Disruptions and driver shortages
Disruptions and driver shortages
Durham isn't much better for buses on layover - Arriva seem to be treating North Road as a bus dumping ground, with the first few stands frequently being blocked by seemingly abandoned buses. Sutton Street isn't much better either.
(05 Jul 2022, 8:46 pm)wibblejunior Durham isn't much better for buses on layover - Arriva seem to be treating North Road as a bus dumping ground, with the first few stands frequently being blocked by seemingly abandoned buses. Sutton Street isn't much better either.
(05 Jul 2022, 8:46 pm)wibblejunior Durham isn't much better for buses on layover - Arriva seem to be treating North Road as a bus dumping ground, with the first few stands frequently being blocked by seemingly abandoned buses. Sutton Street isn't much better either.
(05 Jul 2022, 8:56 pm)Storx Is there actually anywhere for them to actually go?
Not rhetorical that just curious, can't really blame Arriva if Durham County Council hasn't actually setup anywhere for drivers to have breaks. It's always been a problem at Durham tbh.
(05 Jul 2022, 8:56 pm)Storx Is there actually anywhere for them to actually go?
Not rhetorical that just curious, can't really blame Arriva if Durham County Council hasn't actually setup anywhere for drivers to have breaks. It's always been a problem at Durham tbh.
(05 Jul 2022, 9:06 pm)Dan The problem at the moment is that Arriva are suffering from a staff shortage (contrary to popular belief, it’s not just Go North East cancelling services).
Because the bus station is shut, there is no where to park the buses. So they dump them on Sutton Street as much as possible, but once that is full, they need to use North Road.
(05 Jul 2022, 9:06 pm)Dan The problem at the moment is that Arriva are suffering from a staff shortage (contrary to popular belief, it’s not just Go North East cancelling services).
Because the bus station is shut, there is no where to park the buses. So they dump them on Sutton Street as much as possible, but once that is full, they need to use North Road.
(05 Jul 2022, 9:32 pm)Unber43 Is parking on Sutton Street not dangerous?Not really. The bit they park on is a very lightly used but wide side road which has a bus stop. You're probably thinking of the section leading onto the roundabout
(05 Jul 2022, 9:51 pm)Storx Yeah that's fair, knew there was problems at Darlington and Durham tbf.Problem with Durham is everything is timed in a sense where everything must run like clockwork which seems fine on paper but in reality doesn't always play ball, most stands during the daytime are a case of as soon as one bus departs, another should be pulling onto it, if anything is either a minute early or late then there's a blockade cos it can't get on (some stands you can kinda get away with pulling in behind the bus).
Thought it might have been an issue with reliefs aswell, I know there's been problems at Durham since forever with buses just been dumped on random stands.
(05 Jul 2022, 9:51 pm)Storx Yeah that's fair, knew there was problems at Darlington and Durham tbf.Problem with Durham is everything is timed in a sense where everything must run like clockwork which seems fine on paper but in reality doesn't always play ball, most stands during the daytime are a case of as soon as one bus departs, another should be pulling onto it, if anything is either a minute early or late then there's a blockade cos it can't get on (some stands you can kinda get away with pulling in behind the bus).
Thought it might have been an issue with reliefs aswell, I know there's been problems at Durham since forever with buses just been dumped on random stands.
(06 Jul 2022, 7:34 am)Jimmi Problem with Durham is everything is timed in a sense where everything must run like clockwork which seems fine on paper but in reality doesn't always play ball, most stands during the daytime are a case of as soon as one bus departs, another should be pulling onto it, if anything is either a minute early or late then there's a blockade cos it can't get on (some stands you can kinda get away with pulling in behind the bus).
7 now has to layover somewhere in Durham prior to departure as it has about 15 minutes turnaround time (usually has to set down behind one waiting to depart).
Arriva are always gonna be a more awkward one for dumping buses and such as with the exception of most trips on the 7 & X12 all their services in Durham is centred around it with changeovers and such occurring there whereas GNE services in Durham (except the 40/41/42 which avoid North Road) changeover elsewhere.
(06 Jul 2022, 7:34 am)Jimmi Problem with Durham is everything is timed in a sense where everything must run like clockwork which seems fine on paper but in reality doesn't always play ball, most stands during the daytime are a case of as soon as one bus departs, another should be pulling onto it, if anything is either a minute early or late then there's a blockade cos it can't get on (some stands you can kinda get away with pulling in behind the bus).
