Isn't the hydrogen decker due in soon for a trial or is that no longer a thing?

Would love to see a 36s Saturday and Sunday service connecting the route hourly to Teesside Park, go via Thornaby rail station rather than Tees Barrage so it's not stepping too much on Arrivas toes (Teesside Park seems fair game since Tees Flex and Arriva go there regular). and it be decker operated maybe.

i think its moved on now somewhere down south

Yes that right mate

i think its moved on now somewhere down south

yes I think mid July it went down to Brighton and hove

Yes Stagecoach I believe are operating 3 routes this year for UTC college.
They ran one from Yarm & Stockton last year.
Additionally Stockton also operate two routes to Sedgefield School


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Unless there is an error in Bus Times, it appears there are 4 UTC routes being operated by Stagecoach this year

The previous route between Eaglescliffe and UTC remains but is now joined by a second route from Eaglescliffe, which starts further down towards Yarm at Butts Lane (the original route starts at the Golf Club) and shares the same route as far as Ropner Park when the new service runs via Hartburn Village, Green Lane, Farifield Road, Rimswell Road, Darlington Back Lane, Harrowgate Lane, Durham Road, A1027, Wolviston Road, A689, Wynyard Service Station, A689 Coal Lane, A689 Hartlepool Road, The Wynd, Wynyard Woods, The Wynd, A689 Hartlepool Road and A689 Sedgefield Bypass before sharing the same route from Bradbury to UTC as the original via the A1(M).
The third Stockton-operated service runs from Hundens Park to UTC via Hundens Lane, Yarm Road, Neasham Road, Geneva Road, Yarm Road, A66, Neasham Road, Hurworth, Hurworth Road, Croft-on-Tees, Tees View, Croft Road, Carmel Road South, Carmel Road North, Woodland Road, Cockerton Green, Prior Street, West Auckland Road, Coatsay Moor Lane, Heighington, Redworth Road, Heighington Lane and Long Tens Way.
UTC - Eaglescliffe - Thornaby - South Durham UTC – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org

Addiitonally, Hartlepool are operating a fourth UTC from Hartlepool to UTC via Foggy Furze, Rifthouse, West Park, Throston Grange, West View, Hart Station, Crimdon Dene, Blackhall Rocks, Horden, Little Thorpe, Easington Village, Haswell, Easington Lane, Hetton-le-Hill, High Pittington, Low Pittington, Belmont, Durham City Retail Park, Rennys Lane Tesco Extra, Sherburn Village, Byers Garth, Bowburn Hall, Bowburn Co-op, Coxhoe, Kelloe, Town Kelloe, Trimdon Grange, Trimdon Village Crossroads, Fishburn, Sedgefield and Bradbury.
UTC - Hartlepool - Easington Lane – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org
UTCC - Easington Lane - South Durham UTC – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org

Unless there is an error in Bus Times, it appears there are 4 UTC routes being operated by Stagecoach this year

The previous route between Eaglescliffe and UTC remains but is now joined by a second route from Eaglescliffe, which starts further down towards Yarm at Butts Lane (the original route starts at the Golf Club) and shares the same route as far as Ropner Park when the new service runs via Hartburn Village, Green Lane, Farifield Road, Rimswell Road, Darlington Back Lane, Harrowgate Lane, Durham Road, A1027, Wolviston Road, A689, Wynyard Service Station, A689 Coal Lane, A689 Hartlepool Road, The Wynd, Wynyard Woods, The Wynd, A689 Hartlepool Road and A689 Sedgefield Bypass before sharing the same route from Bradbury to UTC as the original via the A1(M).
The third Stockton-operated service runs from Hundens Park to UTC via Hundens Lane, Yarm Road, Neasham Road, Geneva Road, Yarm Road, A66, Neasham Road, Hurworth, Hurworth Road, Croft-on-Tees, Tees View, Croft Road, Carmel Road South, Carmel Road North, Woodland Road, Cockerton Green, Prior Street, West Auckland Road, Coatsay Moor Lane, Heighington, Redworth Road, Heighington Lane and Long Tens Way.
UTC - Eaglescliffe - Thornaby - South Durham UTC – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org

Addiitonally, Hartlepool are operating a fourth UTC from Hartlepool to UTC via Foggy Furze, Rifthouse, West Park, Throston Grange, West View, Hart Station, Crimdon Dene, Blackhall Rocks, Horden, Little Thorpe, Easington Village, Haswell, Easington Lane, Hetton-le-Hill, High Pittington, Low Pittington, Belmont, Durham City Retail Park, Rennys Lane Tesco Extra, Sherburn Village, Byers Garth, Bowburn Hall, Bowburn Co-op, Coxhoe, Kelloe, Town Kelloe, Trimdon Grange, Trimdon Village Crossroads, Fishburn, Sedgefield and Bradbury.
UTC - Hartlepool - Easington Lane – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org
UTCC - Easington Lane - South Durham UTC – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org

What is the point in this UTC? These routes could actually be really good if they were actual routes for Public service.

