(01 Sep 2022, 7:18 pm)F114TML wrote Why? They're not changing as many services, and the only major change is withdrawing the 22 from Cobalt on sundays. The 317 was already consulted on.I agree. Too many ‘bus spotters’ want changes for the sake of bus spotting. You ain’t going to find it with SNE.
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation/it...ervice-317
Also, they're still short on drivers so not much point increasing the service.
(01 Sep 2022, 5:41 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Proposed changes to the Teesside network from October 23rdIt would seem Hartlepool at least for the time been is staying as it is as nothing so far as it would have been done at the same time. The 36 been extended back to the Marina is a positive though as it currently just sits on Stockton Street or blocks the stands on Victoria Road while having a layover. This is pretty much all positive changes though.
https://www.stagecoachbus.com/promos-and...tober-2022
(01 Sep 2022, 6:13 pm)Dyllan7817 wrote Some pretty decent changes the 57 sounds interesting aswell
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(02 Sep 2022, 6:16 pm)tyresmoke wrote Only issue with that is the people on the new piece of route (and the existing route to be fair) are going to find a very odd 24/36 min split in their service… not that anyone would notice given the reliability of the 58 currently…Same situation with the 12 and 13 in Sunderland. 12 is twice-hourly, 13 is thrice-hourly; combining to every 12 minutes.
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(02 Sep 2022, 6:20 pm)F114TML wrote Same situation with the 12 and 13 in Sunderland. 12 is twice-hourly, 13 is thrice-hourly; combining to every 12 minutes.
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(01 Sep 2022, 11:27 pm)col87 wrote It would seem Hartlepool at least for the time been is staying as it is as nothing so far as it would have been done at the same time. The 36 been extended back to the Marina is a positive though as it currently just sits on Stockton Street or blocks the stands on Victoria Road while having a layover. This is pretty much all positive changes though.Hartlepool changes are there. Where it says ‘Teesside’, in the HTML table , click and change to Hartlepool. service 1 changing route in High Tunstall , plus an evening experimental service between Throston Grange and Seaton Carew.
(05 Sep 2022, 5:35 am)Economic505 wrote Hartlepool changes are there. Where it says ‘Teesside’, in the HTML table , click and change to Hartlepool. service 1 changing route in High Tunstall , plus an evening experimental service between Throston Grange and Seaton Carew.Yeah have just seen it’s only recently been added but great news that it’s actually improvements rather than a decrease in services. Other than the 1 getting an evening service it’s pretty much remaining the same which is great as most of the town has at least a half hourly service Monday - Saturday. It’s only the villages of Dalton Piecy and Elwick which still have next to no service.
(19 Sep 2022, 12:15 am)Acky81 wrote These stagecoach Sunderland changes must be coming soon. I hope they totally give the network a full refresh. New routes new route numbers and improved frequenciesWhy change route numbers, the changes are mainly to even out to a 15 minute average, less 4's, 16's and 20's
(19 Sep 2022, 7:55 am)54APhotography wrote Why change route numbers, the changes are mainly to even out to a 15 minute average, less 4's, 16's and 20's
(19 Sep 2022, 12:15 am)Acky81 wrote These stagecoach Sunderland changes must be coming soon. I hope they totally give the network a full refresh. New routes new route numbers and improved frequenciesWhy change the route numbers? It doesn't feel to me that the network needs a refresh, but apparently the 18 is under threat (what a surprise).
(19 Sep 2022, 7:55 am)54APhotography wrote Why change route numbers, the changes are mainly to even out to a 15 minute average, less 4's, 16's and 20'sJust think it makes sense have numbers in sync. Numbers could be next to each other that serve estates
(19 Sep 2022, 8:40 am)F114TML wrote Why change the route numbers? It doesn't feel to me that the network needs a refresh, but apparently the 18 is under threat (what a surprise).18 should of been binned off with the 19years ago
(19 Sep 2022, 11:58 am)Acky81 wrote Just think it makes sense have numbers in sync. Numbers could be next to each other that serve estatesWe don’t need new route numbers. Some of the current route numbers have been established for years. We have seen the mess that route tinkering has done to GNE. As for the 18 route, surely some of it must be retained.
1/2 Farringdon
3/4 Doxford park
5/6 grangetown
7/8 Thorney close
9/10 pennywell
11/12 dene estate- seaburn
just a thought
18 should of been binned off with the 19years ago
(19 Sep 2022, 11:58 am)Acky81 wrote Just think it makes sense have numbers in sync. Numbers could be next to each other that serve estatesYeah cos that's not confusing "The 3 now goes to Doxy and the old 3 is now the 1, also there's 2 2s". Now how about the 10 and 11 that go to both Grangetown and Pennywell?
1/2 Farringdon
3/4 Doxford park
5/6 grangetown
7/8 Thorney close
9/10 pennywell
11/12 dene estate- seaburn
(19 Sep 2022, 8:00 am)Michael wrote When are these changes happening?End of the month. also proposed is 10/11 lose a bus an hour, which still affords a very frequent service from Grangetown and Pallion. Bonus is a drive to remove the Manviros.
Haven't seen out on VOSA or the Stagecoach site yet.
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(19 Sep 2022, 12:15 pm)54APhotography wrote End of the month. also proposed is 10/11 lose a bus an hour, which still affords a very frequent service from Grangetown and Pallion. Bonus is a drive to remove the Manviros.I've heard they're eyeing up more gas buses (presumably Scania Fencers) to replace them but whether that actually happens or not...
(19 Sep 2022, 12:17 pm)F114TML wrote I think the 18 will become a secured service tbh, or maybe they'll make changes (split it into two routes?) - all I know is in its current state it's under threat. Thing is, like I said earlier, it connects the hospital with loads of places but the trouble is it's something of a magical mystery tour.Yes, Scania and MAN both explored, Busways plan remains to have Sunderland all CNG
I've heard they're eyeing up more gas buses (presumably Scania Fencers) to replace them but whether that actually happens or not...
(19 Sep 2022, 12:49 pm)54APhotography wrote Yes, Scania and MAN both explored, Busways plan remains to have Sunderland all CNGYeah, good idea IMO. The current gas buses are lovely to drive, too. Having said that, apparently Stagecoach are meant to be all-electric by 2035, not quite sure how that's going to work given the regional nature of a lot of their other divisions.
(19 Sep 2022, 12:14 pm)F114TML wrote Yeah cos that's not confusing "The 3 now goes to Doxy and the old 3 is now the 1, also there's 2 2s". Now how about the 10 and 11 that go to both Grangetown and Pennywell?
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