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01 Sep 2022, 8:02 am #221
8 of the new voltras are on newcastle quayside now

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(01 Sep 2022, 8:02 am)toward6931 8 of the new voltras are on newcastle quayside now
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01 Sep 2022, 8:02 am #221

8 of the new voltras are on newcastle quayside now


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(01 Sep 2022, 8:02 am)toward6931 8 of the new voltras are on newcastle quayside now

Unber43



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03 Sep 2022, 5:47 pm #222
GNE Future Orders

21 - Streetdeck Electric Buses (Riverside)
ex Angels refurbed for the 56 & X20 & USB's Replaced 6315-6333

8/78 MCV Single Deckers PVR 14 (Consett Operated)
ex Country Ranger Replace older Versa's

60 - E200 EV ex Drifters moved onto 35 (Deptford)

4 - eCitaros PVR 9 (Deptford)
ex Connections 4 moved onto 2/2A, 2/2A split between Sunderland & washington (would get Citaros), and Sunderland & Silksworth (8339-44)

20 - Volvo BZL PVR 12 every 12 mins (Deptford)
ex Prince Bishops Refurbed replaces 61 and older vehicles
Unber43
03 Sep 2022, 5:47 pm #222

GNE Future Orders

21 - Streetdeck Electric Buses (Riverside)
ex Angels refurbed for the 56 & X20 & USB's Replaced 6315-6333

8/78 MCV Single Deckers PVR 14 (Consett Operated)
ex Country Ranger Replace older Versa's

60 - E200 EV ex Drifters moved onto 35 (Deptford)

4 - eCitaros PVR 9 (Deptford)
ex Connections 4 moved onto 2/2A, 2/2A split between Sunderland & washington (would get Citaros), and Sunderland & Silksworth (8339-44)

20 - Volvo BZL PVR 12 every 12 mins (Deptford)
ex Prince Bishops Refurbed replaces 61 and older vehicles

ALavery



85
03 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm #223
(03 Sep 2022, 5:47 pm)Unber43 GNE Future Orders

21 - Streetdeck Electric Buses (Riverside)
ex Angels refurbed for the 56 & X20 & USB's Replaced 6315-6333

8/78 MCV Single Deckers PVR 14 (Consett Operated)
ex Country Ranger Replace older Versa's

60 - E200 EV ex Drifters moved onto 35 (Deptford)

4 - eCitaros PVR 9 (Deptford)
ex Connections 4 moved onto 2/2A, 2/2A split between Sunderland & washington (would get Citaros), and Sunderland & Silksworth (8339-44)

20 - Volvo BZL PVR 12 every 12 mins (Deptford)
ex Prince Bishops Refurbed replaces 61 and older vehicles
The  X20 100% does not need deckers. I doubt deptford would get brand new electric E200s considering there’s no requirement to keep up the air quality there the most likely thing would be that those are ordered for the 97/96 and the green arrow 200s go on to the 60.
ALavery
03 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm #223

(03 Sep 2022, 5:47 pm)Unber43 GNE Future Orders

21 - Streetdeck Electric Buses (Riverside)
ex Angels refurbed for the 56 & X20 & USB's Replaced 6315-6333

8/78 MCV Single Deckers PVR 14 (Consett Operated)
ex Country Ranger Replace older Versa's

60 - E200 EV ex Drifters moved onto 35 (Deptford)

4 - eCitaros PVR 9 (Deptford)
ex Connections 4 moved onto 2/2A, 2/2A split between Sunderland & washington (would get Citaros), and Sunderland & Silksworth (8339-44)

20 - Volvo BZL PVR 12 every 12 mins (Deptford)
ex Prince Bishops Refurbed replaces 61 and older vehicles
The  X20 100% does not need deckers. I doubt deptford would get brand new electric E200s considering there’s no requirement to keep up the air quality there the most likely thing would be that those are ordered for the 97/96 and the green arrow 200s go on to the 60.

Unber43



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03 Sep 2022, 8:48 pm #224
(03 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm)ALavery The  X20 100% does not need deckers. I doubt deptford would get brand new electric E200s considering there’s no requirement to keep up the air quality there the most likely thing would be that those are ordered for the 97/96 and the green arrow 200s go on to the 60.
Personally I think even if there is no air requirements that shouldn't stop them investing in other areas of the fleet. 

