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Malarkey   07 Jan 2014, 12:06 am
CH1 - Cardinal Hume -Gateshead Interchange

CH2 - Cardinal Hume - Wrekenton - Springwell Village - Leam Lane Estate - Heworth

CH3 - Cardinal Hume - Wrekenton - Springwell - Donwell - Concord - Albany - Washington Galleries

CH4 - Cardinal Hume - Wrekenton - Eighton Banks - Birtley - Chester le Street
BJ10VUS   07 Jan 2014, 2:08 pm
(06 Jan 2014, 11:35 pm)Michael wrote Just Northern, not sure what buses they will use, dont think its being confirmed what they will use

It's Solars according to the timetable, but I guess we'll have to wait and see?
Malarkey   08 Jan 2014, 4:36 pm
311 - Cramlington - Seaton Delaval - Holywell - Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Battle Hill Drive - Coast Road - Newcastle – Every 20 Minutes

Newcastle to Cobalt – 24 Minutes
Cobalt to Cramlington – 32 Minutes
Total = 56 Minutes

The Competition – Journey Times Between Newcastle and Cramlington

Arriva 43 = 37 Minutes
Arriva 52 = 46 Minutes
Arriva X5 = 67 Minutes - 72 Minutes (Peak Times)
Arriva X10/X11 = 27 Minutes
Arriva X13 = 53 Minutes

I think a wise move would be to go Head2Head with the Arriva 52, but on an Increased Frequency of Every 20 Minutes as Stated Above
Tom   08 Jan 2014, 4:39 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:36 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote 311 - Cramlington - Seaton Delaval - Holywell - Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Battle Hill Drive - Coast Road - Newcastle – Every 20 Minutes

Newcastle to Cobalt – 24 Minutes
Cobalt to Cramlington – 32 Minutes
Total = 56 Minutes

The Competition – Journey Times Between Newcastle and Cramlington

Arriva 43 = 37 Minutes
Arriva 52 = 56 Minutes
Arriva X5 = 72 Minutes
Arriva X10/X11 = 53 Minutes
Arriva X13 = 55 Minutes

I think a wise move would be to go Head2Head with the Arriva 52, but on an Increased Frequency of Every 20 Minutes as Stated Above

X10 or X11 isn't 55 minutes, the X5 isn't 72 mins, I can tell you that for a fact ;-)
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Tom   08 Jan 2014, 4:40 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:39 pm)Tom wrote X10 or X11 isn't 55 minutes, the X5 isn't 72 mins, I can tell you that for a fact ;-)

Neither is the X13 55 minutes.
Malarkey   08 Jan 2014, 4:44 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:40 pm)Tom wrote Neither is the X13 55 minutes.

Took the Timings off the Arriva Website, Can't be that far off unless I have made a Typo Error
citaro5284   08 Jan 2014, 4:46 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:39 pm)Tom wrote X10 or X11 isn't 55 minutes, the X5 isn't 72 mins, I can tell you that for a fact ;-)

X5 is 67 minutes daytime, X10/X11 is 54 minutes, so he is pretty close with 55 Tongue
Malarkey   08 Jan 2014, 4:48 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:46 pm)citaro5284 wrote X5 is 67 minutes daytime, X10/X11 is 54 minutes, so he is pretty close with 55 Tongue

Yeah That's Correct, With X5 I noted the 7am Departure from Blyth which takes 72 Minutes, and I have most likely done the same with the others also, My Bad
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Tom   08 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:46 pm)citaro5284 wrote X5 is 67 minutes daytime, X10/X11 is 54 minutes, so he is pretty close with 55 Tongue

55 from Newcastle to Cramlington on the X10/X11? It's only about 25. It says ''journey times from Cramlington to Newcastle''?
Malarkey   08 Jan 2014, 5:03 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm)Tom wrote 55 from Newcastle to Cramlington on the X10/X11? It's only about 25. It says ''journey times from Cramlington to Newcastle''?

http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/serviceInform...x?id=19131
Tom   08 Jan 2014, 5:05 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 5:03 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote http://www.arrivabus.co.uk/serviceInform...x?id=19131

27 minutes from Cramlington to Newcastle?
Malarkey   08 Jan 2014, 5:09 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 5:05 pm)Tom wrote 27 minutes from Cramlington to Newcastle?

