Would appear that GAL's WVL380, WVL382, and WVL384 are currently at Bus and Coach World for refurbishment and transfer to GNE.
WVL380: Go Ahead London WVL380 | Seen at Bus & Coach World, Blackbur… | Flickr
WVL382: Go Ahead London WVL382 | Seen at Bus & Coach Wprld, Blackbur… | Flickr
WVL384: Go Ahead London WVL384 | Seen at Bus & Coach World, Blackbur… | Flickr

(16 Jun 2022, 9:13 am)EL1TE wrote Would appear that GAL's WVL380, WVL382, and WVL384 are currently at Bus and Coach World for refurbishment and transfer to GNE.
WVL380: Go Ahead London WVL380 | Seen at Bus & Coach World, Blackbur… | Flickr
WVL382: Go Ahead London WVL382 | Seen at Bus & Coach Wprld, Blackbur… | Flickr
WVL384: Go Ahead London WVL384 | Seen at Bus & Coach World, Blackbur… | Flickr

DFDS maybe

Wonder if they retain the centre doors like the e400s.
*fingers crossed*

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Hopefully they get black window surrounds, (unlike the first e400 we’ve seen).
Remember when 6154 didn’t have black surrounds: https://flic.kr/p/2m2xMm5

(16 Jun 2022, 12:51 pm)ne14ne1 wrote Wonder if they retain the centre doors like the e400s.
*fingers crossed*

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Hopefully they get black window surrounds, (unlike the first e400 we’ve seen).
Remember when 6154 didn’t have black surrounds: https://flic.kr/p/2m2xMm5

I'm getting flashbacks.

Would they still be at Blackburn if they weren't having centre doors removed?

(16 Jun 2022, 11:51 am)JP6004 wrote DFDS maybe

Or may replace the B7TL's at Riverside as there is 7:

WVL385 LX60DXT
WVL382 LX60DXP
WVL384 LX60DXS
WVL337 LX59DDJ
WVL383 LX60DXR
WVL381 LX60DXO
WVL380 LX60DXM

I was thinking perhaps 1 could be used for the 58 as that will have a PVR increase?

(16 Jun 2022, 3:53 pm)Jack Gill wrote I was thinking perhaps 1 could be used for the 58 as that will have a PVR increase?

I wonder if the 58 will get the new electric buses and the 57 could become the new East Rider now that 6154 has been repainted in fleet livery.

(16 Jun 2022, 4:06 pm)ian foster wrote I wonder if the 58 will get the new electric buses and the 57 could become the new East Rider now that 6154 has been repainted in fleet livery.

I'm pretty sure 6154 is still in East Rider...the discussion in the other thread relates to when it was repainted into fleet livery after being on Toon Link.

(16 Jun 2022, 4:06 pm)ian foster wrote I wonder if the 58 will get the new electric buses and the 57 could become the new East Rider now that 6154 has been repainted in fleet livery.

(16 Jun 2022, 4:09 pm)peter wrote I'm pretty sure 6154 is still in East Rider...the discussion in the other thread relates to when it was repainted into fleet livery after being on Toon Link.

Yes as Peter says 6154 was in Corp livery previously, now EG Rider. Sorry for any confusion.

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(16 Jun 2022, 1:05 pm)JP6004 wrote I'm getting flashbacks.

Would they still be at Blackburn if they weren't having centre doors removed?

Yeah I wondered if they’d went to Blackburn for the door conversion or simply because Saltmeadows is busy. 

One for Dan to confirm.

(16 Jun 2022, 3:53 pm)Jack Gill wrote I was thinking perhaps 1 could be used for the 58 as that will have a PVR increase?

Will the extra B9TL not likely come from the 47 as the 47 will either receive B5TLs or StreetDecks

(16 Jun 2022, 5:43 pm)L469 YVK wrote Will the extra B9TL not likely come from the 47 as the 47 will either receive B5TLs or StreetDecks

Has it actually been confirmed the 47 is getting new buses?

(16 Jun 2022, 5:58 pm)Jack Gill wrote Has it actually been confirmed the 47 is getting new buses?

Nope I don't believe any PVR allocation changes has been confirmed.

The only thing we know coming from these changes is certain route changes, proposed by DCC & Nexus.

(16 Jun 2022, 6:01 pm)Unber43 wrote Nope I don't believe any PVR allocation changes has been confirmed.

The only thing we know coming from these changes is certain route changes, proposed by DCC & Nexus.

the 47/47A will not need new vehicles. the 47 is going another way round Blackhill to cover the loss of the X46 in the area.

I'm rubbish with reg plate years... what year is 60 reg?

(16 Jun 2022, 7:13 pm)Michael wrote I'm rubbish with reg plate years... what year is 60 reg?

Oct/Nov 2010 - March 2011

(16 Jun 2022, 3:29 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote Or may replace the B7TL's at Riverside as there is 7:

WVL385 LX60DXT
WVL382 LX60DXP
WVL384 LX60DXS
WVL337 LX59DDJ
WVL383 LX60DXR
WVL381 LX60DXO
WVL380 LX60DXM

Was it not mentioned a few weeks back that the B7TL Geminis that were new to Go North East were getting Euro 6 Upgrades, not sure on the Ex London ones however despite being of the same age.

(16 Jun 2022, 7:14 pm)Unber43 wrote Oct/Nov 2010 - March 2011

Cheers.

Still a few years in them yet.

(16 Jun 2022, 7:13 pm)Michael wrote I'm rubbish with reg plate years... what year is 60 reg?

