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L469 YVK   16 Apr 2022, 2:31 pm
(16 Apr 2022, 2:21 pm)Unber43 wrote If GNE order any more E200 and E400 would they get the camera mirrors instead of actual mirrors, I am quite suprised that the current E400 don't have them, especially on some of the X72 quite tight turns
Depends whether or not they had an impact at East Yorkshire on the X46.

I personally don't see GNE ordering anymore E400MMC or anything heavier in the future unless for the X10, 10/10A/10B or X21. The vast majority of GNE's decker work can be handled with StreetDecks.

Next decker order I can see GNE making (hopefully as part of a Green Bus Bid) will be for the 21 with current StreetDecks either ending up on the 56 or 309/310/311. Then B9TLs released either moved elsewhere within GNE/EY or wider GAG.
Unber43   16 Apr 2022, 2:34 pm
(16 Apr 2022, 2:31 pm)L469 YVK wrote Depends whether or not they had an impact at East Yorkshire on the X46.

I personally don't see GNE ordering anymore E400MMC or anything heavier in the future unless for the X10, 10/10A/10B or X21. The vast majority of GNE's decker work can be handled with StreetDecks.

Next decker order I can see GNE making (hopefully as part of a Green Bus Bid) will be for the 21 with current StreetDecks either ending up on the 56 or 309/310/311. Then B9TLs released either moved elsewhere within GNE/EY or wider GAG.
21 Streetdecks would probs go onto the 56, with 309/10/11 getting their own vehicles
cbma06   16 Apr 2022, 9:01 pm
If any new buses for the angel, The angel streetdecks would probably go to consett depot for service 47/x5/x15 or 10’s for depot standardisation, as GNE likes to repaint buses over and over with them buses going on service 20 with streetlites replacing the citarios


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Unber43   16 Apr 2022, 9:04 pm
(16 Apr 2022, 9:01 pm)cbma06 wrote If any new buses for the angel, The angel streetdecks would probably go to consett depot for service 47/x5/x15 or 10’s for depot standardisation, as GNE likes to repaint buses over and over with them buses going on service 20 with streetlites replacing the citarios


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They love to repaint 6331, I think its had 5 repaints.
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L469 YVK   16 Apr 2022, 9:39 pm
(16 Apr 2022, 9:01 pm)cbma06 wrote If any new buses for the angel, The angel streetdecks would probably go to consett depot for service 47/x5/x15 or 10’s for depot standardisation, as GNE likes to repaint buses over and over with them buses going on service 20 with streetlites replacing the citarios


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I doubt it although not a bad idea by any means.

If the Angel StreetDecks were freed up, they'd want to be targeting routes where a B9TL is really overkill (barring the 58 & 93/94 as those are only local routes using older deckers and likewise for the 27). The 56 or 309/310/311 fit that bill perfectly as GNE did try and apply GKN modifications to the B9TLs back in 2014/15 although trials on 6085 & 6104 didn't go to plan.

Likewise, cascaded B9TLs would be a good fit for the 20 if it turned out to warrant deckers given the intensity and high utilisation of the service.

If the Angel got new vehicles, the cascades could go.........

StreetDeck:
- 6315-30 - Percy Main - 309/310/311
- 6331-32 - Percy Main - Spare
- 6333 - TBD

B9TL:
- 6100 - Deptford - Spare
- 6101-13 - Deptford - 20
- 6114-17 - Consett - X5/X15
Unber43   16 May 2022, 5:48 pm
Anyone think GNE will order any buses this year?
Michael   16 May 2022, 5:53 pm
(16 May 2022, 5:48 pm)Unber43 wrote Anyone think GNE will order any buses this year?

Won't need too after all those cuts!

Only the 9 electric buses due in July/August.

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Jack Gill   16 May 2022, 5:53 pm
They probably won't for a good few years, they keep chopping and changing their services at the minute so it'd be pointless, plus they probably don't have the money yet.
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Unber43   16 May 2022, 6:08 pm
(16 May 2022, 5:53 pm)Jack Gill wrote They probably won't for a good few years, they keep chopping and changing their services at the minute so it'd be pointless, plus they probably don't have the money yet.
I mean I can only see 1 or 2 services which should get new buses, and thats probs the 4 & 60. As there older buses could be sent out to replacer the other mercedes and putting newer buses on profitable services then again the 4 has just been reduced to every 15, it was every 10.
Andreos1   16 May 2022, 6:24 pm
(16 May 2022, 6:22 pm)omnicity4659 wrote title of the thread should be changed to "future sale predictions" haha
Versas, Omnidekkers and Solo's.

