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05 Aug 2021, 7:55 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 7:47 pm)V514DFT Only critisism i have is the 204,i'd renumber it 64 so it fits in better with the 62/62A and 65,also the Q3,its a bit of an odd ball now the Q1/Q2 is going


It will just confuse the Arriva service 64 in the same area at sherburn, GNE should drop the 200 series and make the ones that are left in double service numbers


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(05 Aug 2021, 7:51 pm)Keeiajs
 Do we know the buses it is getting?


It looks like bigger than solos


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cbma06
05 Aug 2021, 7:55 pm #441

(05 Aug 2021, 7:47 pm)V514DFT Only critisism i have is the 204,i'd renumber it 64 so it fits in better with the 62/62A and 65,also the Q3,its a bit of an odd ball now the Q1/Q2 is going


It will just confuse the Arriva service 64 in the same area at sherburn, GNE should drop the 200 series and make the ones that are left in double service numbers


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(05 Aug 2021, 7:51 pm)Keeiajs
 Do we know the buses it is getting?


It looks like bigger than solos


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Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 7:56 pm
Will both 50 | 5 get new buses?
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 7:56 pm #442

Will both 50 | 5 get new buses?

320
05 Aug 2021, 8:04 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 7:56 pm)Keeiajs Will both 50 | 5 get new buses?

5 will be allocated 8339-8346(?) and interwork with the9.
50 retaining Scania's and interworking with 26.
pbjd
05 Aug 2021, 8:04 pm #443

(05 Aug 2021, 7:56 pm)Keeiajs Will both 50 | 5 get new buses?

5 will be allocated 8339-8346(?) and interwork with the9.
50 retaining Scania's and interworking with 26.

10979
05 Aug 2021, 8:05 pm
My guess for 65 is either Versa or Citaro.
Jimmi
05 Aug 2021, 8:05 pm #444

My guess for 65 is either Versa or Citaro.

1016
05 Aug 2021, 8:06 pm
Nice to see we are getting a throw back to the 51/52 and Orbit (Now being East Gateshead Orbit)
Train8261
05 Aug 2021, 8:06 pm #445

Nice to see we are getting a throw back to the 51/52 and Orbit (Now being East Gateshead Orbit)

Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 8:07 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:04 pm)pbjd 5 will be allocated 8339-8346(?) and interwork with the9.
50 retaining Scania's and interworking with 26.
So 26 dropping crusader branding?

(05 Aug 2021, 8:04 pm)pbjd 5 will be allocated 8339-8346(?) and interwork with the9.
50 retaining Scania's and interworking with 26.
And the 5 will be operated by Deptford?
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 8:07 pm #446

(05 Aug 2021, 8:04 pm)pbjd 5 will be allocated 8339-8346(?) and interwork with the9.
50 retaining Scania's and interworking with 26.
So 26 dropping crusader branding?

(05 Aug 2021, 8:04 pm)pbjd 5 will be allocated 8339-8346(?) and interwork with the9.
50 retaining Scania's and interworking with 26.
And the 5 will be operated by Deptford?

1016
05 Aug 2021, 8:09 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:07 pm)Keeiajs So 26 dropping crusader branding?
Had a feeling it would. That gives the 27 full Crusader allocations now
Train8261
05 Aug 2021, 8:09 pm #447

(05 Aug 2021, 8:07 pm)Keeiajs So 26 dropping crusader branding?
Had a feeling it would. That gives the 27 full Crusader allocations now

320
05 Aug 2021, 8:09 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:07 pm)Keeiajs So 26 dropping crusader branding?

And the 5 will be operated by Deptford?

Yes to both, although it can be argued in a way the 26 wasn't after the cuts last year, 27 PVR 11, and 11 branded B9s, they just happened to end up on the 26 due to interworking whilst they held back on these changes.
pbjd
05 Aug 2021, 8:09 pm #448

(05 Aug 2021, 8:07 pm)Keeiajs So 26 dropping crusader branding?

And the 5 will be operated by Deptford?