And it would be nice for Deptford to not get the scraps of other depots now the euro 6 requirements has been fulfilled. I must say I saw several 20's absolutely rammed Friday afternoon heading towards Durham
Unber43
03 Sep 2022, 8:48 pm #224

(03 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm)ALavery The  X20 100% does not need deckers. I doubt deptford would get brand new electric E200s considering there’s no requirement to keep up the air quality there the most likely thing would be that those are ordered for the 97/96 and the green arrow 200s go on to the 60.
Personally I think even if there is no air requirements that shouldn't stop them investing in other areas of the fleet. 

And it would be nice for Deptford to not get the scraps of other depots now the euro 6 requirements has been fulfilled. I must say I saw several 20's absolutely rammed Friday afternoon heading towards Durham

Storx



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03 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm #225
(03 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm)ALavery The  X20 100% does not need deckers. I doubt deptford would get brand new electric E200s considering there’s no requirement to keep up the air quality there the most likely thing would be that those are ordered for the 97/96 and the green arrow 200s go on to the 60.

Personally I don't think there will be any orders for awhile unless there's some more money from the government somewhere bar something maybe for Hexham and the E6 zone.

There's nothing that really needs replacing and I'm not sure they'll want to be making investments now when they don't need to.
Storx
03 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm #225

(03 Sep 2022, 8:44 pm)ALavery The  X20 100% does not need deckers. I doubt deptford would get brand new electric E200s considering there’s no requirement to keep up the air quality there the most likely thing would be that those are ordered for the 97/96 and the green arrow 200s go on to the 60.

Personally I don't think there will be any orders for awhile unless there's some more money from the government somewhere bar something maybe for Hexham and the E6 zone.

There's nothing that really needs replacing and I'm not sure they'll want to be making investments now when they don't need to.

Unber43



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03 Sep 2022, 9:17 pm #226
(03 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm)Storx Personally I don't think there will be any orders for awhile unless there's some more money from the government somewhere bar something maybe for Hexham and the E6 zone.

There's nothing that really needs replacing and I'm not sure they'll want to be making investments now when they don't need to.
I think GNE will place orders in 2023 for 2024.
Unber43
03 Sep 2022, 9:17 pm #226

(03 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm)Storx Personally I don't think there will be any orders for awhile unless there's some more money from the government somewhere bar something maybe for Hexham and the E6 zone.

There's nothing that really needs replacing and I'm not sure they'll want to be making investments now when they don't need to.
I think GNE will place orders in 2023 for 2024.

ALavery



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03 Sep 2022, 9:23 pm #227
(03 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm)HStorx Personally I don't think there will be any orders for awhile unless there's some more money from the government somewhere bar something maybe for Hexham and the E6 zone.

There's nothing that really needs replacing and I'm not sure they'll want to be making investments now when they don't need to.

Oh definitely not, it would be utterly daft especially considering services are being chopped due to a lack of funding, would be all buses but no services to run them on. they’ve just had about 20+ deckers come in school contract or not.
ALavery
03 Sep 2022, 9:23 pm #227

(03 Sep 2022, 9:05 pm)HStorx Personally I don't think there will be any orders for awhile unless there's some more money from the government somewhere bar something maybe for Hexham and the E6 zone.

There's nothing that really needs replacing and I'm not sure they'll want to be making investments now when they don't need to.

Oh definitely not, it would be utterly daft especially considering services are being chopped due to a lack of funding, would be all buses but no services to run them on. they’ve just had about 20+ deckers come in school contract or not.

Unber43



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03 Sep 2022, 9:26 pm #228
(03 Sep 2022, 9:23 pm)ALavery Oh definitely not, it would be utterly daft especially considering services are being chopped due to a lack of funding, would be all buses but no services to run them on. they’ve just had about 20+ deckers come in school contract or not.
I think its more like 40-60
Unber43
03 Sep 2022, 9:26 pm #228

(03 Sep 2022, 9:23 pm)ALavery Oh definitely not, it would be utterly daft especially considering services are being chopped due to a lack of funding, would be all buses but no services to run them on. they’ve just had about 20+ deckers come in school contract or not.
I think its more like 40-60

ALavery



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03 Sep 2022, 9:29 pm #229
(03 Sep 2022, 8:48 pm)Unber43 Personally I think even if there is no air requirements that shouldn't stop them investing in other areas of the fleet. 