'Illegitimis non carborundum'
Unber43   16 May 2022, 6:28 pm
(16 May 2022, 6:24 pm)Andreos1 wrote Versas, Omnidekkers and Solo's.
Don't forget the Citaros
missedbus   08 Jul 2022, 12:49 pm
MG's Twitter feed is showing some completed Yutong E12s at Pelican, so it looks like they won't be much longer. We'll then find out which route they'll go on! Looks like these will be Voltra as well, with the swoopy livery layout.
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streetdeckfan   08 Jul 2022, 1:04 pm
(08 Jul 2022, 12:49 pm)missedbus wrote MG's Twitter feed is showing some completed Yutong E12s at Pelican, so it looks like they won't be much longer. We'll then find out which route they'll go on! Looks like these will be Voltra as well, with the swoopy livery layout.
And it looks like they've changed the seats, no more Civic V3s.

They look like they have very little padding on the base, so I'm not looking forward to trying them out!

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Jack Gill   08 Jul 2022, 2:22 pm
It seems they have changed the style of the repaint for the front slightly, with the orange taking up more space than the green on the others.
Ambassador   08 Jul 2022, 2:32 pm
I predict a fleet of Mellor Strata's for all the Nexus taxibus work they'll be going for after the next round of cuts

Wistfully stuck in the 90s
Retro Nero   18 Jul 2022, 12:33 pm
Apparently there is a rumour that there are some Enviro ADL 200s coming for the Drifter 60s but don't know if they're second hand or new .... Anybody else know?
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Jack Gill   18 Jul 2022, 2:27 pm
I doubt they're new as I'm pretty sure GNE only want to purchase electric vehicles new
wibblejunior   18 Jul 2022, 3:00 pm
They could acquire some from dealer stock. I think most of East Yorkshire's E200s were acquired from dealer stock.

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Dan   18 Jul 2022, 6:15 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 12:33 pm)Retro Nero wrote Apparently there is a rumour that there are some Enviro ADL 200s coming for the Drifter 60s but don't know if they're second hand or new .... Anybody else know?


False, sorry.


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Retro Nero   18 Jul 2022, 6:29 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 6:15 pm)Dan wrote False, sorry.


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Thought it would be,,,, thanks anyway Dan
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Unber43   18 Jul 2022, 7:14 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 12:33 pm)Retro Nero wrote Apparently there is a rumour that there are some Enviro ADL 200s coming for the Drifter 60s but don't know if they're second hand or new .... Anybody else know?
The 60 is probably in the next order of buses. But god knows when

As Go-Ahead wants to have fully fleets of Electric Buses and or Hydrogen by 2035, surely a lot of the major routes, would have them by 2027/2028 for when 2035 comes they can be displaced on less profitable routes
Unber43   18 Jul 2022, 8:07 pm
You could order new buses for the 4 & 60. 

And the 8 60's can go onto the X20, 4's can go onto the 2/2A with 1/2 spare.

And the versas can displace the current citaros on the 35.
F114TML   18 Jul 2022, 8:43 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 8:07 pm)Unber43 wrote You could order new buses for the 4 & 60. 

And the 8 60's can go onto the X20, 4's can go onto the 2/2A with 1/2 spare.

And the versas can displace the current citaros on the 35.
I'm sure StreetLites would wear the Xlines livery well (/sarcasm), as well as being the exact opposite of luxury and comfort (although I think the Drifters are slightly better than the rest - may be the fact the seats aren't leather).

You could directly replace the X20 Citaros, and the ones on the 35 (at least all the branded ones) with just the Connections4 ones.
If the Drifters in this scenario went corporate then they'd also replace all but 2 of the 58-plate Citaros.