Yes to both, although it can be argued in a way the 26 wasn't after the cuts last year, 27 PVR 11, and 11 branded B9s, they just happened to end up on the 26 due to interworking whilst they held back on these changes.

Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 8:11 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:09 pm)pbjd Yes to both, although it can be argued in a way the 26 wasn't after the cuts last year, 27 PVR 11, and 11 branded B9s, they just happened to end up on the 26 due to interworking whilst they held back on these changes.
So will the 5 & 9 get branding, and 26 & 50 get branding?
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 8:11 pm #449

(05 Aug 2021, 8:09 pm)pbjd Yes to both, although it can be argued in a way the 26 wasn't after the cuts last year, 27 PVR 11, and 11 branded B9s, they just happened to end up on the 26 due to interworking whilst they held back on these changes.
So will the 5 & 9 get branding, and 26 & 50 get branding?

05 Aug 2021, 8:12 pm
Could the Gemini spares from the 26 be put on the 25?


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05 Aug 2021, 8:12 pm #450

Could the Gemini spares from the 26 be put on the 25?


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320
05 Aug 2021, 8:13 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:11 pm)Keeiajs So will the 5 & 9 get branding, and 26 & 50 get branding?

All 4 routes will be unbranded.
pbjd
05 Aug 2021, 8:13 pm #451

(05 Aug 2021, 8:11 pm)Keeiajs So will the 5 & 9 get branding, and 26 & 50 get branding?

All 4 routes will be unbranded.

Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 8:13 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:12 pm)transportintyneandwear Could the Gemini spares from the 26 be put on the 25?


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Doubt it. I was possibly thinking 65.

What buses will be used on X22?
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 8:13 pm #452

(05 Aug 2021, 8:12 pm)transportintyneandwear Could the Gemini spares from the 26 be put on the 25?


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Doubt it. I was possibly thinking 65.

What buses will be used on X22?

05 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm
Well the only other solutions for the 25 is somehow finding some spare Euro 6 buses or curtailing it at Gateshead.


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transportintyneandwear
05 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm #453

Well the only other solutions for the 25 is somehow finding some spare Euro 6 buses or curtailing it at Gateshead.


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Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 8:15 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm)transportintyneandwear Well the only other solutions for the 25 is somehow finding some spare Euro 6 buses or curtailing it at Gateshead.


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Stick some streetlites on there
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 8:15 pm #454

(05 Aug 2021, 8:14 pm)transportintyneandwear Well the only other solutions for the 25 is somehow finding some spare Euro 6 buses or curtailing it at Gateshead.


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Stick some streetlites on there

2669
05 Aug 2021, 8:15 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:05 pm)Jimmi My guess for 65 is either Versa or Citaro.


Wonder if the 65 get the older versas, similar ones doing Arriva cover on the 6/7?


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cbma06
05 Aug 2021, 8:15 pm #455

(05 Aug 2021, 8:05 pm)Jimmi My guess for 65 is either Versa or Citaro.


Wonder if the 65 get the older versas, similar ones doing Arriva cover on the 6/7?


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Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 8:18 pm
It would be nice for the new 65 on a morning and on a evening to extend to parkside & 62 should go upto parkside providing more links, stupid that the 62 wasn't extend
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 8:18 pm #456

It would be nice for the new 65 on a morning and on a evening to extend to parkside & 62 should go upto parkside providing more links, stupid that the 62 wasn't extend

14271
05 Aug 2021, 8:28 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 7:02 pm)Adtrainsam Press Release now up

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/getting-bu...-september

Interesting changes.

Pleased to see the bizarre numbering system in Washington go.

Struggling to see logic behind the 28 changes (Whitehall Road?). The reasoning behind terminating it at Ouston, is clearly down to resource (or lack) of. Wondering if this will become Riverside based?

Unsure of the logic in omitting Pelaw Estate for the 34 too. Numbers may be low, but I would argue there's a need for some sort of service. Certainly more of a need than those residents living on the A693...
Re-routing the 78 and needing to maintain some sort of connection to Pelton (due to the 78 changes) is clearly a factor. 

