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Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2014

Go North East: Latest News & Discussion - January 2014

 
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21 Jan 2014, 8:39 pm
I think that GNE are in a perfect position buying the B9TL's for the 309 and more people will hopefully use it between Blyth and New York to Newcastle City Centre. The added bonus is that the 309's timetable could accomodate a full double decker and still make a seift and relatively quick journey, but Arriva's 308 can't do that and the odd time I've got the 308 home instead, it could only keep to time every now and then whilst making safe and relatively quick progress. Put it this way, if Arriva need to add a few more minutes to the 308 the next time they revise the buses, GNE with a bit of marketing luck, could boost the 309 passenger numbers of people travelling from between Blyth and New York to Newcastle and back.
Davey Bowyer
21 Jan 2014, 8:39 pm #1181

I think that GNE are in a perfect position buying the B9TL's for the 309 and more people will hopefully use it between Blyth and New York to Newcastle City Centre. The added bonus is that the 309's timetable could accomodate a full double decker and still make a seift and relatively quick journey, but Arriva's 308 can't do that and the odd time I've got the 308 home instead, it could only keep to time every now and then whilst making safe and relatively quick progress. Put it this way, if Arriva need to add a few more minutes to the 308 the next time they revise the buses, GNE with a bit of marketing luck, could boost the 309 passenger numbers of people travelling from between Blyth and New York to Newcastle and back.

21 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm
The 58 city link needed bigger buses so they get versas :s smaller buses liked it when they had the mercedes on,
speedwheels22
21 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm #1182

The 58 city link needed bigger buses so they get versas :s smaller buses liked it when they had the mercedes on,

961
21 Jan 2014, 9:05 pm
Should routes be served by vehicles sized to manage the maximum capacity, or should timetables be staggered according to demand throughout the day?

Whatever happened to DUPLICATEs? - you never see them nowadays whereas they used to be commonplace in the 1950s.

The demand from the shipyards (long gone) at starting and finishing times meant long queues for buses, but those days are over . . .
G-CPTN
21 Jan 2014, 9:05 pm #1183

Should routes be served by vehicles sized to manage the maximum capacity, or should timetables be staggered according to demand throughout the day?

Whatever happened to DUPLICATEs? - you never see them nowadays whereas they used to be commonplace in the 1950s.

The demand from the shipyards (long gone) at starting and finishing times meant long queues for buses, but those days are over . . .

Diamond One
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21 Jan 2014, 9:19 pm
(21 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm)speedwheels22 The 58 city link needed bigger buses so they get versas :s smaller buses liked it when they had the mercedes on,

it doesnt get packed anymore since the timetable changed reason why they got new vehicles was because the bendies were always tired and ended up broken down inside of the depot thus that is why an off route appearance used to come in e.g Crusader or Highwayman even the 12 plated Tyne Tees Express
Diamond One
21 Jan 2014, 9:19 pm #1184

(21 Jan 2014, 8:57 pm)speedwheels22 The 58 city link needed bigger buses so they get versas :s smaller buses liked it when they had the mercedes on,

it doesnt get packed anymore since the timetable changed reason why they got new vehicles was because the bendies were always tired and ended up broken down inside of the depot thus that is why an off route appearance used to come in e.g Crusader or Highwayman even the 12 plated Tyne Tees Express

5327
21 Jan 2014, 10:40 pm
(21 Jan 2014, 9:19 pm)Bazza Houston it doesnt get packed anymore since the timetable changed reason why they got new vehicles was because the bendies were always tired and ended up broken down inside of the depot thus that is why an off route appearance used to come in e.g Crusader or Highwayman even the 12 plated Tyne Tees Express

So the reason the 58 doesn't get crowded is because they got newer buses?

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tyresmoke
21 Jan 2014, 10:40 pm #1185

(21 Jan 2014, 9:19 pm)Bazza Houston it doesnt get packed anymore since the timetable changed reason why they got new vehicles was because the bendies were always tired and ended up broken down inside of the depot thus that is why an off route appearance used to come in e.g Crusader or Highwayman even the 12 plated Tyne Tees Express

So the reason the 58 doesn't get crowded is because they got newer buses?