Shit, Just realised I put the Timings in for Blyth rather than Cramlington on that one, Apologies Tom.
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Tom   08 Jan 2014, 5:09 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 5:09 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Shit, Just realised I put the Timings in for Blyth rather than Cramlington on that one, Apologies Tom.

Ah right, thought it was a big jump from 27 to 54 hehe! - No problem Big Grin
Malarkey   08 Jan 2014, 5:10 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 4:36 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote 311 - Cramlington - Seaton Delaval - Holywell - Northumberland Park - Cobalt - Battle Hill Drive - Coast Road - Newcastle – Every 20 Minutes

Newcastle to Cobalt – 24 Minutes
Cobalt to Cramlington – 32 Minutes
Total = 56 Minutes

The Competition – Journey Times Between Newcastle and Cramlington

Arriva 43 = 37 Minutes
Arriva 52 = 46 Minutes
Arriva X5 = 67 Minutes - 72 Minutes (Peak Times)
Arriva X10/X11 = 27 Minutes
Arriva X13 = 53 Minutes

I think a wise move would be to go Head2Head with the Arriva 52, but on an Increased Frequency of Every 20 Minutes as Stated Above

All should now have Correct Timings, Back on topic, what do you think my proposed 311 Service
Tom   08 Jan 2014, 5:16 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 5:10 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote All should now have Correct Timings, Back on topic, what do you think my proposed 311 Service

I like it. Only thing is, the 19 already operates from Cramlington to Cobalt, but is it popular to justify a additional service? I don't know.
WestDurhamSwift   08 Jan 2014, 8:31 pm
In regards to the Quaylink, can Go North East Edit the route or is it up to the Council/Nexus Etc
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Adrian   08 Jan 2014, 8:44 pm
(08 Jan 2014, 8:31 pm)Ely1992 wrote In regards to the Quaylink, can Go North East Edit the route or is it up to the Council/Nexus Etc

As with other Nexus Bus routes, completely up to Nexus as far as I understand. Obviously subject to lobbying by the councillors/councils though.

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WestDurhamSwift   09 Jan 2014, 10:28 am
(08 Jan 2014, 8:44 pm)aureolin wrote As with other Nexus Bus routes, completely up to Nexus as far as I understand. Obviously subject to lobbying by the councillors/councils though.

Just curious, I use the Q2 alot and its busy into Newcastle, back the other way though theres hardly anybody on, 3/4 full at peak times if lucky going towards St Peters Basin, always thought personally if it served Byker it might get a few more people, especially the route it goes, although Quaylink would be pointless
Andreos1   09 Jan 2014, 10:47 am
(09 Jan 2014, 10:28 am)Ely1992 wrote Just curious, I use the Q2 alot and its busy into Newcastle, back the other way though theres hardly anybody on, 3/4 full at peak times if lucky going towards St Peters Basin, always thought personally if it served Byker it might get a few more people, especially the route it goes, although Quaylink would be pointless

Although the pvr would increase (or frequency would drop), it would make sense (in my mind anyway) to extend the q2 from St Peters up to Byker - even if it was just at certain times of the day.

Surprised there hasn't been a loud voice from inside the Civic Centre making representations.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Adrian   09 Jan 2014, 10:50 am
(09 Jan 2014, 10:47 am)andreos1 wrote Although the pvr would increase (or frequency would drop), it would make sense (in my mind anyway) to extend the q2 from St Peters up to Byker - even if it was just at certain times of the day.

Surprised there hasn't been a loud voice from inside the Civic Centre making representations.

It'd make little sense as the Q2 covers a route that Metro doesn't. Byker to City Centre already has a high frequency of services combined, not to mention the Metro.

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Andreos1   09 Jan 2014, 11:01 am
(09 Jan 2014, 10:50 am)aureolin wrote It'd make little sense as the Q2 covers a route that Metro doesn't. Byker to City Centre already has a high frequency of services combined, not to mention the Metro.

I was thinking about the link that doesn't exist between the riverside, St Peters and Byker.

