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Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022

Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022

RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(27 Sep 2022, 11:38 pm)ALavery wrote CityRider on the 39A this afternoon? Didn’t catch the fleet number unfortunately. To say the least it caught me by surprise.
It did when I drove past it - twice. Also spotted an ex-Saltwell StreetLite on the 700/702 yesterday.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 8:09 am)F114TML wrote It did when I drove past it - twice. Also spotted an ex-Saltwell StreetLite on the 700/702 yesterday.
I know this has been argued 100 times already, but if everything was corp it would be so much easier and less of a deal, I guess with wrong allocations, essentially a wrong allocation wouldn’t exist.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 10:15 am)ALavery wrote I know this has been argued 100 times already, but if everything was corp it would be so much easier and less of a deal, I guess with wrong allocations, essentially a wrong allocation wouldn’t exist.
A wrong allocation would still exist. 

Streetdeck on the 34 would still be unacceptable if a single decker/solo was on the 50/X1. As they both should have streetdecks. 

But then it comes without branding what will be the actual allocations are we going to end up seieng E200 on the 51, and Streetlites on the 97. Branding policies to make sure routes should have the right allocation. Tho Riverside/Deptford and Washington tend to just do what they want anyways. 

Who allocates buses at depots? Is it like a seperate role or is a part of a bigger role?
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 10:19 am)Unber43 wrote A wrong allocation would still exist. 

Streetdeck on the 34 would still be unacceptable if a single decker/solo was on the 50/X1. As they both should have streetdecks. 

But then it comes without branding what will be the actual allocations are we going to end up seieng E200 on the 51, and Streetlites on the 97. Branding policies to make sure routes should have the right allocation. Tho Riverside/Deptford and Washington tend to just do what they want anyways. 

Who allocates buses at depots? Is it like a seperate role or is a part of a bigger role?

One 34 board is booked for a Streetdeck…
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 10:15 am)ALavery wrote I know this has been argued 100 times already, but if everything was corp it would be so much easier and less of a deal, I guess with wrong allocations, essentially a wrong allocation wouldn’t exist.
Tbh, even if everything was one livery, a decker on the 39s and a streetlite on the 700s would still be remarkable.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 10:35 am)F114TML wrote Tbh, even if everything was one livery, a decker on the 39s and a streetlite on the 700s would still be remarkable.
Leaving Park lane on the 700 (where A,B,C etc Stand is) is just a pain, especially on anything but a Solo.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 10:35 am)F114TML wrote Tbh, even if everything was one livery, a decker on the 39s and a streetlite on the 700s would still be remarkable.
Hahaha definitely!

What on earth is a peterlee purples doing at Eldon Square? 659 to be exact.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 1:46 pm)ALavery wrote Hahaha definitely!

What on earth is a peterlee purples doing at Eldon Square? 659 to be exact.
It was on loan to Washington after Sept Changes.

GNE will be incurring a few fines today for the 25/28/29 as they failed to put a Euro 6 bus on.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
Why is a 34 board due to be a StreetDeck? Scholars?

XLINES Citaro 5328 seems to have ended up on 65s according to bus times. Another day whereby the 65 was suffering excessive delays of up to 25 minutes. A family member says a friend waited for 15 minutes after it was due for a 65 before eventually giving up.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 6:35 pm)Drifter60 wrote Why is a 34 board due to be a StreetDeck? Scholars?

XLINES Citaro 5328 seems to have ended up on 65s according to bus times. Another day whereby the 65 was suffering excessive delays of up to 25 minutes. A family member says a friend waited for 15 minutes after it was due for a 65 before eventually giving up.
The thing with the 65, is they are so tightly timed and have a reduced capacity they're always late, every day 15-30 minutes late. Today the 16:25 to Seaham was running 20 minutes late like they do every day, and there was either 729/730 waiting for that bus to arrive, so why didn't the driver just bring another bus and just run the route on time? Is it so hard to give the 65 changeover drivers an actual bus to run a service on time? It's just common sense. 

