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(15 Feb 2022, 7:39 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote I wonder when these final S&D vehicles will be branded up. suprised it was the Blues to be done last.
i also wonder which vehicles it will be, surely its 5323 to 5326 which will eliminate the last GNE 2016 corp livery.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:03 pm)Malarkey wrote Probably be done on completion of the Tyne Valley 10 B9's 6081/6082/6083, X-Lines X5/X15 Streetdecks 6305/6306 and Solo SR's 665/666 which are for S&D Blonde.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:23 pm)Malarkey wrote So it is, pointless brand for a PVR of 1.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:19 pm)Storx wrote Potentially waiting for the Nexus changes in Sunderland/Gateshead so then they can ditch half the routes there and withdraw some Citaro's. If they've ditched the 11 and 19 in North Tyneside can't see the likes of the 5/26 surviving they cart around fresh air especially the 26. Ironically 2 routes unbranded.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:19 pm)Storx wrote Potentially waiting for the Nexus changes in Sunderland/Gateshead so then they can ditch half the routes there and withdraw some Citaro's. If they've ditched the 11 and 19 in North Tyneside can't see the likes of the 5/26 surviving they cart around fresh air especially the 26. Ironically 2 routes unbranded.i think the Jarrow to Fellgate section is already secured by Nexus on the 5.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:27 pm)Michael wrote Ye, it is.
Sure it was May, when the NEXUS contracts need to be re-newed, expecting to see passenger consultions on the NEXUS site soon for those areas.
I think:
8X/73/135/136 will all be withdrawn....... the 35A extension to Heworth could also be a risk
All speculation until May though
(15 Feb 2022, 8:32 pm)Mark1 wrote i think the Jarrow to Fellgate section is already secured by Nexus on the 5.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:19 pm)Storx wrote Potentially waiting for the Nexus changes in Sunderland/Gateshead so then they can ditch half the routes there and withdraw some Citaro's. If they've ditched the 11 and 19 in North Tyneside can't see the likes of the 5/26 surviving they cart around fresh air especially the 26. Ironically 2 routes unbranded.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:03 pm)Malarkey wrote Probably be done on completion of the Tyne Valley 10 B9's 6081/6082/6083, X-Lines X5/X15 Streetdecks 6305/6306 and Solo SR's 665/666 which are for S&D Blonde.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:36 pm)Storx wrote Yeah I think it is May for Sunderland.Tbh the 26 is quite busy, well whenever I have seen it. the X6 seems to be busy a lot of the time. 5&9 do get busy, but that much but they do.
Honestly I think the 5, 9, 20 (Evenings, SS - Sunderland), 26, 35/35A (parts of it like you said), 38, 39/39A and X6 could be all at massive risk in Sunderland/SS. I know they're all subsidised one way or another especially on Sundays or have been dying for ages in the X6.
Also think the 28/28A, 29, 67 and 69 are at massive risk in Gateshead and the Washington locals aswell.
None of them are exactly ever busy and the 11 always seemed more popular than most of them and that's rumoured to be going.
Aye I think it is, believe part of the 9 and 26 are too.
(15 Feb 2022, 9:04 pm)Malarkey wrote In all fairness the 19 could easily be merged into the Arriva 57/57A providing a clockwise/anti clockwise circular service from Earsden onwards would be a massive benefits to those in this area as I do feel the Arriva Services mentioned alongside the 53/54 combined frequencies have a damaging impact on the 19 beyond Northumberland Park.
As for the Go North East you could extend Stagecoach South Shields 10/11 from North Shields through to Whitley Bay or alternatively split the 22's and them run every 20 mins to Cobalt and same to North Shields/Whitley Bay.
Furthermore in North Tyneside i'd merge Stagecoach 40 with the Go North East 40 from Wallsend to Hadrian Park.
I haven't had a look at South Tyneside but I am sure it would be more beneficial to have the 5/26 to pass over to Stagecoach South Shields in terms of operation from Go North East.
Far to much duplication of services from what I have looked at in which makes it easy to see why some of these services are no longer viable to operate as has proven to be the case elsewhere such as Oxford who recently eliminated competition on various corridors.
(15 Feb 2022, 9:04 pm)Malarkey wrote In all fairness the 19 could easily be merged into the Arriva 57/57A providing a clockwise/anti clockwise circular service from Earsden onwards would be a massive benefits to those in this area as I do feel the Arriva Services mentioned alongside the 53/54 combined frequencies have a damaging impact on the 19 beyond Northumberland Park.You mean the 41,the GNE 40 went in March 2020
As for the Go North East you could extend Stagecoach South Shields 10/11 from North Shields through to Whitley Bay or alternatively split the 22's and them run every 20 mins to Cobalt and same to North Shields/Whitley Bay.
Furthermore in North Tyneside i'd merge Stagecoach 40 with the Go North East 40 from Wallsend to Hadrian Park.
I haven't had a look at South Tyneside but I am sure it would be more beneficial to have the 5/26 to pass over to Stagecoach South Shields in terms of operation from Go North East.
Far to much duplication of services from what I have looked at in which makes it easy to see why some of these services are no longer viable to operate as has proven to be the case elsewhere such as Oxford who recently eliminated competition on various corridors.