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Unless there is an error in Bus Times, it appears there are 4 UTC routes being operated by Stagecoach this year

The previous route between Eaglescliffe and UTC remains but is now joined by a second route from Eaglescliffe, which starts further down towards Yarm at Butts Lane (the original route starts at the Golf Club) and shares the same route as far as Ropner Park when the new service runs via Hartburn Village, Green Lane, Farifield Road, Rimswell Road, Darlington Back Lane, Harrowgate Lane, Durham Road, A1027, Wolviston Road, A689, Wynyard Service Station, A689 Coal Lane, A689 Hartlepool Road, The Wynd, Wynyard Woods, The Wynd, A689 Hartlepool Road and A689 Sedgefield Bypass before sharing the same route from Bradbury to UTC as the original via the A1(M).
The third Stockton-operated service runs from Hundens Park to UTC via Hundens Lane, Yarm Road, Neasham Road, Geneva Road, Yarm Road, A66, Neasham Road, Hurworth, Hurworth Road, Croft-on-Tees, Tees View, Croft Road, Carmel Road South, Carmel Road North, Woodland Road, Cockerton Green, Prior Street, West Auckland Road, Coatsay Moor Lane, Heighington, Redworth Road, Heighington Lane and Long Tens Way.
UTC - Eaglescliffe - Thornaby - South Durham UTC – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org

Addiitonally, Hartlepool are operating a fourth UTC from Hartlepool to UTC via Foggy Furze, Rifthouse, West Park, Throston Grange, West View, Hart Station, Crimdon Dene, Blackhall Rocks, Horden, Little Thorpe, Easington Village, Haswell, Easington Lane, Hetton-le-Hill, High Pittington, Low Pittington, Belmont, Durham City Retail Park, Rennys Lane Tesco Extra, Sherburn Village, Byers Garth, Bowburn Hall, Bowburn Co-op, Coxhoe, Kelloe, Town Kelloe, Trimdon Grange, Trimdon Village Crossroads, Fishburn, Sedgefield and Bradbury.
UTC - Hartlepool - Easington Lane – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org
UTCC - Easington Lane - South Durham UTC – Stagecoach North East – bustimes.org

Finally a service uses that Road next to Heron Foods

There is also a service named;
UTCC operated by Hartlepool depot BNY is on the route now

39719 is working from Sunderland today and is on the 23. Not sure if its a loan or transfer though

Apparently nobody had a decker to spare for Hartlepool so 36093 is the dedicated bus for UTC

Seems there's an error on Bus Times (and also on Stagecoach's website) - there's only one UTC service from Eaglescliffe, the current one. Meaning, Stockton operate 2 - the Eaglescliffe and Darlington trips, yesterday afternoon using 2 MMCs (although they didn't track as UTC) and of course Hartlepool are using 36093 (likely the only vehicle at Hartlepool to have had the screen update to have UTC programmed in - since Hartlepool's fleet still have the September 2020 update loaded in, so still state 'Face Masks Required')

Apparently nobody had a decker to spare for Hartlepool so 36093 is the dedicated bus for UTC

Likelihood is that there isn't a spare decker in the region - Newcastle have their own scholars to cover, likewise South Shields and Sunderland. Stockton, of course, seem to be using their E400s on service work rather than UTCs, given 19680 has spent the last two days on a 58 board that also works the first 35 into Stockton.

Hartlepool's destinations have been updated at the weekend. I now find myself with an option of using "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" (from Owton Manor) or strangely "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" (from Clavering).

I don't get why they don't run these deckers on the school run on the 35?

I don't get why they don't run these deckers on the school run on the 35?

Because for the rest of the day the 35 would probably cope using Optare Solos?

12078 had a coming together with a bus stop on Blackett Street this morning.

Hartlepool's destinations have been updated at the weekend. I now find myself with an option of using "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" (from Owton Manor) or strangely "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" (from Clavering).

It’s been like that since 2018 though.

Because for the rest of the day the 35 would probably cope using Optare Solos?

Yes ik that bus Double deckers around the country are empty anyway most days but this morning and yesterday was absolutely ridiculous bus driver was getting all angry because imaprentlt we had to "move back" bear in mind we were standing from the back of the bus to the doors at he front of this tiny e300 it was absolutely shocking the bus driver kept shouting got out of his cab just to realise that we couldn't move back. It is getting ridiculous especially with the 50 new year sevens

Yes ik that bus Double deckers around the country are empty anyway most days but this morning and yesterday was absolutely ridiculous bus driver was getting all angry because imaprentlt we had to "move back" bear in mind we were standing from the back of the bus to the doors at he front of this tiny e300 it was absolutely shocking the bus driver kept shouting got out of his cab just to realise that we couldn't move back. It is getting ridiculous especially with the 50 new year sevens

to be honest after COVID a lot of divisions are actually trying to get bigger vehicles and it does make sense, two or three of the divisions down south  (south downs  covering parts of HANTS and surrey was one i believe  i believe though i could be wrong) has pretty much got rid of or are in the process of trying to most of its mini buses and traded them for midi buses, when i worked at slatyford one of the engineers said unless there's a specific problem with a vehicle the fuel efficiency will only go down with age and the load it is carrying.