And it would be nice for Deptford to not get the scraps of other depots now the euro 6 requirements has been fulfilled. I must say I saw several 20's absolutely rammed Friday afternoon heading towards Durham

Personally I couldn’t care less about getting scraps especially not if they had comfy seats, Wireless/USB charging and smart insides like riversides enviros. You never know they might just order some more up to date streetlites Wink and if there’s somewhere that specifically needs cleaner buses it makes sense to invest there and keep that a high priority and disperse older, but still clean buses elsewhere.about the 20 that definitely does get an issue sometimes, best I could see on there would be G2s or Enviro400s for fleet standardisation.

(03 Sep 2022, 9:26 pm)Unber43 I think its more like 40-60

I thought so, didn’t want to over estimate haha
Edited 03 Sep 2022, 9:30 pm by ALavery.
ALavery
03 Sep 2022, 9:29 pm #229

(03 Sep 2022, 8:48 pm)Unber43 Personally I think even if there is no air requirements that shouldn't stop them investing in other areas of the fleet. 

And it would be nice for Deptford to not get the scraps of other depots now the euro 6 requirements has been fulfilled. I must say I saw several 20's absolutely rammed Friday afternoon heading towards Durham

Personally I couldn’t care less about getting scraps especially not if they had comfy seats, Wireless/USB charging and smart insides like riversides enviros. You never know they might just order some more up to date streetlites Wink and if there’s somewhere that specifically needs cleaner buses it makes sense to invest there and keep that a high priority and disperse older, but still clean buses elsewhere.about the 20 that definitely does get an issue sometimes, best I could see on there would be G2s or Enviro400s for fleet standardisation.

(03 Sep 2022, 9:26 pm)Unber43 I think its more like 40-60

I thought so, didn’t want to over estimate haha

Unber43



3,566
29 Sep 2022, 9:25 am #230
New Orders - 
9x E400MMC - X21
17x StreetDeck's - 10/10A/10B
8x E200 MMC EV - 60
9x E200 MMC EV | MCV Evora - 4
19x Wright StreetDeck Electroliner - 21

Possibly New Orders - 
16x MCV Evora - 8/78
10x MCV Evora Single/Decker - 20
4x (something) 65

Old Stock - 
MCV Evora Deckers for 16/16A/X5


Fleet Movements - 
X21 B5's - 56/309/310/311
21 StreetDecks - 56/309/310/311
10/10A/10B G2's - Spare Role Replacing older buses. 
60 Streetlites - X20
4 Citaros - 2/2A 
8/78 Streetlite - Replace Versa's 
20 Streetlites - 35
65 Streetlites - 61
16/16A/X5 Hybrids - Withdrawn/Replace older buses
Unber43
29 Sep 2022, 9:25 am #230

New Orders - 
9x E400MMC - X21
17x StreetDeck's - 10/10A/10B
8x E200 MMC EV - 60
9x E200 MMC EV | MCV Evora - 4
19x Wright StreetDeck Electroliner - 21

Possibly New Orders - 
16x MCV Evora - 8/78
10x MCV Evora Single/Decker - 20
4x (something) 65

Old Stock - 
MCV Evora Deckers for 16/16A/X5


Fleet Movements - 
X21 B5's - 56/309/310/311
21 StreetDecks - 56/309/310/311
10/10A/10B G2's - Spare Role Replacing older buses. 
60 Streetlites - X20
4 Citaros - 2/2A 
8/78 Streetlite - Replace Versa's 
20 Streetlites - 35
65 Streetlites - 61
16/16A/X5 Hybrids - Withdrawn/Replace older buses

29 Sep 2022, 9:47 am #231
(29 Sep 2022, 9:25 am)Unber43 New Orders - 
9x E400MMC - X21
17x StreetDeck's - 10/10A/10B
8x E200 MMC EV - 60
9x E200 MMC EV | MCV Evora - 4
19x Wright StreetDeck Electroliner - 21