Little tip,

02 - 49 is the year it is
51 - 99 subtract 50 to get the year

So
02/52
03/53
04/54
and so on.

The first lot is always March to September, the second one is September to March the year after.

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Surprised there's not lots of people winging about London castoffs though like they do every time Arriva get them mind considering they're older than the most the stuff they get and should be withdrawn in 3 years on paper and no doubt won't have a full refurb either.

(16 Jun 2022, 7:13 pm)Michael wrote I'm rubbish with reg plate years... what year is 60 reg?

September 2010-February 2011

Thank you, good to know, no doubt i'll forget haha

(16 Jun 2022, 7:00 pm)KingSlayerRBLX wrote the 47/47A will not need new vehicles. the 47 is going another way round Blackhill to cover the loss of the X46 in the area.

Well I doubt 8x StreetDecks are just going to be allocated to a random route.

Given the high spec nature of these, will no doubt see these (+ 1x 67 plate or 6333) end up on the X21 with 6x B5TLs going the opposite way with the other 3x forming spares at Riverside for the 21 & X21.

(16 Jun 2022, 11:23 pm)L469 YVK wrote Well I doubt 8x StreetDecks are just going to be allocated to a random route.

Given the high spec nature of these, will no doubt see these (+ 1x 67 plate or 6333) end up on the X21 with 6x B5TLs going the opposite way with the other 3x forming spares at Riverside for the 21 & X21.

The 47 has only just hand vehicles branded, I can’t see them being taken off - it would be a bad look in current climate of cuts to the paint the 6 B9s again that have only just been painted. 

Where are these spare 8 StreetDecks coming from? If there’s spare deckers/xlines spec vehicles, will at least 2 of those not go to the X1? PVR is 14 but currently only 12 branded vehicles. Again X21 has only 7 branded for a PVR 9 and at least these would only need a partial repaint too.

(17 Jun 2022, 12:20 pm)Drifter60 wrote The 47 has only just hand vehicles branded, I can’t see them being taken off - it would be a bad look in current climate of cuts to the paint the 6 B9s again that have only just been painted.  

Where are these spare 8 StreetDecks coming from? If there’s spare deckers/xlines spec vehicles, will at least 2 of those not go to the X1? PVR is 14 but currently only 12 branded vehicles. Again X21 has only 7 branded for a PVR 9 and at least these would only need a partial repaint too.

I'm sure they could squeeze some more money out of the paint department budget. It's seemingly like a bottomless pit!

(17 Jun 2022, 12:20 pm)Drifter60 wrote Where are these spare 8 StreetDecks coming from? If there’s spare deckers/xlines spec vehicles, will at least 2 of those not go to the X1? PVR is 14 but currently only 12 branded vehicles. Again X21 has only 7 branded for a PVR 9 and at least these would only need a partial repaint too.

Refurb the ex-Castles Express ones, plus an Angel (isn't the 21's PVR set to go down)?

(by refurb I just mean retrim the seats, I think they're otherwise up to spec)

Well if the E400MMCs stay at Consett, they'll cover the X30/X31, X45/X71/X72 leaving 2x spare.

The 8x StreetDecks will then no longer be required for any XLines work out of Consett as such. Therefore given their high spec inside:

- 6356-63 + 6333 - X21
- 6308-13 - 47
- 6314, 6334, 6335 - Riverside spares for 21/X21
- 6331-32 - Washington spares
- 6377 - X1 (joining 6364-76)

Or......if the X30/X31 go standalone with evening & Sunday X30/X72 journeys ran by Riverside interworking with the 6 & 12:

- 6338-40 - X30/X31
- 6341-42 - Consett spares
- 6343-51 - X21
- 6356-63 + 6333 - X45/X71/X72
- 6331-32 - Washington spare
- 6377 - X1
- 6308-13 - 47
- 6314, 6334, 6335 - Riverside spares for 21/X21

If the 47 is to get a change in vehicle allocation I hope to god they ditch the old fashioned colours and long name and let it go Corporate.

(17 Jun 2022, 12:45 pm)L469 YVK wrote Well if the E400MMCs stay at Consett, they'll cover the X30/X31, X45/X71/X72 leaving 2x spare.

The 8x StreetDecks will then no longer be required for any XLines work out of Consett as such. Therefore given their high spec inside:

- 6356-63 + 6333 - X21
- 6308-13 - 47
- 6314, 6334, 6335 - Riverside spares for 21/X21
- 6331-32 - Washington spares
- 6377 - X1 (joining 6364-76)

Or......if the X30/X31 go standalone with evening & Sunday X30/X72 journeys ran by Riverside interworking with the 6 & 12:

- 6338-40 - X30/X31
- 6341-42 - Consett spares
- 6343-51 - X21
- 6356-63 + 6333 - X45/X71/X72
- 6331-32 - Washington spare
- 6377 - X1
- 6308-13 - 47
- 6314, 6334, 6335 - Riverside spares for 21/X21

I'd suggest just waiting to see what actually happens. Who's to say that any of the proposed changes for Consett will go ahead?

I do think there is a lot of jumping a head, personally I don't think we will see any reduction into the X45/46 service.

(17 Jun 2022, 2:43 pm)Dan wrote I'd suggest just waiting to see what actually happens. Who's to say that any of the proposed changes for Consett will go ahead?

Exactly. the changes were only suggested. not final. I can see the X46 possibly making its stay but defo not the X70, is a nice route but I dont think many do get on it for all the times i have been on it

I think the X70 will stay but will be partially funded using another method.