They've tried similar changes to the 65 in the past. Sure they put pink deckers on at one point, after they finished their time chugging back and forth on the 21.
Will see if it lasts this time or if it goes the way it has done previously.
Although I thought it was a good idea initially, I'd question the need for the X1 extension to Dalton Park, if the 65 is becoming more frequent. 

Unsurprised at the axing of the 71 coupled with a pleading begging bowl in the direction of DCC. It's not like we've seen that sort of behaviour previously. I'd hoped MG may have instilled a sense of ownership in the organisation and that culture of using the public purse had ended. Clearly I was wrong (there's mention of the begging bowl at least twice in these changes).
The latest version isn't fit for purpose and rather than adapt the route or timetable, pushing connections with the National Rail Network at Seaham or spinning some other sort of marketing, it's obviously easier culling it completely.
See previous comments on taking the easy/lazy option.

Glad to see Brady Square maintain connections and new opportunities opened in that area.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Andreos1
05 Aug 2021, 8:28 pm #457

(05 Aug 2021, 7:02 pm)Adtrainsam Press Release now up

https://www.gonortheast.co.uk/getting-bu...-september

Interesting changes.

Pleased to see the bizarre numbering system in Washington go.

Struggling to see logic behind the 28 changes (Whitehall Road?). The reasoning behind terminating it at Ouston, is clearly down to resource (or lack) of. Wondering if this will become Riverside based?

Unsure of the logic in omitting Pelaw Estate for the 34 too. Numbers may be low, but I would argue there's a need for some sort of service. Certainly more of a need than those residents living on the A693...
Re-routing the 78 and needing to maintain some sort of connection to Pelton (due to the 78 changes) is clearly a factor. 

They've tried similar changes to the 65 in the past. Sure they put pink deckers on at one point, after they finished their time chugging back and forth on the 21.
Will see if it lasts this time or if it goes the way it has done previously.
Although I thought it was a good idea initially, I'd question the need for the X1 extension to Dalton Park, if the 65 is becoming more frequent. 

Unsurprised at the axing of the 71 coupled with a pleading begging bowl in the direction of DCC. It's not like we've seen that sort of behaviour previously. I'd hoped MG may have instilled a sense of ownership in the organisation and that culture of using the public purse had ended. Clearly I was wrong (there's mention of the begging bowl at least twice in these changes).
The latest version isn't fit for purpose and rather than adapt the route or timetable, pushing connections with the National Rail Network at Seaham or spinning some other sort of marketing, it's obviously easier culling it completely.
See previous comments on taking the easy/lazy option.

Glad to see Brady Square maintain connections and new opportunities opened in that area.


'Illegitimis non carborundum'

1525
05 Aug 2021, 8:29 pm
(05 Aug 2021, 8:06 pm)Train8261 Nice to see we are getting a throw back to the 51/52 and Orbit (Now being East Gateshead Orbit)

Why? Quaylink is more iconic.
ne14ne1
05 Aug 2021, 8:29 pm #458

(05 Aug 2021, 8:06 pm)Train8261 Nice to see we are getting a throw back to the 51/52 and Orbit (Now being East Gateshead Orbit)

Why? Quaylink is more iconic.

05 Aug 2021, 8:31 pm
Looking at some of the PDF timetables, it seems like the 8 (and possibly 78 as well) will be getting a new brand name called “Country Ranger”

https://passenger-line-assets.s3.eu-west...817123.pdf
Adtrainsam
05 Aug 2021, 8:31 pm #459

Looking at some of the PDF timetables, it seems like the 8 (and possibly 78 as well) will be getting a new brand name called “Country Ranger”

https://passenger-line-assets.s3.eu-west...817123.pdf

Keeiajs
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05 Aug 2021, 8:32 pm
Anyone know of any repaints for the 60? Or the new peterlee name?
Keeiajs
05 Aug 2021, 8:32 pm #460

Anyone know of any repaints for the 60? Or the new peterlee name?

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