(15 Feb 2022, 9:20 pm)Storx wrote Honestly, I know this isn't really the right thread but as someone living on the 57/57A. I'd ditch the 57 outright and merge the 11 and 57A together as a Cramlington - North Shields Ferry via Seghill bus route. No-one down here wants to go anywhere near Ashington and it's not much longer to catch the X7 to Blyth and change onto the 1/2 depending on where your going.Ii had a crazy suggestion to myself the other day,,keep the 41/41A and have them as circulars
Would open loads of links to the hospitals and reopen the connection to North Tyneside hospital and open cross town links to Monkseaton to Morrisons and the hospital aswell partially replacing the W3.
For Ashington just send the 52 or 53 or something else up there instead and for the other half of the 11 merge it with it with something else ie the 41/42. Then the 19 I'd do the new route that's coming but extend it to East Hartford to replace the useless 58.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:36 pm)Storx wrote Yeah I think it is May for Sunderland.
Honestly I think the 5, 9, 20 (Evenings, SS - Sunderland), 26, 35/35A (parts of it like you said), 38, 39/39A and X6 could be all at massive risk in Sunderland/SS. I know they're all subsidised one way or another especially on Sundays or have been dying for ages in the X6.
Also think the 28/28A, 29, 67 and 69 are at massive risk in Gateshead and the Washington locals aswell.
None of them are exactly ever busy and the 11 always seemed more popular than most of them and that's rumoured to be going.
Aye I think it is, believe part of the 9 and 26 are too.
(15 Feb 2022, 8:36 pm)Storx wrote Yeah I think it is May for Sunderland.
Honestly I think the 5, 9, 20 (Evenings, SS - Sunderland), 26, 35/35A (parts of it like you said), 38, 39/39A and X6 could be all at massive risk in Sunderland/SS. I know they're all subsidised one way or another especially on Sundays or have been dying for ages in the X6.
Also think the 28/28A, 29, 67 and 69 are at massive risk in Gateshead and the Washington locals aswell.
None of them are exactly ever busy and the 11 always seemed more popular than most of them and that's rumoured to be going.
Aye I think it is, believe part of the 9 and 26 are too.
(16 Feb 2022, 12:24 pm)Chris 1 wrote At 70%-80% of previous passenger numbers I'd wager any hourly service is under threat. The 69 in its current form is a survivor from the days of direct, round the world links. Looks quiet during the day, but used to get quite busy at school times when I used to use it. The 67 is a funny one. They've tried a few times over the years since the days of the 527 to pull the route, there's always an outcry for the loss of the QE/Deckham link and it gets rejigged.
(16 Feb 2022, 4:43 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote The Little Pinks always seem fairly busy during the day. I was suprised by the Sep 21 changes because the harraton ones always seemed emptyish and the birtley ones felt fuller.
(28 Mar 2022, 8:19 pm)Unber43 wrote With the Q3 reduction, if they have lost a PVR of 3.
Get those 3 on the 684 (possibly brand it) as they are euro 6, and have 5377-79 taken to Deptford for the 61, and have them a interior refurbishment with the Drifters.
Instead of using unreliable Citaros.
Or get the Spare Eclipses from Riverside for it
(28 Mar 2022, 8:19 pm)Unber43 wrote With the Q3 reduction, if they have lost a PVR of 3.I'd definitely support Versas returning to the 61 (as much as I really like the Mercs). Just hope we don't get Rattlelites.
Get those 3 on the 684 (possibly brand it) as they are euro 6, and have 5377-79 taken to Deptford for the 61, and have them a interior refurbishment with the Drifters.
Instead of using unreliable Citaros.
Or get the Spare Eclipses from Riverside for it
(28 Mar 2022, 9:21 pm)F114TML wrote I'd definitely support Versas returning to the 61 (as much as I really like the Mercs). Just hope we don't get Rattlelites.They could take 5389.
Btw, I'm pretty sure the 61 has a PVR of 4, where's the other Versa coming from in your proposal?
(28 Mar 2022, 9:50 pm)Unber43 wrote They could take 5389.Yeah, the 61's rarely full, but it's also rarely empty. There's some runs, however, where I think it could actually do with a double decker! Apparently the Blues haven't been repainted because Saltmeadows is too busy. I think Solos would be too small personally. If they weren't StreetLites, I'd say the ex-Saltwell Parks would be pretty ideal (used to be Cadets until about 9 years ago).
THe reason i was thinking this is because why hasn’t the Blue's been painted. Tbh I never really see the 61 full,even on Bus times when a check, possible they could allocate solo's on it, referb them and put it has every 15 mins, more frequency.
There hast to be a reason they haven't done it yet.
(28 Mar 2022, 10:24 pm)F114TML wrote Yeah, the 61's rarely full, but it's also rarely empty. There's some runs, however, where I think it could actually do with a double decker! Apparently the Blues haven't been repainted because Saltmeadows is too busy. I think Solos would be too small personally. If they weren't StreetLites, I'd say the ex-Saltwell Parks would be pretty ideal (used to be Cadets until about 9 years ago).
And returning it to a 15 minute frequency would be convenient but I'm not sure they can really justify it.