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21 Jan 2014, 10:41 pm
I'm surprised that they've kept the 58 beyond Newcastle to Hadrian Park. One suggestion from me though would be to curtail the 58 at Eldon Square and have it running every 7-8 minutes during the day then every 15 minutes evemings and Sundays. Then between Haymarket and Hadrian Park, introduce a 15 minute (30 evenings and Sundays) service 305 operating the same route as the 309 to Battle Hill then into Hadrian Park. It would streamline the 3 services between Newcastle and Battle Hill with the exception of the Coast Road Rising Sun Pub and High Farm. It would form a 4-6 minute frequency between Battle Hill and Newcastle during the day then approximately every 15 minutes during the evening then approximately every 10 minutes on a Sunday daytime.
Davey Bowyer
21 Jan 2014, 10:41 pm #1186

I'm surprised that they've kept the 58 beyond Newcastle to Hadrian Park. One suggestion from me though would be to curtail the 58 at Eldon Square and have it running every 7-8 minutes during the day then every 15 minutes evemings and Sundays. Then between Haymarket and Hadrian Park, introduce a 15 minute (30 evenings and Sundays) service 305 operating the same route as the 309 to Battle Hill then into Hadrian Park. It would streamline the 3 services between Newcastle and Battle Hill with the exception of the Coast Road Rising Sun Pub and High Farm. It would form a 4-6 minute frequency between Battle Hill and Newcastle during the day then approximately every 15 minutes during the evening then approximately every 10 minutes on a Sunday daytime.

5327
21 Jan 2014, 10:45 pm
(21 Jan 2014, 9:05 pm)G-CPTN Should routes be served by vehicles sized to manage the maximum capacity, or should timetables be staggered according to demand throughout the day?

Whatever happened to DUPLICATEs? - you never see them nowadays whereas they used to be commonplace in the 1950s.

The demand from the shipyards (long gone) at starting and finishing times meant long queues for buses, but those days are over . . .

Gone are the days of operating the same frequency all day long, timetables now need to match the demand from your customers and that's why express services like the X9/X39 to Cobalt run at peak times at the expense of other journeys. Changes like this are being seen on Teesside now too with the changes to Arriva services in February.
Duplicates don't happen as the companies simply don't have the spare vehicles and/or drivers to operate them.

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tyresmoke
21 Jan 2014, 10:45 pm #1187

(21 Jan 2014, 9:05 pm)G-CPTN Should routes be served by vehicles sized to manage the maximum capacity, or should timetables be staggered according to demand throughout the day?

Whatever happened to DUPLICATEs? - you never see them nowadays whereas they used to be commonplace in the 1950s.

The demand from the shipyards (long gone) at starting and finishing times meant long queues for buses, but those days are over . . .

Gone are the days of operating the same frequency all day long, timetables now need to match the demand from your customers and that's why express services like the X9/X39 to Cobalt run at peak times at the expense of other journeys. Changes like this are being seen on Teesside now too with the changes to Arriva services in February.
Duplicates don't happen as the companies simply don't have the spare vehicles and/or drivers to operate them.


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21 Jan 2014, 10:56 pm
(21 Jan 2014, 10:40 pm)tyresmoke So the reason the 58 doesn't get crowded is because they got newer buses?

never see it packed when am out and about
Diamond One
21 Jan 2014, 10:56 pm #1188

(21 Jan 2014, 10:40 pm)tyresmoke So the reason the 58 doesn't get crowded is because they got newer buses?

never see it packed when am out and about

21 Jan 2014, 11:03 pm
(21 Jan 2014, 10:40 pm)tyresmoke So the reason the 58 doesn't get crowded is because they got newer buses?

Pretty sure it was explained before as it still having the same amount of seats per hour at peak loading times, as there was an extra bus chucked in? Might be completely off the mark like.. Smile

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21 Jan 2014, 11:03 pm #1189

(21 Jan 2014, 10:40 pm)tyresmoke So the reason the 58 doesn't get crowded is because they got newer buses?

Pretty sure it was explained before as it still having the same amount of seats per hour at peak loading times, as there was an extra bus chucked in? Might be completely off the mark like.. Smile


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21 Jan 2014, 11:29 pm
Just an Update on the Sighting of Angel Hybrid 6070 at Volvo Yesterday, it was there due to having Electrical Problems.
Malarkey
21 Jan 2014, 11:29 pm #1190

Just an Update on the Sighting of Angel Hybrid 6070 at Volvo Yesterday, it was there due to having Electrical Problems.

gtom
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22 Jan 2014, 12:25 am
(21 Jan 2014, 11:29 pm)Adam Malarkey Just an Update on the Sighting of Angel Hybrid 6070 at Volvo Yesterday, it was there due to having Electrical Problems.

One hopes it was a fatal error with the audio next stop
gtom
22 Jan 2014, 12:25 am #1191

(21 Jan 2014, 11:29 pm)Adam Malarkey Just an Update on the Sighting of Angel Hybrid 6070 at Volvo Yesterday, it was there due to having Electrical Problems.

One hopes it was a fatal error with the audio next stop

3238
22 Jan 2014, 6:17 am
(21 Jan 2014, 11:29 pm)Adam Malarkey Just an Update on the Sighting of Angel Hybrid 6070 at Volvo Yesterday, it was there due to having Electrical Problems.