Like Look, 65's constantly run with a delay, you would think whoever in charge at Depford would think, oh let's send them with another bus as more than likely the 65 is going to be late, we can improve customer satisfaction and experience by actually running a 65 on time for once. It's not rocket science, all you need is a few brain cells.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 7:41 pm)nova347 wrote The thing with the 65, is they are so tightly timed and have a reduced capacity they're always late, every day 15-30 minutes late. Today the 16:25 to Seaham was running 20 minutes late like they do every day, and there was either 729/730 waiting for that bus to arrive, so why didn't the driver just bring another bus and just run the route on time? Is it so hard to give the 65 changeover drivers an actual bus to run a service on time? It's just common sense. 

Like Look, 65's constantly run with a delay, you would think whoever in charge at Depford would think, oh let's send them with another bus as more than likely the 65 is going to be late, we can improve customer satisfaction and experience by actually running a 65 on time for once. It's not rocket science, all you need is a few brain cells.

All sound logical to me. I guess the question is who’s monitoring that sort of stuff ie. Late running etc. Is there a team at Bensham or wherever head office is based or is it one guy at each depot who’s also got other tasks and is looking after a large patch? Speaking of which, operational areas for each depot have only got bigger with CLS closure which can’t help. I’m guessing on some occasions the drivers turn up at Seaham (and other remote changeover locations) not knowing that the incoming service is severely delayed.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm)Unber43 wrote It was on loan to Washington after Sept Changes.

GNE will be incurring a few fines today for the 25/28/29 as they failed to put a Euro 6 bus on.
Why?  The Clean air zone is not in place yet in Newcastle.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 6:25 am)R838PRG wrote Why?  The Clean air zone is not in place yet in Newcastle.
i believe in the contract it states a Euro 6 allocation.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 7:41 pm)nova347 wrote The thing with the 65, is they are so tightly timed and have a reduced capacity they're always late, every day 15-30 minutes late. Today the 16:25 to Seaham was running 20 minutes late like they do every day, and there was either 729/730 waiting for that bus to arrive, so why didn't the driver just bring another bus and just run the route on time? Is it so hard to give the 65 changeover drivers an actual bus to run a service on time? It's just common sense. 

Like Look, 65's constantly run with a delay, you would think whoever in charge at Depford would think, oh let's send them with another bus as more than likely the 65 is going to be late, we can improve customer satisfaction and experience by actually running a 65 on time for once. It's not rocket science, all you need is a few brain cells.

Where do the 65 do driver changes?
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RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
How come allocations are still all over?

Has there been a Forward Plan released by the new MD on GNEs direction yet, maybe something to suggest most route brands will be dropped to smarten up the fleet and improve flexibility perhaps…..?
One can hope.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 8:54 am)ne14ne1 wrote How come allocations are still all over?

Has there been a Forward Plan released by the new MD on GNEs direction yet, maybe something to suggest most route brands will be dropped to smarten up the fleet and improve flexibility perhaps…..?
One can hope.
or maybe it's just incompetence.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(28 Sep 2022, 4:00 pm)Unber43 wrote It was on loan to Washington after Sept Changes.

GNE will be incurring a few fines today for the 25/28/29 as they failed to put a Euro 6 bus on.
Who how is this actually checked. Is there a bloke with a clip board at elson square or Chester left street writing the regs down or even taking photos as evidence?
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 9:31 am)Rob44 wrote Who how is this actually checked. Is there a bloke with a clip board at elson square or Chester left street writing the regs down or even taking photos as evidence?
I assume GNE have to report the vehicles which were on it. But I do wonder about when services are delayed aswell especially on the 25 what happens, do GNE get fined?
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 9:31 am)Rob44 wrote Who how is this actually checked. Is there a bloke with a clip board at elson square or Chester left street writing the regs down or even taking photos as evidence?

I'd hope the creative dudes who worked for Southern, haven't shared any knowledge or top tips within the bus divisions!

