(04 Jul 2021, 11:06 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote If it is a resurrection of the original Busways 26, it ran Seaburn – Southwick – Red House – Downhill – Town End Farm – Hylton Castle – Southwick – Seaburn as one way loop so Downhill may just be referenced as a point at one extremity of the loop.

That seems canny but I'm not sure why the council want it - just another bunch of money they're wasting, if it popular then I'll admit I was wrong.



The rest of the changes seem to be timetable changes, look like the services are going back to pre-covid times.

Sunderland:
3/12/13 - Revised timetables. Service 3 and 13 daytime frequency restored to operate every 20 minutes.
4 - Revised timetables. Weekend frequencies are uplifted/amended.
20 - Revised timetables. Weekend frequencies are uplifted/amended.
16 - Revised timetables. Minor timing changes on Monday-Friday. Sunday daytime frequency restored to operate every 20 minutes.
23 - Revised timetables and route. Sunday daytime trips extended from Dene Estate to Seaburn Morrisons.


Newcastle:
1 - Revised schedules Monday to Saturday, every 10 minutes, for summer university holiday period. Nexus fully support short notice application.
10/11 (Newcastle) - Revised timetables. Uplifting daily evenings and Sunday daytime timetables to support relaxing of Covid restrictions. Nexus support application
38/38A - Revised timetables. Uplift of daily evenings and Sunday daytime timetables to support relaxing of Covid restrictions. Nexus support application
39/40 - Revised timetable: Sunday daytime frequency restored to every 20 minutes on each route - every 10 minutes on common sections. Nexus support application
X47 - Uplift of Sunday daytime services to support relaxing of Covid restrictions. Nexus support application
X87/X88 - Uplift of Sunday daytime services to support relaxing of Covid restrictions. Nexus support application

(02 Jul 2021, 12:02 pm)Michael wrote On VOSA today (under the operators list), changes in Sunderland from 18th July 2021

PB0002404/48
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 23 (23) Dene Estate Thorney Close

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3838A (38, 38A) Whickham View Freeman Hospital

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 100 (100) Newcastle Metrocentre

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 4su (4) Downhill Doxford Park

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 16 (16) Red House Estate Hastings Hill

PB0002404/20
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 313 (12, 13, 3) Town End Farm, Hylton Castle Doxford Park, Farringdon

PB0002404/15
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X87X88 (X87, X88) Eldon Square Eldon Square

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 3940 (39, 40) Chapel House or Dumpling Hall Wallsend or Walker

PB0002404/19
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 20 (20) Fawcett Street Pennywell

PB0002404/278
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD X47 (X47) Newcastle City Centre Kingston Park

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Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1011n (10, 11) West Denton or West Denton Park North Kenton

PB0002404/1
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 1 (1) Slatyford Coach Lane or Cobalt



Along with a new 19 service.... Downhill to Seaburn, looks like its only running till September.


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They aren't airshow related, as its cancelled this year due to COVID.


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PB0002404/19
Variation BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 20 (20) Fawcett Street Pennywell

New 19 timetable on bustimes.org

https://bustimes.org/services/19-sunderl...ll-seaburn

Running hourly, 7 days a week

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Other timetables are on bustimes.org

No changes to the 12,22,62/63 then

(06 Jul 2021, 9:23 am)V514DFT wrote No changes to the 12,22,62/63 then

Not at the minute


PVR for the new 19 is 2 - wonder if the MAN Enviro's will be used on it

Is the 19, not what the old Redby 9, then 99 and subsequently Nexus 99 used to be.  Surprised Nexus haven't just revised the 99 to incorporate it.  But on the other hand, good on stagecoach for trialling.

https://northeastbuses.co.uk/bygone/asse...rd2001.jpg

Looks like the 4 Thorney close to Downhill and the 22 from Doxford Park to Dene estate isn’t happening

(06 Jul 2021, 6:45 pm)Michael wrote Not at the minute


PVR for the new 19 is 2 - wonder if the MAN Enviro's will be used on it

PVR 1 not 2

(06 Jul 2021, 7:24 pm)ifm001 wrote Is the 19, not what the old Redby 9, then 99 and subsequently Nexus 99 used to be.  Surprised Nexus haven't just revised the 99 to incorporate it.  But on the other hand, good on stagecoach for trialling.

Was trying to attach a copy of the old Busways 26 timetable to show the similarity but cant seem to figure out how to do it!

(06 Jul 2021, 11:30 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Was trying to attach a copy of the old Busways 26 timetable to show the similarity but cant seem to figure out how to do it!

I can't ever remember a Busways 26 going that way.  I can remember the 26 going CBS - Fulwell - Seaburn South Bents.  Then that got withdrawn and new 26 went Sunderland to Pallion via Chester Road I believe.Not sure which 26 your referring to otherwise.

(07 Jul 2021, 5:27 am)ifm001 wrote I can't ever remember a Busways 26 going that way.  I can remember the 26 going CBS - Fulwell - Seaburn South Bents.  Then that got withdrawn and new 26 went Sunderland to Pallion via Chester Road I believe.Not sure which 26 your referring to otherwise.