Edit: scrap that, just remembered about the 18 Wallsend to Forest Hall via Walker, St Peters and Byker. Pretty sure there is a shoppers bus to the retail park too

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
WestDurhamSwift   09 Jan 2014, 11:20 am
Remember years ago when Stagecoach 34 went along walker road and down onto the Quay.
Andreos1   09 Jan 2014, 11:55 am
(09 Jan 2014, 11:20 am)Ely1992 wrote Remember years ago when Stagecoach 34 went along walker road and down onto the Quay.

Vaguely.
Can remember there was a bus or two that went along that way, but no idea what number it was.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
BJ10VUS   09 Jan 2014, 8:16 pm
(09 Jan 2014, 11:55 am)andreos1 wrote Vaguely.
Can remember there was a bus or two that went along that way, but no idea what number it was.

Think Go North East used to run a 106 through St Peter's and Ouseburn to Newcastle and Walker?
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Malarkey   10 Jan 2014, 6:57 pm
2B - Sunderland – Royal Hospital – Pallion – Sunderland Enterprise Park – Waterview Park - Teal Farm – Nissan – Sulgrave – Concord – Washington Comprehensive School – Barmston – Washington Village - Glebe – Washington Galleries – Every 30 Minutes Replacing Service 73

27X – Jarrow – Hebburn – Heworth – Gateshead Interchange – Newcastle City Centre – Every 1 Hour

71 – Newcastle – Gateshead – Q.E. Hospital – Wrekenton – Eighton Banks – Birtley - Chester-le-Street - Great Lumley - Fence Houses Popular Front - Houghton-le-Spring – Hetton-le-Hole - Murton - Dalton Park - Murton - Seaham Harbour – Every 30 Minutes
gtom   10 Jan 2014, 7:06 pm
71 a MM classic
MrFozz   10 Jan 2014, 7:10 pm
(10 Jan 2014, 6:57 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote 2B - Sunderland – Royal Hospital – Pallion – Sunderland Enterprise Park – Waterview Park - Teal Farm – Nissan – Sulgrave – Concord – Washington Comprehensive School – Barmston – Washington Village - Glebe – Washington Galleries – Every 30 Minutes Replacing Service 73

27X – Jarrow – Hebburn – Heworth – Gateshead Interchange – Newcastle City Centre – Every 1 Hour

71 – Newcastle – Gateshead – Q.E. Hospital – Wrekenton – Eighton Banks – Birtley - Chester-le-Street - Great Lumley - Fence Houses Popular Front - Houghton-le-Spring – Hetton-le-Hole - Murton - Dalton Park - Murton - Seaham Harbour – Every 30 Minutes

Turning back on itself after DP Tongue

Only problem I have with that is time, how long will that take, now if it was an express service...obviously it could not be X71...so how about this...

New X93 Newcastle-MetroCentre-Birtley-Chester-le-Street-Fencehouses-Houghton-Hetton-Murton-Dalton Park-Seaham 1ph

Renumber your idea X94 change it to 1ph and run it express between Newcastle-Wrekenton-Chester and so on

Run them 30 mins combined to keep in with your every half hour suggestion Wink
gtom   10 Jan 2014, 7:39 pm
Birtley does not need a link to anywhere else, especially not Hetton or Dalton Park.

Seems a bit OTT
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Malarkey   10 Jan 2014, 9:14 pm
(10 Jan 2014, 7:39 pm)gtomlinson wrote Birtley does not need a link to anywhere else, especially not Hetton or Dalton Park.

Seems a bit OTT

That's like saying Pelton doesn't need a link to Rickleton, but it has one doesn't it, My general thought for the 71 was making it more commercially viable Service by extending it in both Directions without following the 21 to Newcastle, so I opted for the X25 Route in that Direction, I did also consider extending to Sunderland from Houghton, but that would be pointless as there is Numerous Services unless it was to follow the 238 Route to Sunderland, But then I thought it would again be Pointless so I decided to extend it via Hetton and Dalton Park to Seaham as I thought it would be more Profitable for GNE.
cbma06   12 Jan 2014, 6:48 pm
Since the 20/20a and X35 just getting normal upgrades like the Loop Brand has, then if Double deckers get purchased for service 35 and 27, then the citarios from the 35/27 could be cascaded onto either Limes, Highwayman or Fab57.

Also since service 39 will not come under the simplicity brand then the versas could go to Washington for service W5/W6 etc... and those cadets could join other cadets at Deptford, so service 39 could become all cadets while service 29 will all be scanias.


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