(14 Sep 2022, 6:43 pm)TEN 6083 wrote It’s getting a bit ridiculous now tbh. I’ve seen posts of:

- funerals being cancelled
- operations being cancelled
- cancer treatments cancelled
- some petrol stations closed
- food banks closed

What’re they going to do next, the NHS come out and say don’t get ill or have a baby that day as there’ll be no doctors or midwives working that day as a “mark of respect”. The REAL reason they’re all jumping on the bandwagon of mass hysteria is because they don’t want bad press calling them out saying “they’re being disrespectful”.

Petrol stations and shops need to remain open as they are essential services. The entire situation is getting on my nerves now. I’m all for respecting Her Majesty for all she has done over the past 70 years but not at the expense of people’s livelihoods and especially with the current cost of living crisis as people will possibly lose out on wages.


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Basically this!
Like I said further up, they aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. And it's not necessarily because it makes them look good, but because they think they'll look bad if they don't. And those professional complainers, sorry, journalists, will see them as an easy target to get a few clicks for the Ronnie Gill!

Every company has blacked out their profiles on the socials, why? Not because of respect, but because others have and they don't want to be seen as not doing it.
It's exactly the same as Pride month when everyone adds a rainbow. They aren't doing it because they support the LGBTQs, they're doing it because if they don't, then they think it'll look like they don't support them.

(14 Sep 2022, 6:43 pm)TEN 6083 wrote It’s getting a bit ridiculous now tbh. I’ve seen posts of:

- funerals being cancelled
- operations being cancelled
- cancer treatments cancelled
- some petrol stations closed
- food banks closed

What’re they going to do next, the NHS come out and say don’t get ill or have a baby that day as there’ll be no doctors or midwives working that day as a “mark of respect”. The REAL reason they’re all jumping on the bandwagon of mass hysteria is because they don’t want bad press calling them out saying “they’re being disrespectful”.

Petrol stations and shops need to remain open as they are essential services. The entire situation is getting on my nerves now. I’m all for respecting Her Majesty for all she has done over the past 70 years but not at the expense of people’s livelihoods and especially with the current cost of living crisis as people will possibly lose out on wages.

A lot of these companies seem to think everyone will want to sit and watch the funeral when that is clearly not the case from what I’ve seen on various social media platforms. Some people actually do want to go to work and earn money to keep a roof over their heads and their PR obsessed bosses are too blind to see it.

The Nisa Local across the road from my place will only be closed during the funeral service and then it reopens at 2pm. This is what food shops / stores should be doing not closed for the entire day.


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Surprised GNE are running any services. 

Tho it could be due to there cyber attack they can't use their systems or something like that. I need that cancellation list back, nothing worse than waiting 45 mins for a bus which is meant to be every 15, the stupid 20.

(14 Sep 2022, 7:00 pm)Unber43 wrote Surprised GNE are running any services. 

Tho it could be due to there cyber attack they can't use their systems or something like that. I need that cancellation list back, nothing worse than waiting 45 mins for a bus which is meant to be every 15, the stupid 20.

Why are you surprised.  I have not seen anything from either Stagecoach or Arriva up here to say they are not operating?

The cyber attack has not stopped GNE from running services up until now, so why would it stop them on this day.

(14 Sep 2022, 7:14 pm)citaro5284 wrote Why are you surprised.  I have not seen anything from either Stagecoach or Arriva up here to say they are not operating?

The cyber attack has not stopped GNE from running services up until now, so why would it stop them on this day.

It was because GNE Deptford ran Sunday services cos the match at Wembley.

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment

(14 Sep 2022, 4:56 pm)Adrian wrote I've seen some foodbanks are also opting to close, which is absolutely bonkers given the reasons why they exist in the first place.

Some businesses seem to have gone mad over this. The Center Parcs fiasco is a prime example of it and has ultimately ended up being a PR disaster for them as a company. I wonder who ever thought it'd be a good idea to ask guests to leave mid-break for 24 hours, find somewhere else to sleep, then come back and 'enjoy' the rest of their holiday. 

People already being force-fed coverage of this around the clock and now they're being pushed into spending their day in a sombre fashion, because at this rate they'll not be able to do anything else. Add people being arrested for protesting to the list, and it's becoming more-and-more authoritarian by the day.