Exact reason was fuel rail pressure sensor Tongue
citaro5284
22 Jan 2014, 6:17 am #1192

(21 Jan 2014, 11:29 pm)Adam Malarkey Just an Update on the Sighting of Angel Hybrid 6070 at Volvo Yesterday, it was there due to having Electrical Problems.

Exact reason was fuel rail pressure sensor Tongue

372
22 Jan 2014, 6:53 am
(22 Jan 2014, 12:25 am)gtomlinson One hopes it was a fatal error with the audio next stop

So used to it now it fades into the background noise.
nk55
22 Jan 2014, 6:53 am #1193

(22 Jan 2014, 12:25 am)gtomlinson One hopes it was a fatal error with the audio next stop

So used to it now it fades into the background noise.

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22 Jan 2014, 9:28 am
Versa 5390 has been fitted with a full white LED blind. I assume this is a trial of some sort given the mention of a few things being planned for the blinds a little while ago?
On Orbits today. Looks very good!
Dan
22 Jan 2014, 9:28 am #1194

Versa 5390 has been fitted with a full white LED blind. I assume this is a trial of some sort given the mention of a few things being planned for the blinds a little while ago?
On Orbits today. Looks very good!

22 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm
does anyone know what depot mpd 547 is at coz someone said to me its saltmeadows and another person said it still at sunderland

Jmoss
jaimz13
22 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm #1195

does anyone know what depot mpd 547 is at coz someone said to me its saltmeadows and another person said it still at sunderland


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22 Jan 2014, 1:52 pm
(22 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm)jaimz13 does anyone know what depot mpd 547 is at coz someone said to me its saltmeadows and another person said it still at sunderland

It's at Saltmeadows for 27X. 547 has replaced 564 as the former is in company livery and then 564 can be used on East Durham services.

(22 Jan 2014, 9:28 am)Dan Versa 5390 has been fitted with a full white LED blind. I assume this is a trial of some sort given the mention of a few things being planned for the blinds a little while ago?
On Orbits today. Looks very good!

Any pictures?
CatsFast101
22 Jan 2014, 1:52 pm #1196

(22 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm)jaimz13 does anyone know what depot mpd 547 is at coz someone said to me its saltmeadows and another person said it still at sunderland

It's at Saltmeadows for 27X. 547 has replaced 564 as the former is in company livery and then 564 can be used on East Durham services.

(22 Jan 2014, 9:28 am)Dan Versa 5390 has been fitted with a full white LED blind. I assume this is a trial of some sort given the mention of a few things being planned for the blinds a little while ago?
On Orbits today. Looks very good!

Any pictures?

Dan
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18138
22 Jan 2014, 2:10 pm
I will try and get a better photograph tonight.
Dan
22 Jan 2014, 2:10 pm #1197

I will try and get a better photograph tonight.

Diamond One
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22 Jan 2014, 5:33 pm
(22 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm)jaimz13 does anyone know what depot mpd 547 is at coz someone said to me its saltmeadows and another person said it still at sunderland

Saltmeadows was on 27X yesterday
Diamond One
22 Jan 2014, 5:33 pm #1198

(22 Jan 2014, 1:45 pm)jaimz13 does anyone know what depot mpd 547 is at coz someone said to me its saltmeadows and another person said it still at sunderland

Saltmeadows was on 27X yesterday

Dan
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22 Jan 2014, 5:36 pm
(22 Jan 2014, 2:10 pm)Dan I will try and get a better photograph tonight.

On Park duties now. Must have been swapped over during the day.
Dan
22 Jan 2014, 5:36 pm #1199

(22 Jan 2014, 2:10 pm)Dan I will try and get a better photograph tonight.

On Park duties now. Must have been swapped over during the day.

Diamond One
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22 Jan 2014, 5:51 pm
(22 Jan 2014, 5:36 pm)Dan On Park duties now. Must have been swapped over during the day.

i saw an even rarer sighting today that has never happned ever Nexus Bus on 57 Crusader on 57 while 4919 was on 27X got photos of all 3 they have just entered flickr right now

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/12089412286/ - 639 on 57
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/120...otostream/ - 4919 on 27X
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/120...otostream/ - 5332 on 57
Diamond One
22 Jan 2014, 5:51 pm #1200

(22 Jan 2014, 5:36 pm)Dan On Park duties now. Must have been swapped over during the day.

i saw an even rarer sighting today that has never happned ever Nexus Bus on 57 Crusader on 57 while 4919 was on 27X got photos of all 3 they have just entered flickr right now

http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/12089412286/ - 639 on 57
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/120...otostream/ - 4919 on 27X
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bazza90/120...otostream/ - 5332 on 57

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