Possibly New Orders - 
16x MCV Evora - 8/78
10x MCV Evora Single/Decker - 20
4x (something) 65

Old Stock - 
MCV Evora Deckers for 16/16A/X5


Fleet Movements - 
X21 B5's - 56/309/310/311
21 StreetDecks - 56/309/310/311
10/10A/10B G2's - Spare Role Replacing older buses. 
60 Streetlites - X20
4 Citaros - 2/2A 
8/78 Streetlite - Replace Versa's 
20 Streetlites - 35
65 Streetlites - 61
16/16A/X5 Hybrids - Withdrawn/Replace older buses
Would be nice .......
Especially new vehicles for the 60 ..yes please
Retro Nero
29 Sep 2022, 9:47 am #231

(29 Sep 2022, 9:25 am)Unber43 New Orders - 
9x E400MMC - X21
17x StreetDeck's - 10/10A/10B
8x E200 MMC EV - 60
9x E200 MMC EV | MCV Evora - 4
19x Wright StreetDeck Electroliner - 21

Possibly New Orders - 
16x MCV Evora - 8/78
10x MCV Evora Single/Decker - 20
4x (something) 65

Old Stock - 
MCV Evora Deckers for 16/16A/X5


Fleet Movements - 
X21 B5's - 56/309/310/311
21 StreetDecks - 56/309/310/311
10/10A/10B G2's - Spare Role Replacing older buses. 
60 Streetlites - X20
4 Citaros - 2/2A 
8/78 Streetlite - Replace Versa's 
20 Streetlites - 35
65 Streetlites - 61
16/16A/X5 Hybrids - Withdrawn/Replace older buses
Would be nice .......
Especially new vehicles for the 60 ..yes please

Unber43



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29 Sep 2022, 9:57 am #232
(29 Sep 2022, 9:47 am)Retro Nero Would be nice .......
Especially new vehicles for the 60 ..yes please
They're not desperately needed tbf if anything a refurb with USB's, however its more of a case of putting them on lesser popular routes. Same with the 78/8/20 really.
Unber43
29 Sep 2022, 9:57 am #232

(29 Sep 2022, 9:47 am)Retro Nero Would be nice .......
Especially new vehicles for the 60 ..yes please
They're not desperately needed tbf if anything a refurb with USB's, however its more of a case of putting them on lesser popular routes. Same with the 78/8/20 really.

Storx



4,621
29 Sep 2022, 10:45 am #233
Can't see any investment for a couple of years personally. The oldest bus in the fleet is a 10 plate (in frontline service) so it's just a waste of money.

No way are they going to withdraw the B9's yet. They're nowhere near finished or even ready for school runs.

The money would be better spend on proper refurbs (not a retrim) and get shot of the horrid blue.
Storx
29 Sep 2022, 10:45 am #233

Can't see any investment for a couple of years personally. The oldest bus in the fleet is a 10 plate (in frontline service) so it's just a waste of money.

No way are they going to withdraw the B9's yet. They're nowhere near finished or even ready for school runs.

The money would be better spend on proper refurbs (not a retrim) and get shot of the horrid blue.

29 Sep 2022, 10:52 am #234
The Drifter streetlights have been on the 60s the longest since 2013 with previous ( Versa) only being 5 years.
Retro Nero
29 Sep 2022, 10:52 am #234

The Drifter streetlights have been on the 60s the longest since 2013 with previous ( Versa) only being 5 years.

Unber43



3,566
29 Sep 2022, 10:53 am #235
(29 Sep 2022, 10:45 am)Storx Can't see any investment for a couple of years personally. The oldest bus in the fleet is a 10 plate (in frontline service) so it's just a waste of money.

No way are they going to withdraw the B9's yet. They're nowhere near finished or even ready for school runs.

The money would be better spend on proper refurbs (not a retrim) and get shot of the horrid blue.
Well tbf any order GNE make won't probably come till 2024, making the older oldest buses 12-14 years old.