I was originally meant to be travelling to Nottingham on Monday but considering that I am going to be left with several hours of everything being shuttered up its not going to be worth it, shame that when I contacted Northern this afternoon to seek about refunds for train travel, their customer services came back to me unsure what action they're even meant to be taking and suggest I ring their customer relations number, bad enough I don't particularly know what I'm doing considering all their website has on the matter is a dummies guide for how to get to/from London for the funeral full of insights such as London may be busy... geez, ya think?!!!

I found the news sad but expecting us to be sombre for nearly a fortnight is too much, its actually impacting my mental health as its just leading me to think of death and all that goes with it wether that be for myself or others I actually know which I will have to encounter in future, bad enough I already had death on my mind after a near miss from a car in Glasgow a few days prior.

The authoritarianism is unbearable, social media for me has been the same for the most part as it's all very much not allowed to say or do anything that disrespects her majesty, I'm not going round celebrating her death like that woman with a chip shop in Scotland was but feel like I'm going to get hell for the stupidest things, even making a comment about bus companies putting special destinations showing condolences seems off limits even though I've always held the stance of showing anything but the service indicator and service shouldn't be done, this post alone is probs enough to upset people I know.

Just want it done with as the atmosphere rn is unbearable.

(14 Sep 2022, 7:18 pm)Unber43 wrote It was because GNE Deptford ran Sunday services cos the match at Wembley.

It was a tongue-in-cheek comment

I forgot about that absolute gem!

(14 Sep 2022, 7:30 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I forgot about that absolute gem!

Due to an outbreak of national mourning, we will have to our service levels to that of a Sunday service on Monday 19th September

R.I.P. Lizzy

(14 Sep 2022, 7:44 pm)Jimmi wrote Due to an outbreak of national mourning, we will have to our service levels to that of a Sunday service on Monday 19th September

R.I.P. Lizzy

More like 


Due to an outbreak of national mourning, we will have to our service levels to that of a Christmas Day service on Monday 19th September.

(14 Sep 2022, 7:58 pm)Unber43 wrote More like 


Due to an outbreak of national mourning, we will have to our service levels to that of a Christmas Day service on Monday 19th September.

Surely it'd be a national breakdown?

(14 Sep 2022, 5:00 pm)Adrian wrote More shops to close, but pubs to stay open?

The shops that are closing sell essentials. I'd argue for Christmas Day and Easter Sunday, you already know well in advance that they're going to be closed. You've got less than a weeks notice with this, and many families live day-by-day in terms of budgeting and putting food on the table.

I must say I think the comment about shopping day to day and budgeting is a stretching it. Getting to the shops each day (unless you’re walking) is going to cost something, bus fare/petrol. Which isn’t the best way to run a budget, plan meals and do a modest weekly shop, or at least a few days worth. And even if you’re walking, the vast majority don’t close to a ‘big supermarket’ so you’re probably going to the spar or coop who are Convenience Stores and they charge a premium.

Most people usually say the opposite about giving staff a day off - advocating for more places to shut on Boxing Day etc. it’s strange how there’s the completely opposite take on this for this one day. There’s enough of advance notice too for people to shop the day or a couple of days before, if they usually shop on Mondays. Also Asda at least are opening later on that day, from 5pm.

(14 Sep 2022, 5:26 pm)streetdeckfan wrote I go on Twitter and literally everything is about the bloody Queen, it's taking the piss at this point! I don't need live updates about where, for lack of a better phrase, a rotting corpse is! Why people are queuing up for 5 miles is beyond me, you might as well go to a butchers! I'm glad I'm not paying for a TV license because I'd want a refund, all they've been doing is regurgitating the same crap for the last week.

I've got my 93rd COVID booster booked in for Monday and I hope to god they don't have a TV on in the waiting area! Actually, I'm half expecting to get a phone call saying they've cancelled it out of respect!

You don’t need to be a royal watcher or even remotely interested to be respectful either. ‘Rotting corpse’, ‘bloody’ I wouldn’t particularly use that sort of language against any dead person, let alone a public figure. I appreciate nonetheless the ‘official period of mourning’ and such does jar a little with society in 2022. I myself aren’t someone who has been particular effected or seemed out coverage on this, but this is a moment in history.

But you’ve also answered your own question as to why TV coverage is so extensive. Queue sare there because people lots and lots of people do care, not everyone will be able to get to London so hence the tv coverage too. And in 2022 there’s no excuse really to be arguing with the lack of tv options, Channel 4 have been almost normal schedules since the Thursday evening, BBC 2 returned to ‘normal programming’ on Friday albeit with some BBC 1 shows airing their too. And the umpteen digital channels across Freeview and Sky largely haven’t changed their programme either.