I remember the 26 from north estates to Seaburn, I think it was about early 90’s era, it only ran on Sunday’s only in summer holidays, it got changed to the 36 ( I think it only ran for 1 summer season before it got withdrawn totally) when a normal service 26 was put on between Sunderland and Seaburn canp , this was well before stagecoach took over


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I may be wrong but the 26 I remember from my teens was cbs to St Peters. Late 90s early 00s maybe lol.

(07 Jul 2021, 7:07 am)idiot wrote I may be wrong but the 26 I remember from my teens was cbs to St Peters. Late 90s early 00s maybe lol.

Yea that 26 was the last incarnation of the 26, Pallion Forge to St Peters via town, there should be some timetables in the bygone era of the 26 you mentioned


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Thanks proving I'm not going crazy!

Today on VOSA:

PB0002404/370
New BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 99 (99) Sunderland,Hylton Castle Sunderland,Plains Farm

Effective date: 25th July to 1st October 2021


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99 going to stagecoach nice one

(09 Jul 2021, 5:56 pm)Michael wrote Today on VOSA:

PB0002404/370
New BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 99 (99) Sunderland,Hylton Castle Sunderland,Plains Farm

Effective date: 25th July to 1st October 2021


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(09 Jul 2021, 5:56 pm)Michael wrote Today on VOSA:

PB0002404/370
New BUSWAYS TRAVEL SERVICES LTD 99 (99) Sunderland,Hylton Castle Sunderland,Plains Farm

Effective date: 25th July to 1st October 2021


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That's a first, stagecoach getting a public nexus contract

(09 Jul 2021, 6:42 pm)GNE6312 wrote That's a first, stagecoach getting a public nexus contract

It won’t be the only one either.


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(09 Jul 2021, 6:59 pm)Dan wrote It won’t be the only one either.


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Do tell...

(09 Jul 2021, 6:59 pm)Dan wrote It won’t be the only one either.


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Does that mean their could be some transfers between depots once the school term ends due to the gaining of multiple nexus contracts? As there will be no-more need for duplicates with the ending of COVID restrictions. Also, Sunderland usually borrows a decker from Newcastle every Summer for the E's. I wonder if that will be happening this year with the open-tops being used?

Could Stagecoach be gaining more school contracts as well?

(09 Jul 2021, 7:23 pm)AIG20 wrote Does that mean their could be some transfers between depots once the school term ends due to the gaining of multiple nexus contracts? As there will be no-more need for duplicates with the ending of COVID restrictions. Also, Sunderland usually borrows a decker from Newcastle every Summer for the E's. I wonder if that will be happening this year with the open-tops being used?

Could Stagecoach be gaining more school contracts as well?

Sure I read that tridents were rumoured to be arriving in the NE, I can't even remember where now.


School buses more than likely although, I would like to see them gain the 8 (Sunderland Docks to South Hylton) back.


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Stagecoach hasn't ran a service in Castletown since around 2010? when they ran the 36A/36C, for NEXUS.

(09 Jul 2021, 7:46 pm)Michael wrote Sure I read that tridents were rumoured to be arriving in the NE, I can't even remember where now.


School buses more than likely although, I would like to see them gain the 8 (Sunderland Docks to South Hylton) back.

That's great. That could mean more services receiving some double deckers, that would interwork with scholars services.

The 516 would also be a good gain for Stagecoach - the routes gained may get more passengers assuming normal stagecoach tickets can be used.

Ooooo,hopefully Newcaatle will gain some of the Nexus contracts

Have stagecoach ever ran the 84 as that would be a good contract to win

(09 Jul 2021, 8:11 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote Have stagecoach ever ran the 84 as that would be a good contract to win

Before GCT It was operated by Stanley travel using their Ex Metrobus solo and Mini SR, before that it was phoenix and before that it was arriva using a Jesmond based solo.

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I do wonder what the 99 will be allocated

(09 Jul 2021, 8:17 pm)GNE6312 wrote Before GCT It was operated by Stanley travel using their Ex Metrobus solo and Mini SR, before that it was phoenix and before that it was arriva using a Jesmond based solo.

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I do wonder what the 99 will be allocated

Before that it was the 4 from Callerton to Metrocentre, operated by Veolia Transport.

Stagecoach has never and should never operate the 84/84A. It's a good alternative to Stagecoach (although not always well operated by GCT)

(09 Jul 2021, 8:17 pm)GNE6312 wrote

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I do wonder what the 99 will be allocated

Does the 99 need a small bus allocated or can it have anything allocated to it

(09 Jul 2021, 8:48 pm)Micheal Aaron wrote Does the 99 need a small bus allocated or can it have anything allocated to it

Im sure contracts are allocated on a minimum capacity basis so a bus must have a minimum of XX capacity so any vehicle over that capacity would satisfy the contract, it is no good sending a 10-12 meter long bus around an estate with poor clearance's for turning or known parked car problems so common sense has to be used for the correct allocation

Gateshead Central Taxis often used a MMC or a Streetlite sooooo

(09 Jul 2021, 6:59 pm)Dan wrote It won’t be the only one either.


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https://twitter.com/MrSaidTweets/status/...4719699970

These might do for all those extra contracts