And for the B9's they probably need about 10 spares as they get older for the rest of the fleet as OmniDekkas are still in regular use

(29 Sep 2022, 10:52 am)Retro Nero The Drifter streetlights have been on the 60s the longest since 2013 with previous ( Versa) only being 5 years.
It was 2-3 years before the Versa's aswell.
Edited 29 Sep 2022, 10:56 am by Unber43.
Unber43
29 Sep 2022, 10:53 am #235

(29 Sep 2022, 10:45 am)Storx Can't see any investment for a couple of years personally. The oldest bus in the fleet is a 10 plate (in frontline service) so it's just a waste of money.

No way are they going to withdraw the B9's yet. They're nowhere near finished or even ready for school runs.

The money would be better spend on proper refurbs (not a retrim) and get shot of the horrid blue.
Well tbf any order GNE make won't probably come till 2024, making the older oldest buses 12-14 years old.

And for the B9's they probably need about 10 spares as they get older for the rest of the fleet as OmniDekkas are still in regular use

(29 Sep 2022, 10:52 am)Retro Nero The Drifter streetlights have been on the 60s the longest since 2013 with previous ( Versa) only being 5 years.
It was 2-3 years before the Versa's aswell.

Storx



4,621
29 Sep 2022, 11:55 am #236
(29 Sep 2022, 10:53 am)Unber43 Well tbf any order GNE make won't probably come till 2024, making the older oldest buses 12-14 years old.

And for the B9's they probably need about 10 spares as they get older for the rest of the fleet as OmniDekkas are still in regular use

It was 2-3 years before the Versa's aswell.

There's still all the ex London Deckers to come in though which should see off the remainder of the Omnidekka's bar maybe the 57 plates and I believe the Enviro's are staying replacing the 06 Plate B7's. 

Even 14 years old isn't really the age for buses to be replaced it's usually 15 years. Any orders will be a small batch, there won't be 60+ buses imo. There's literally 8 70 Plate Streetdecks and 8 or so 63 Plate Versa's in a spare role pretty much atm without a route.
Storx
29 Sep 2022, 11:55 am #236

(29 Sep 2022, 10:53 am)Unber43 Well tbf any order GNE make won't probably come till 2024, making the older oldest buses 12-14 years old.

And for the B9's they probably need about 10 spares as they get older for the rest of the fleet as OmniDekkas are still in regular use

It was 2-3 years before the Versa's aswell.

There's still all the ex London Deckers to come in though which should see off the remainder of the Omnidekka's bar maybe the 57 plates and I believe the Enviro's are staying replacing the 06 Plate B7's. 

Even 14 years old isn't really the age for buses to be replaced it's usually 15 years. Any orders will be a small batch, there won't be 60+ buses imo. There's literally 8 70 Plate Streetdecks and 8 or so 63 Plate Versa's in a spare role pretty much atm without a route.

29 Sep 2022, 11:55 am #237
(29 Sep 2022, 10:53 am)Unber43 Well tbf any order GNE make won't probably come till 2024, making the older oldest buses 12-14 years old.

And for the B9's they probably need about 10 spares as they get older for the rest of the fleet as OmniDekkas are still in regular use

It was 2-3 years before the Versa's aswell.
Yes , the ex London (sand coloured Drifter mpd)
Retro Nero
29 Sep 2022, 11:55 am #237

(29 Sep 2022, 10:53 am)Unber43 Well tbf any order GNE make won't probably come till 2024, making the older oldest buses 12-14 years old.

And for the B9's they probably need about 10 spares as they get older for the rest of the fleet as OmniDekkas are still in regular use

It was 2-3 years before the Versa's aswell.
Yes , the ex London (sand coloured Drifter mpd)

Malarkey



6,064
29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm #238
I'd say investment in the coming years should be that should be marked as a priority are listed below:

x12 Mercedes-Benz eCitaro's - Connections 4 - Mercs Withdrawn.
x17 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Cobalt & Coast 309/310/311 - B9TL's replace older Ex Eyms/Go North West & Lothian B9TL's which would be Withdrawn.
x16 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Angel 21 - MH Streetdecks transfer to Hownsgill for Durham Diamond 16/16A/Red Kite Ranger 47.
x16 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Tyne Valley Ten - B9TL's replace older Ex Eyms/Go North West & Lothian B9TL's which would be Withdrawn.
x12 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Prince Bishops 20 - Streetlites replace Midi Versas which would be Withdrawn.
x13 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - CityRider 56 - B9TL's replace older Ex Eyms/Go North West & Lothian B9TL's which would be Withdrawn.
x14 Wright Hydroliner Single Deck - Drifter 60/61 - Streetlites & Mercs Withdrawn.