You think shops were being shut for 2 weeks, it's one day. Most people, especially those who generally shop during the day - Mondays are always quiet anyway, will be watching the Queens Funeral so there's no point being open.

Do people not work on here or something as it seems like everyone has Monday - Friday free to do whatever they want?... There also seems to be a lot of Monday shoppers on here.

Then again this is the place where people think there should be an extensive Christmas Day bus service so they can get some rare workings and ride on buses when everyone else is celebrating with their family.

(14 Sep 2022, 9:17 pm)Drifter60 wrote I must say I think the comment about shopping day to day and budgeting is a stretching it. Getting to the shops each day (unless you’re walking) is going to cost something, bus fare/petrol. Which isn’t the best way to run a budget, plan meals and do a modest weekly shop, or at least a few days worth. And even if you’re walking, the vast majority don’t close to a ‘big supermarket’ so you’re probably going to the spar or coop who are Convenience Stores and they charge a premium.

I don't intend to turn the thread into a discussion on poverty, but in reply to this; it's not stretching it at all, when you have almost 15 million people living in poverty in the UK. You might find it easy to say what you believe people should be doing differently, but the reality of it is much different - which you'll find out from talking to people and trying to understand.

Anyone who isn't living under a rock would have seen how energy bills have risen this year, which often leaves those living in poverty (and using pre-payment meters) the choice between energy or food. They struggle to forecast whether they need energy credit, and the outcome of that factors what budget they'll have for food and other essentials.

Of course, there's sometimes an educational disadvantage, which can impact decision making. But isn't as simple as telling people they should budget better, plan meals or do a weekly shop, when they're living on so little money.

(14 Sep 2022, 9:40 pm)Storx wrote You think shops were being shut for 2 weeks, it's one day. Most people, especially those who generally shop during the day - Mondays are always quiet anyway, will be watching the Queens Funeral so there's no point being open.

Do people not work on here or something as it seems like everyone has Monday - Friday free to do whatever they want?... There also seems to be a lot of Monday shoppers on here.

Then again this is the place where people think there should be an extensive Christmas Day bus service so they can get some rare workings and ride on buses when everyone else is celebrating with their family.

It's a bit flippant to suggest that a Christmas Day bus service would only benefit enthusiasts, isn't it? It completely dismisses the idea that having even a skeleton service is of benefit to the communities served. The idea that people want to spend the day sitting in their house on a bank holiday is as outdated as the idea that everyone goes to Church on a Sunday.

Most of us don't have Monday to Friday free to do what we want. Some will only have Sunday evening and through to Monday evening as a rest day, for example, and then go back to providing critical services. It's why it's a complete nonsense shutting essential services, in some authoritarian manner to force people to watch the funeral of an outdated concept.

As much as you may want to add jibes to suggest that people don't work, the reality is that everyone's circumstances are different.

(15 Sep 2022, 10:01 am)Adrian wrote It's a bit flippant to suggest that a Christmas Day bus service would only benefit enthusiasts, isn't it? It completely dismisses the idea that having even a skeleton service is of benefit to the communities served. The idea that people want to spend the day sitting in their house on a bank holiday is as outdated as the idea that everyone goes to Church on a Sunday.

Most of us don't have Monday to Friday free to do what we want. Some will only have Sunday evening and through to Monday evening as a rest day, for example, and then go back to providing critical services. It's why it's a complete nonsense shutting essential services, in some authoritarian manner to force people to watch the funeral of an outdated concept.

As much as you may want to add jibes to suggest that people don't work, the reality is that everyone's circumstances are different.

I have to agree to disagree on the Christmas Day front, there's no demand for it. The bus network up here is all geared to head towards large towns and cities where no-one wants to be on Christmas Day so they will cart around fresh air. Not to mention who's going to drive these, the vast majority of people want to spend time with their family and friends, instead you now want to drag them to drive buses or work in the engineering department to carry single figures all day.

On the bank holiday front, Christmas Day and next Monday are different. Next Monday is for mourning a Queen, who a lot of the country massively respected - there's currently 3 hour queues in London to see her coffin which shows how much people do care.