Heads should roll if dishonest reporting was defrauding the tax payer.
'Illegitimis non carborundum'
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
Think it’s about time they painted the blonde bus into either graphite silver fox or corp. It never operates on the 38 anyway
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 7:06 pm)Acky81 wrote Think it’s about time they painted the blonde bus into either graphite silver fox or corp. It never operates on the 38 anyway

That Blonde bus does need repainting - as there isn’t a Blonde route. Those 38s to the docks were always part of the Peterlee Purples running boards, despite how ridiculous that was. That blonde bus was in Peterlee the other day, meanwhile there was a Peterlee Purples bus in North Tyneside and Chester-le-Street! Just all a bit of a mess really. I’ve always thought branding could work and was a nice touch. We’ve seen some pretty good (and some bad!) examples of it, but the way allocations are now, its a mess of colours with zero coordination. Problem is how do you go about rebranding everything, that’s a lot of paint, a lot of man hours etc.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 10:12 pm)Drifter60 wrote Problem is how do you go about rebranding everything, that’s a lot of paint, a lot of man hours etc.

That’s GNE’s specialty
Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(29 Sep 2022, 10:12 pm)Drifter60 wrote That Blonde bus does need repainting - as there isn’t a Blonde route. Those 38s to the docks were always part of the Peterlee Purples running boards, despite how ridiculous that was. That blonde bus was in Peterlee the other day, meanwhile there was a Peterlee Purples bus in North Tyneside and Chester-le-Street! Just all a bit of a mess really. I’ve always thought branding could work and was a nice touch. We’ve seen some pretty good (and some bad!) examples of it, but the way allocations are now, its a mess of colours with zero coordination. Problem is how do you go about rebranding everything, that’s a lot of paint, a lot of man hours etc.


Some of the Peterlee purples solos are surplus requirements now, hence some been shifted to Tyneside to withdraw the second hand solos and older solos, and also to Washington, the mothballed citarios and graphite solos were required due to unable to require spare parts, maintenance etc…. For the normal fleet

GNE shouldn’t of painted every single bus into pointless brands in the first place, it just diluted what GNE stood for , and there should of known it wouldn’t of worked from day one, most probably the the person who does the depot allocation must of got his highs from the same place where the person who thought of these brands up in the first place


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RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
According to bus times their are 2 Solos on the X1, meanwhile the 34/25 have streetdecks. I know the 34 apparently need a StreetDeck but do they really, can they not have a voyager.
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(30 Sep 2022, 6:01 am)cbma06 wrote Some of the Peterlee purples solos are surplus requirements now, hence some been shifted to Tyneside to withdraw the second hand solos and older solos, and also to Washington, the mothballed citarios and graphite solos were required due to unable to require spare parts, maintenance etc…. For the normal fleet

GNE shouldn’t of painted every single bus into pointless brands in the first place, it just diluted what GNE stood for , and there should of known it wouldn’t of worked from day one, most probably the  the person who does the depot allocation must of got his highs from the same place where the person who thought of these brands up in the first place


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It was just the 62 withdrawn though, so two buses less required I think. On the same day they withdrawn the Blonde 38 route (or the section where the Blonde bus was allocated anyways) so unless there was immediate plans to repaint the Blonde/Purples to me it would have made more sense to keep as many Peterlee Purples locally at Deptford and send the blonde one elsewhere (which now has zero relevance anywhere)?
RE: Go North East: Rare & Odd Workings 2022
(30 Sep 2022, 1:06 pm)Drifter60 wrote It was just the 62 withdrawn though, so two buses less required I think. On the same day they withdrawn the Blonde 38 route (or the section where the Blonde bus was allocated anyways) so unless there was immediate plans to repaint the Blonde/Purples to me it would have made more sense to keep as many Peterlee Purples locally at Deptford and send the blonde one elsewhere (which now has zero relevance anywhere)?

I'm not sure the Peterlee Purples bus is permanent or just temporary with the reduced timetable. It seems to be a bit odd to send 1 bus in the middle of the batch. I think some people might be getting confused with 680 - 682 and the Little Pinks from Washington.

It's the same with 659 at Washington which makes even less sense when they sent their own to Percy Main. #

It depends what goes on the 74 / 684 ultimately though as I could imagine some the Solo's from Hexham going elsewhere as something has to come for the Euro 6 from somewhere.