Once these are completed i'd then go towards New Buses for the X-Lines Network with a focus on upgrading Mini/Midibus Services across the region, the then former X-Lines E400MMC's/B5TL's and MH Streetdecks would provide upgrades to the likes of the Crusader 27, East Gateshead Rider 58 and East Gateshead Loop 93/94 along with replacing some on the Ex London B9TL's.
Malarkey
29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm #238

I'd say investment in the coming years should be that should be marked as a priority are listed below:

x12 Mercedes-Benz eCitaro's - Connections 4 - Mercs Withdrawn.
x17 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Cobalt & Coast 309/310/311 - B9TL's replace older Ex Eyms/Go North West & Lothian B9TL's which would be Withdrawn.
x16 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Angel 21 - MH Streetdecks transfer to Hownsgill for Durham Diamond 16/16A/Red Kite Ranger 47.
x16 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Tyne Valley Ten - B9TL's replace older Ex Eyms/Go North West & Lothian B9TL's which would be Withdrawn.
x12 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - Prince Bishops 20 - Streetlites replace Midi Versas which would be Withdrawn.
x13 Wright Streetdeck FCEV's - CityRider 56 - B9TL's replace older Ex Eyms/Go North West & Lothian B9TL's which would be Withdrawn.
x14 Wright Hydroliner Single Deck - Drifter 60/61 - Streetlites & Mercs Withdrawn.

Once these are completed i'd then go towards New Buses for the X-Lines Network with a focus on upgrading Mini/Midibus Services across the region, the then former X-Lines E400MMC's/B5TL's and MH Streetdecks would provide upgrades to the likes of the Crusader 27, East Gateshead Rider 58 and East Gateshead Loop 93/94 along with replacing some on the Ex London B9TL's.

29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm #239
I can't see anything changing with the X21 any time soon, the B5s are seemingly performing very well on it, as long as they're actually being allocated.
The most I can see with the X21 is a StreetDeck or two getting painted into Xlines blue, but even then I think they'd just paint it into Xlines charcoal so it can be used on any route
streetdeckfan
29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm #239

I can't see anything changing with the X21 any time soon, the B5s are seemingly performing very well on it, as long as they're actually being allocated.
The most I can see with the X21 is a StreetDeck or two getting painted into Xlines blue, but even then I think they'd just paint it into Xlines charcoal so it can be used on any route

cbma06



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29 Sep 2022, 5:24 pm #240
(29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm)streetdeckfan I can't see anything changing with the X21 any time soon, the B5s are seemingly performing very well on it, as long as they're actually being allocated.
The most I can see with the X21 is a StreetDeck or two getting painted into Xlines blue, but even then I think they'd just paint it into Xlines charcoal so it can be used on any route


If the Xlines brand to be kept on, then have them in the same front half colour, but the backend colour should all be the same, ie corporate colours design back end, the rest of the fleet should go corporate colours apart from all over paid advertisements, GNE need to go back to basics, individual branded services and route branding does not work when there are allocated to run other services and cause confusion to customers/passengers and not enthusiasts, and get rid of the x20 for good, it’s not needed , put deckers on the 20/20a for capacity issues


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cbma06
29 Sep 2022, 5:24 pm #240

(29 Sep 2022, 5:05 pm)streetdeckfan I can't see anything changing with the X21 any time soon, the B5s are seemingly performing very well on it, as long as they're actually being allocated.
The most I can see with the X21 is a StreetDeck or two getting painted into Xlines blue, but even then I think they'd just paint it into Xlines charcoal so it can be used on any route


If the Xlines brand to be kept on, then have them in the same front half colour, but the backend colour should all be the same, ie corporate colours design back end, the rest of the fleet should go corporate colours apart from all over paid advertisements, GNE need to go back to basics, individual branded services and route branding does not work when there are allocated to run other services and cause confusion to customers/passengers and not enthusiasts, and get rid of the x20 for good, it’s not needed , put deckers on the 20/20a for capacity issues


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