If you don't want to mourn the Queen that's your choice but don't expect people to go out their way to cater for you, there's plenty stuff people can do; go walk along the beach, go climb a hill, go visit the park, go visit friends and family, heck go take photos of buses etc. There's 363 other days to go shopping at John Lewis or Next, some supermarkets are open after 5pm for those who need shopping. It's the same hours as a Sunday just later - 6 hours.

Now outdated Sunday trading laws is another debate altogether but that's for another thread.

(14 Sep 2022, 6:43 pm)TEN 6083 wrote It’s getting a bit ridiculous now tbh. I’ve seen posts of:

- funerals being cancelled
- operations being cancelled
- cancer treatments cancelled
- some petrol stations closed
- food banks closed

What’re they going to do next, the NHS come out and say don’t get ill or have a baby that day as there’ll be no doctors or midwives working that day as a “mark of respect”. The REAL reason they’re all jumping on the bandwagon of mass hysteria is because they don’t want bad press calling them out saying “they’re being disrespectful”.

Petrol stations and shops need to remain open as they are essential services. The entire situation is getting on my nerves now. I’m all for respecting Her Majesty for all she has done over the past 70 years but not at the expense of people’s livelihoods and especially with the current cost of living crisis as people will possibly lose out on wages.

A lot of these companies seem to think everyone will want to sit and watch the funeral when that is clearly not the case from what I’ve seen on various social media platforms. Some people actually do want to go to work and earn money to keep a roof over their heads and their PR obsessed bosses are too blind to see it.

The Nisa Local across the road from my place will only be closed during the funeral service and then it reopens at 2pm. This is what food shops / stores should be doing not closed for the entire day.


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Business as usual for patient services at my local hospital, though not sure if that's a national thing or just locally decided.

The Queen that I prefer consists of Roger Taylor and Brian May.

(15 Sep 2022, 10:01 am)Adrian wrote I don't intend to turn the thread into a discussion on poverty, but in reply to this; it's not stretching it at all, when you have almost 15 million people living in poverty in the UK. You might find it easy to say what you believe people should be doing differently, but the reality of it is much different - which you'll find out from talking to people and trying to understand.

Anyone who isn't living under a rock would have seen how energy bills have risen this year, which often leaves those living in poverty (and using pre-payment meters) the choice between energy or food. They struggle to forecast whether they need energy credit, and the outcome of that factors what budget they'll have for food and other essentials.

Of course, there's sometimes an educational disadvantage, which can impact decision making. But isn't as simple as telling people they should budget better, plan meals or do a weekly shop, when they're living on so little money.

Again also sorry to continue this one but I feel I have to come back on this.

I’m not dismissing poverty far from it, I’m also not dismissing the cost of living crisis with food bills rising and energy bills even more so. All I’m saying is that I can’t see shutting Tesco for one day having any sort of impact. And certainly not the level it seemed you tried to imply. 

I am lucky that I’m not someone who is worrying that my electric will go off or worrying where the next meal is coming from, so I appreciate I speak from a place of ‘somewhat’ privilege, but I’m also someone has seen the other side. I’m from a working class area where these struggles are real. I’m not sitting in an ivory tower like you seem to accuse me of. All I am saying is that I’m not sure are struggling families and individuals will struggle any more due to the fact Aldi and Sainsbury's are closed for one day. Surely they can get to the shops the day before? In fact there may be some good deals on Sunday with reduced items that won’t be able to get sold on the Monday. And as I think I mentioned, I’m sure most Asda stores are actually opening at 5pm on Monday so anyone who does need essentials can go then. 

One thing I will agree on is there is education barriers to things such as financial advice and this is where sometimes things such as PHSE in schools needs to be off focus too and not just after thought after English, Maths and Science.

(14 Sep 2022, 7:20 am)Storx wrote The reason they will be shutting is because a lot of people will be watching the Queen's funeral especially pensioners who is usually all that shops on a Monday anyway. 

There's no demand to be open so why bother wasting money for the 15 people who will come in all day.

What about the home deliveries that have already been booked? The thousands of elderly, vulnerable or isolated people who now have to rebook their slots...

Tesco etc are shut the whole day, is everybody watching the funeral on repeat when its done?

Schools are closed on Monday as a "mark of respect", I'm sure that's what the Queen would have wanted - children missing out on their education and, in the case of those in poverty, their dinner too.

(15 Sep 2022, 5:12 pm)omnicity4659 wrote What about the home deliveries that have already been booked? The thousands of elderly, vulnerable or isolated people who now have to rebook their slots...

Tesco etc are shut the whole day, is everybody watching the funeral on repeat when its done?