7 now has to layover somewhere in Durham prior to departure as it has about 15 minutes turnaround time (usually has to set down behind one waiting to depart).
Arriva are always gonna be a more awkward one for dumping buses and such as with the exception of most trips on the 7 & X12 all their services in Durham is centred around it with changeovers and such occurring there whereas GNE services in Durham (except the 40/41/42 which avoid North Road) changeover elsewhere.
First two 28As of the day cancelled. Good luck getting to school kids!
(06 Jul 2022, 11:29 pm)Unber43 Yeah I do, but sadly I need to check these cos I need to go out and I use GNE. And it literally takes a couple mins to check
(06 Jul 2022, 11:29 pm)Unber43 Yeah I do, but sadly I need to check these cos I need to go out and I use GNE. And it literally takes a couple mins to check
It is a bus forum where these things can and should be discussed, Dan. Rich of anyone on here to suggest that others should have better things to do.
Anyway, with the exception of someone capturing the cancellations page on the Wayback Machine, there's not really any other way to keep a public note of all this for the future.
(06 Jul 2022, 11:51 pm)omnicity4659 It is a bus forum where these things can and should be discussed, Dan. Rich of anyone on here to suggest that others should have better things to do.
Anyway, with the exception of someone capturing the cancellations page on the Wayback Machine, there's not really any other way to keep a public note of all this for the future.
(06 Jul 2022, 11:51 pm)omnicity4659 It is a bus forum where these things can and should be discussed, Dan. Rich of anyone on here to suggest that others should have better things to do.
Anyway, with the exception of someone capturing the cancellations page on the Wayback Machine, there's not really any other way to keep a public note of all this for the future.
(06 Jul 2022, 11:49 pm)Dan You seem to use a wide variety of different services, from all across the region and at different times of day. You must go out quite a lot!I do use a few regularly.
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(06 Jul 2022, 11:57 pm)Dan Can’t wait to come back to this thread in ten years time to find out that two 56s in a row were cancelled on Thursday 7 July 2022, with no further information than that.I did laugh at this
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(06 Jul 2022, 11:49 pm)Dan You seem to use a wide variety of different services, from all across the region and at different times of day. You must go out quite a lot!I do use a few regularly.
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(06 Jul 2022, 11:57 pm)Dan Can’t wait to come back to this thread in ten years time to find out that two 56s in a row were cancelled on Thursday 7 July 2022, with no further information than that.I did laugh at this
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(06 Jul 2022, 11:57 pm)Dan Can’t wait to come back to this thread in ten years time to find out that two 56s in a row were cancelled on Thursday 7 July 2022, with no further information than that.Maybe one should go on a Facebook page and take less than veiled ‘SOD’ pot shots at drivers upset their depot is closing instead?
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(06 Jul 2022, 11:57 pm)Dan Can’t wait to come back to this thread in ten years time to find out that two 56s in a row were cancelled on Thursday 7 July 2022, with no further information than that.Maybe one should go on a Facebook page and take less than veiled ‘SOD’ pot shots at drivers upset their depot is closing instead?
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(07 Jul 2022, 12:14 am)Ambassador Maybe one should go on a Facebook page and take less than veiled ‘SOD’ pot shots at drivers upset their depot is closing instead?
Far better use of time I’d imagine…
(07 Jul 2022, 12:14 am)Ambassador Maybe one should go on a Facebook page and take less than veiled ‘SOD’ pot shots at drivers upset their depot is closing instead?
Far better use of time I’d imagine…
(06 Jul 2022, 11:57 pm)Dan Can’t wait to come back to this thread in ten years time to find out that two 56s in a row were cancelled on Thursday 7 July 2022, with no further information than that.Maybe not, but people might want to recall the summer when bus services were really unreliable and a series of comments highlights that. It's obviously one of those situations where your professional and enthusiast sides sit uncomfortably together but that doesn't mean that this tiny part of what will be transport history needs to be glossed over.
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(06 Jul 2022, 11:57 pm)Dan Can’t wait to come back to this thread in ten years time to find out that two 56s in a row were cancelled on Thursday 7 July 2022, with no further information than that.Maybe not, but people might want to recall the summer when bus services were really unreliable and a series of comments highlights that. It's obviously one of those situations where your professional and enthusiast sides sit uncomfortably together but that doesn't mean that this tiny part of what will be transport history needs to be glossed over.
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