to be honest after COVID a lot of divisions are actually trying to get bigger vehicles and it does make sense, two or three of the divisions down south  (south downs  covering parts of HANTS and surrey was one i believe  i believe though i could be wrong) has pretty much got rid of or are in the process of trying to most of its mini buses and traded them for midi buses, when i worked at slatyford one of the engineers said unless there's a specific problem with a vehicle the fuel efficiency will only go down with age and the load it is carrying.

Wha they could do is get a batch of Solo/Sr up to Stockton and Pools pools cma run them on most services and Stocktin can use them for the 58/59/61

I don't know much about these 35 runs but it sounds like there should be a dedicated school bus running on it imo.

Something like the 28S which duplicates the 28 with GNE - https://bustimes.org/services/28s-pelton-birtley

Yes but the 35 isn't Meant to be a school route the school runs are 7:52 and 15:00 runs from Stockton-Wplviston Court stopping at Northfield School and Sports College . During the day it is quite empty but can get quite full during the day

Yes but the 35 isn't Meant to be a school route the school runs are 7:52 and 15:00 runs from Stockton-Wplviston Court stopping at Northfield School and Sports College . During the day it is quite empty but can get quite full during the day

That’s been like that for many years, even when I used to drive them 10 years ago. Could do with a duplicate but who’s going to pay for the extra bus & driver required? Stagecoach won’t so it won’t happen. There are equal problems where other services hit schools at finish time, the 12, 36, 52, 59, 61 all have similar issues.


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That’s been like that for many years, even when I used to drive them 10 years ago. Could do with a duplicate but who’s going to pay for the extra bus & driver required? Stagecoach won’t so it won’t happen. There are equal problems where other services hit schools at finish time, the 12, 36, 52, 59, 61 all have similar issues.


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Ooo u used yo be rx bus driver?

As confirmed by Lee Wardle on Buses Northeast Facebook group, further MAN E300s due to transfer from Carlisle are 22885 (SP09 DSE), 24122 (PX59 AZL) and 24169 (PO59 MXC).

It’s been like that since 2018 though.

Really? I'd never noticed until last week. I saw a "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" and used that in the past and don't remember an option of where I'm coming from. But then it's only been the past month I've been doing those runs multiple times per day.

As confirmed by Lee Wardle on Buses Northeast Facebook group, further MAN E300s due to transfer from Carlisle are 22885 (SP09 DSE), 24122 (PX59 AZL) and 24169 (PO59 MXC).

well at the current rate at least we can look forward to 2027-2029 when we have 35 odd vehicles that are 20 odd years old to replace

Really? I'd never noticed until last week. I saw a "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" and used that in the past and don't remember an option of where I'm coming from. But then it's only been the past month I've been doing those runs multiple times per day.

Before the 6 was reintroduced between town and Clavering on a night the 2155 service 7 from The Headland only operated as far as the college of FE Sunday to Thursday evening

are 10651, 11283 and 11284 permanently transferred to south shields or sunderland? they feel like they have been there ages

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184063238@...9aJLxFpHu8
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184063238@...gubJAKaASo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184063238@...5k6eDiIUOI

are 10651,  11283 and 11284 permanently transferred to south shields or sunderland? they feel like they have been there ages

https://www.flickr.com/photos/184063238@...9aJLxFpHu8
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184063238@...gubJAKaASo
https://www.flickr.com/photos/184063238@...5k6eDiIUOI

Looking at BUSTIMES for 7 September, the date of your photos, they are still allocated to Newcastle depots but venture south of the Tyne to work scholars' services. The rest of the day they are back on their usual routes.

Before the 6 was reintroduced between town and Clavering on a night the 2155 service 7 from The Headland only operated as far as the college of FE Sunday to Thursday evening

It's the destination choices I'm getting at, not the route. Before last week I sure I only had one "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" to use rather than the choice of "from Owton Manor" and "from Clavering" that we have now.

It's the destination choices I'm getting at, not the route. Before last week I sure I only had one "7 Hartlepool Town Centre" to use rather than the choice of "from Owton Manor" and "from Clavering" that we have now.

Definitely not a recent change. The ‘7’ is my local route and in Hartlepool.

Definitely not a recent change. The ‘7’ is my local route and in Hartlepool.

He's referring to the fact that previously, there was only one 'Hartlepool Town Centre' option in the destination list whereas now there's the option for one 'from Owton Manor' and one 'from The Headland' - more so linked to the fact Hartlepool share a list with Stockton who, due to the MMCs having next stop announcements, have similar on a number of their cross-town services (36/37/38 and their numerous 'Stockton' screens).