(01 Jul 2021, 7:59 pm)big mac wrote I remember the 637 probably in the early 2000s that went from Wardley to Ryton via the QE and Dunston.
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(01 Jul 2021, 7:59 pm)big mac wrote I remember the 637 probably in the early 2000s that went from Wardley to Ryton via the QE and Dunston.
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(01 Jul 2021, 8:07 pm)Andreos1 wrote https://northeastbuses.co.uk/bygone/inde...eQuery=637&submit.x=10&submit.y=8
Just found this in the bygone era.
The Washington link had obviously gone by this stage, but I think this one passed me by.
Can remember the 638 (magical thing that it was) and the 639 (decker between Winlaton and Ellen Wilkinson Est via Low Fell and Beacon Lough). Can remember the 648 and 649 too
(01 Jul 2021, 8:16 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote Following on from the Washington Debate I have made a service idea list which i think covers everything (forget the numbers i did those from a independents view).
Frequency, Allocation & PVR
201/202 (Combined Every 15 Mins): Enviro 200 MMC 8.9m (PVR of 4 or 5)
203/204 (Combined Every 15 Mins): Enviro 200 MMC 9.6m (PVR of 7 or 8)
205/206 (Hourly Clockwise, Hourly Anticlockwise): Optare Solo SR (PVR of 2)
207/208 (Hourly Clockwise, Hourly Anticlockwise): Optare Solo SR (PVR of 2)
210 (Up to Every 12 Minutes): Optare Versa or Metrocity (PVR of 11 or 12)
I would also be greatful if anybody would be kind enough to give me any blank bus designs so i could create visual brands and colours for these.
(01 Jul 2021, 8:21 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Two different services. The following is taken from a timetable from January 1994.
(01 Jul 2021, 10:03 am)Andreos1 wrote Always get mixed up with the 2/2a. Are they not circulars any more?
Unless I need to get off on a unique section (and check with the driver if it goes to Shiney or not), I tend to just board whichever version comes first.
The loop roads are funny things. Apart from Fallowfield Way and the back of Barmston, I'm not sure of any that have suitable places to stop. Hail & ride or otherwise.
There's either bends or some sort of camber on most of the ones I can think of.
I agree that it should be an option. But whether it could be or not, not sure.
(01 Jul 2021, 10:32 am)ASX_Terranova wrote In regards to the loop roads, why did the services stop.
I also think a taxibus would probably work for these areas.
I'm also going to make a suggestion for another washington taxibus (see attachment).
(01 Jul 2021, 11:21 am)Adrian wrote I disagree with you there. The Little Pinks network is clearly designed around operational efficiency, rather than the customer. There are still a number of issues that exist from when the Galleries split first happened.
The Galleries terminus still allows through-fares, but it is not possible to get a return fare, other than from Concord. For example, the 84 becomes an 82 at the Galleries and continues to Birtley, but on the return leg, that 82 becomes an 83 at the Galleries and serves a completely different set of stops between the Galleries and Concord. As there's no route saver tickets available, nor an area saver that covers the whole route, it leaves you needing a Purple Zone Go Zones ticket to cover the return journey via 3 buses.
Despite the through-journeys still existing, they are no longer advertised on the GNE timetable and have never been shown on the bus stop timetables (Nexus advised me that it wasn't possible, as they print timetables to the same standard throughout the network). So only those with knowledge of the services will know they don't have to get onto another bus at the Galleries. This isn't helpful to customers, especially those that infrequently use buses.
(01 Jul 2021, 5:10 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Here are two maps of Washington from 1989 and 1993 respectively.
(02 Jul 2021, 4:53 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote New Suggestion X9/X10 to Serve Washington Galleries. Given the fact it can be diverted through washington if high A19 congestion it wouldnt add much time on.
(03 Jul 2021, 10:52 am)ASX_Terranova wrote We need an alt service to the X1 for Washington - Newcastle. Something to allow the X1 to avoid recover from delays and busy services. The service could either go via the Metrocentre or Saltwell Park.
(02 Jul 2021, 10:15 pm)6049 wrote Return fares are possible on Little Pinks. The ticket machines give options for Heworth, Concord etc to be set even if the service in theory terminates at The Galleries. In theory, if someone purchased a return on the 82 from Birtley to Heworth, they'd be able to change to the next 84 at The Galleries and continue their journey. In reality, the journey isn't the quickest so the majority would use the 82 into Birtley then change to a 21 to get to Gateshead which off the top of my head would be quicker to connect to the Metro at Gateshead.
(03 Jul 2021, 11:43 am)Adrian wrote A return portion of a ticket is single use, so the QR code won't work/be valid if you changed at the Galleries to continue your return, or your ticket will be punched, if that still happens. Customer services have previously confirmed to me that it is not a valid option.I didnt think there was a need to change buses, I thought the number changed once it got to galleries. Therefore no need to scan return ticket twice
(03 Jul 2021, 11:46 am)JP6004 wrote I didnt think there was a need to change buses, I thought the number changed once it got to galleries. Therefore no need to scan return ticket twice
(03 Jul 2021, 11:43 am)Adrian wrote A return portion of a ticket is single use, so the QR code won't work/be valid if you changed at the Galleries to continue your return, or your ticket will be punched, if that still happens. Customer services have previously confirmed to me that it is not a valid option.
(03 Jul 2021, 10:52 am)ASX_Terranova wrote We need an alt service to the X1 for Washington - Newcastle. Something to allow the X1 to avoid recover from delays and busy services. The service could either go via the Metrocentre or Saltwell Park.How about extending the 4 to Newcastle?
(03 Jul 2021, 1:10 pm)big mac wrote How about extending the 4 to Newcastle?
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(03 Jul 2021, 1:10 pm)big mac wrote How about extending the 4 to Newcastle?
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(03 Jul 2021, 1:40 pm)Andreos1 wrote They've tried it a few times in its previous guise as the 194.Did it not work because of reliability issues or not enough passengers?
As handy as it was, it never seemed to work and it reverted back to terminating at Heworth.
Ditto the 191. That never lasted long either. Although that may have been down to frequency and it shadowing the 194 and 294 for a large portion of the route.
(03 Jul 2021, 11:41 am)cbma06 wrote Will it just add more time going via metrocentre or saltwell park? , should split the x1 into x1 and x2, x2 doing the old x94 route between Hetton bus station and galleries then non stop to concord then old x95 route to Newcastle , it would give passengers in concord area a faster service to Gateshead/Newcastle?
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