extortionate.
Better fares are needed for Durham and Northumberland for Arriva customers, and multi-operator customers (bus companies, Metro, ferry etc.) but GNE offers good value for money across Tyne & Wear, Durham and Northumberland if customers have the option to use only GNE buses, like I do.
(18 May 2021, 7:42 am)ifm001 wrote Depends on where you live really. I'm in GNE red zone and quite close to a border. I can go to Sunderland for cheap but to get to Newcastle it is 2 zones vs Stagecoach £4.70 day rider. So my area SNE os the value for money.
(18 May 2021, 9:27 am)tcts24 wrote
Again, the Explorer is brilliant for what it is and I did used to have a bus day out once per week with one. I eventually tired of the constant aguments with Arriva drivers reluctant to accept a Go-Ahead Explorer because they wont scan through thier machines. Go-Ahead drivers (especially Deptford for some reason) didn't like Arriva tickets because they didn't scan through their ticket machines. Stagecoach drivers were generally okay, but the odd one were not happy because it wasn't a Stagecoach ticket. And I never even dared attempt to use one on a Scarlet Band contracted route, which I'm led to believe is possible but not exactly well advertised. Only Metro and Ferry consistantly accepted it without a challenge.
And that's ultimately what generally stops me from being a regular bus user.
(18 May 2021, 7:42 am)ifm001 wrote Depends on where you live really. I'm in GNE red zone and quite close to a border. I can go to Sunderland for cheap but to get to Newcastle it is 2 zones vs Stagecoach £4.70 day rider. So my area SNE os the value for money.
(18 May 2021, 10:00 am)Ianthegoon wrote Surprised at the issues you seem to have had with Explorer acceptance - I've travelled widely across the North-east, invariably using the Explorer as I want to have freedom to use any services of the three main operators, and I don't think there have been any cross-operator issues at all. Sure, the drivers peer fairly closely at it, then moan because the critical information is printed in a different place by their rivals to where their version would have it, but never a problem with validity.
(18 May 2021, 8:58 am)streetdeckfan wrote For me, it depends on where I'm wanting to go.In 2015 a Stagecoach driver in Sunderland saw my Explorer purchased on an Arriva bus and immediately said my ticket was not valid. I mentioned it was an Explorer then he was ok.
If I'm just going a few stops, Arriva are usually cheaper. For me to get into Bishop it's £1.40 with Arriva and I believe £1.50 with GNE. But if I'm going further afield like Durham, GNE are cheaper because of the 5-25 day ticket only being £4.50.
It's the main reason I still spend a lot of time up in Newcastle, it's actually cheaper for me than going to Darlington, which is half the distance and a third of the time!
It's also cheaper for me to visit a friend in Hexham (37 miles) than it is for me to visit my mother in Crook (7 miles), once again, it only costs me £4.50 to get to Hexham and back, but it'd be £4.90 to Crook with Arriva
(23 May 2021, 4:01 pm)idiot wrote There is one stagecoach driver in particular who isn't very nice imo. I once had a Go North East issued day rover and he immediately said its not valid where u going? I simply said yes it is and he said no it isn't. I then stated it was a day rover. No apology but let me on.Aha I'm gonna admit this. I've had that on tons of drivers. Especially when I used to get the 53 to Palmersvill then the metro to town then the 25 to Eighton Banks. The 25 driver would always say that I couldn't get on.
(23 May 2021, 7:31 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote Aha I'm gonna admit this. I've had that on tons of drivers. Especially when I used to get the 53 to Palmersvill then the metro to town then the 25 to Eighton Banks. The 25 driver would always say that I couldn't get on.
Another case being using a day rover on the 308 to Whitly Bay and then the 42 from Benton Asda to Wallsend. Yea I've had a few times the driver have said its not valid. All because of the "who issued" the ticket
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