Then, assuming the X20 Citaros weren't sold, when Riverside gets the Yutongs (assuming they are for the QuayCity), send 5380-5390 to Deptford* and replace the rest of the Citaros (if the X20 ones were sold at the arrival of the C4s, 5380-90 would do the 58-plate Citaros, the Violets, and release the 4 StreetLites allocated to the 65, with one left over).
(/fantasy)

*I think actually these will just be distributed to start replacing the 09-, 10- and 11-plate Versas.
cbma06   18 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm
Can’t see new buses anytime soon, if the current needs replacing then cast offs from younger streetlites would go on the 60


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Unber43   18 Jul 2022, 8:52 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 8:44 pm)cbma06 wrote Can’t see new buses anytime soon, if the current needs replacing then cast offs from younger streetlites would go on the 60


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I think the next order will be in 2023, and it will be for the 4 & 60.
Storx   18 Jul 2022, 9:33 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 8:52 pm)Unber43 wrote I think the next order will be in 2023, and it will be for the 4 & 60.

Not a chance, be at least 2025 if generous for them. The Drifter doesn't usually get much investment it had the god damn awful Marshall Darts on for years.

The next order will be for Hexham replacing the oldest Solo's and getting something Euro 6 for the 74 imo.

The 08/58 Merc's will be gone by the end of this year imo displaced by whatever the electrics go on either the 10 plate Versa's or the Quaycity ones (half of them going next week with the cuts). There's also the X45/X46 Streetdeck's which will displace stuff aswell. I still think the 58 either via the X21 (unsure personally) or directly.
F114TML   18 Jul 2022, 9:37 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 9:33 pm)Storx wrote Not a chance, be at least 2025 if generous for them. The Drifter doesn't usually get much investment it had the god damn awful Marshall Darts on for years.

The next order will be for Hexham replacing the oldest Solo's and getting something Euro 6 for the 74 imo.

The 08/58 Merc's will be gone by the end of this year imo displaced by whatever the electrics go on either the 10 plate Versa's or the Quaycity ones. There's also the X45/X46 Streetdeck's which will displace stuff aswell. I still think the 58 either via the X21 (unsure personally) or directly.
However it did get new Versas for all of about 6 seconds before they were replaced by the (then new) StreetLites.
Storx   18 Jul 2022, 10:10 pm
(18 Jul 2022, 9:37 pm)F114TML wrote However it did get new Versas for all of about 6 seconds before they were replaced by the (then new) StreetLites.

Aye that's true mind. 

Mind that batch of Versa's have always been a bit of a reject group going from route to route and never really having a long term home all moving off their bought routes pretty early in their life or twice for the simplicity ones.

They seem to be getting withdrawn early aswell now, be surprised if they're around by the end of the year. Not sure if there's something wrong with them under the hood.
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GNE6312   19 Jul 2022, 7:23 am
(18 Jul 2022, 9:33 pm)Storx wrote Not a chance, be at least 2025 if generous for them. The Drifter doesn't usually get much investment it had the god damn awful Marshall Darts on for years.

The next order will be for Hexham replacing the oldest Solo's and getting something Euro 6 for the 74 imo.

The 08/58 Merc's will be gone by the end of this year imo displaced by whatever the electrics go on either the 10 plate Versa's or the Quaycity ones (half of them going next week with the cuts). There's also the X45/X46 Streetdeck's which will displace stuff aswell. I still think the 58 either via the X21 (unsure personally) or directly.

If it were for the 74 they might want to wait till next year as that contract only has a year so pointless investing in a bus that would spend less than a year on a route (obviously that's a worse case scenario but still has ti be considered) unless it's something standard across another (or afew other) depots to allow it to move to another route should GNE loose the 74 next year
Unber43   19 Jul 2022, 9:42 am
(19 Jul 2022, 7:23 am)GNE6312 wrote If it were for the 74 they might want to wait till next year as that contract only has a year so pointless investing in a bus that would spend less than a year on a route (obviously that's a worse case scenario but still has ti be considered) unless it's something standard across another (or afew other) depots to allow it to move to another route should GNE loose the 74 next year
Tbf they could just get one of the QuayCity and repaint it. Especially if they get the new electric buses, 7 are needed + 1 spare, leaves 1 for the 74, plus they can grab 729 or 730 to replace it if it breakdown. + there will be spare versa's off the 25 cancellation from CLS to Langley Park
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