They have to spend the rest of the day sitting in the house balling their eyes out of course!

Well I'll be showing my respect by going for a nice drive in the countryside.

Charles

(15 Sep 2022, 5:17 pm)streetdeckfan wrote They have to spend the rest of the day sitting in the house balling their eyes out of course!

I'll be out on my bike, regardless of who says it's disrespectful.

Funny how two years ago you had to stand two metres apart, wear a mask and follow "hands face space".

Now you are expected to show respect by waiting in a big queue over four miles long with no mask and no social distancing. After traveling from all over the country to get to London.

Anyone else feel perhaps our government was not exactly honest with us when it came to Covid.

Charles

(15 Sep 2022, 6:48 pm)Charles41 wrote Funny how two years ago you had to stand two metres apart, wear a mask and follow "hands face space".

Now you are expected to show respect by waiting in a big queue over four miles long with no mask and no social distancing. After traveling from all over the country to get to London.

Anyone else feel perhaps our government was not exactly honest with us when it came to Covid.

Charles

I just feel like COVID was very and still is serious however with vacinnes and what people went through people are just sick of it.

Oh and here's another thing if we are paying respect to the queen for her 'service' then why are so many GNE buses going around with 'not in service' on the display.

It's plain disrespectful if you ask me.

Charles

(15 Sep 2022, 5:12 pm)omnicity4659 wrote What about the home deliveries that have already been booked? The thousands of elderly, vulnerable or isolated people who now have to rebook their slots...

If the supermarket has an ounce of sense they'll automatically rebook it (probably for Tuesday and shuffle other people around) surely?

(15 Sep 2022, 7:24 pm)F114TML wrote If the supermarket has an ounce of sense they'll automatically rebook it (probably for Tuesday and shuffle other people around) surely?

I know people with driving tests booked they've been moved to the next available slot which I think is January

When I found out that the supermarket would be closed for the funeral I immediately went to my local Tesco and started panic buying. I now have 80 packets of loo roll and 300 tins of beans.

God save the king.

Charles

I'll likely be spending the day thinking of the money I've pissed away on train tickets that I no longer wish to use on Monday cos nothing much is open and because TOCs and booking agents aren't playing ball and are not acting in accordance to what has been set out by National Rail for the day in question making the already infuriating dealings with customer services pushing me to breaking point.

I was pretty neutral on the whole thing but the last few days of trying to get things like this resolved but considering that I may as may as well be addressing this to a brick wall with the clock ticking is proving stressful and it's looking like I'll be out of pocket to be sat inside feeling miserable all day.

(15 Sep 2022, 9:49 pm)Jimmi wrote I'll likely be spending the day thinking of the money I've pissed away on train tickets that I no longer wish to use on Monday cos nothing much is open and because TOCs and booking agents aren't playing ball and are not acting in accordance to what has been set out by National Rail for the day in question making the already infuriating dealings with customer services pushing me to breaking point.

I was pretty neutral on the whole thing but the last few days of trying to get things like this resolved but considering that I may as may as well be addressing this to a brick wall with the clock ticking is proving stressful and it's looking like I'll be out of pocket to be sat inside feeling miserable all day.

Have a trip down to London to stand in a queue to look at a box!

(15 Sep 2022, 9:49 pm)Jimmi wrote I'll likely be spending the day thinking of the money I've pissed away on train tickets that I no longer wish to use on Monday cos nothing much is open and because TOCs and booking agents aren't playing ball and are not acting in accordance to what has been set out by National Rail for the day in question making the already infuriating dealings with customer services pushing me to breaking point.

I was pretty neutral on the whole thing but the last few days of trying to get things like this resolved but considering that I may as may as well be addressing this to a brick wall with the clock ticking is proving stressful and it's looking like I'll be out of pocket to be sat inside feeling miserable all day.

If you've paid by card just initiate a charge back - that tends to get their attention. 

I was due to be at a conference on Monday - train down and plane up. LNER were excellent at refunding, taken a voucher from BA as I ended up having to book Club Europe and it'll come in handy cost wise down the line

(15 Sep 2022, 5:12 pm)omnicity4659 wrote Schools are closed on Monday as a "mark of respect", I'm sure that's what the Queen would have wanted - children missing out on their education and, in the case of those in poverty, their dinner too.

Yes all teachers are Republicans so they wont want to watch the funeral to pay respect. Let's treat them differently to council works etc who arnt at work either