(29 Jan 2014, 2:39 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Just while we are on Topic of the 29, would it be worth swapping the 3 Solars with 3 Merits from The Riverside Depot to then have the 29 operated by pretty much the same Vehicle Type.

No - that size of vehicle is required for scholars.

(29 Jan 2014, 8:10 am)Dan wrote To confirm, 5347 will be out in service on X66s today. It is currently at Newcastle on the 11A.

Managed to get a shot of this in service, just before it started raining.

(29 Jan 2014, 2:43 pm)Dan wrote No - that size of vehicle is required for scholars.

I see, well rules my little thought out then

(29 Jan 2014, 8:15 am)Tom wrote Anyone know where 5250/53/54/73 will be going? I doubt they will be going to Stanley for the X30/X31 because that requires four vehicles. Any suggestions anyone?

I'm thinking 5247/48/49/50 with 5253/54 and 5273/74 will go to Crook for the X21, Then 5331/33/34 and 35 will go to Peterlee for the X7, 5336 will go to Riverside for Blaydon Racers. 5337/38 could go to Washington/Deptford as allocated spares for the 4/Silver Arrows.

This would then lead to the Presidents currently on the X21 replacing various Olympians in the fleet, and 4906/07/08/09 going to Percy Main for the 9. As for the X30/X31/X70/X71, Put that down for Investment of New Vehicles later This Year.

(29 Jan 2014, 3:46 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote I'm thinking 5247/48/49/50 with 5253/54 and 5273/74 will go to Crook for the X21, Then 5331/33/34 and 35 will go to Peterlee for the X7, 5336 will go to Riverside for Blaydon Racers. 5337/38 could go to Washington/Deptford as allocated spares for the 4/Silver Arrows.

This would then lead to the Presidents currently on the X21 replacing various Olympians in the fleet, and 4906/07/08/09 going to Percy Main for the 9. As for the X30/X31/X70/X71, Put that down for Investment of New Vehicles later This Year.

The whole idea behind Crook not receiving the former Cobalt Clipper Citaros is that single deckers would leave people behind - the service requires double decker vehicles.

(29 Jan 2014, 3:46 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote I'm thinking 5247/48/49/50 with 5253/54 and 5273/74 will go to Crook for the X21, Then 5331/33/34 and 35 will go to Peterlee for the X7, 5336 will go to Riverside for Blaydon Racers. 5337/38 could go to Washington/Deptford as allocated spares for the 4/Silver Arrows.

This would then lead to the Presidents currently on the X21 replacing various Olympians in the fleet, and 4906/07/08/09 going to Percy Main for the 9. As for the X30/X31/X70/X71, Put that down for Investment of New Vehicles later This Year.

Nice idea!

But I agree with Dan about the capacity of the X21! Maybe the Omncities will go to Peterlee for the X7? And then 5331/32/33/34/35/36/37 go to Riverside for the ''Toon Link'' services, which will allow 5144/45/46/47/48/49/50 to be withdrawn?

(29 Jan 2014, 4:03 pm)Tom wrote Nice idea!

But I agree with Dan about the capacity of the X21! Maybe the Omncities will go to Peterlee for the X7? And then 5331/32/33/34/35/36/37 go to Riverside for the ''Toon Link'' services, which will allow 5144/45/46/47/48/49/50 to be withdrawn?

I think I will go with what has been suggested by our GNE insiders a hundred and one times.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:05 pm)Dan wrote I think I will go with what has been suggested by our GNE insiders a hundred and one times.

What's that lol - I can't remember?

(29 Jan 2014, 4:07 pm)Tom wrote What's that lol - I can't remember?

1x Blaydon Racer
4x Wear Tees Xpress
2x Unknown (but we've assumed Laser or 'red spare' - the latter option being more realistic given it would probably be the two 06-reg ones).

(29 Jan 2014, 4:08 pm)Dan wrote 1x Blaydon Racer
4x Wear Tees Xpress
2x Unknown (but we've assumed Laser or 'red spare' - the latter option being more realistic given it would probably be the two 06-reg ones).

But then what will happen with the red omnicities?

(29 Jan 2014, 4:12 pm)Tom wrote But then what will happen with the red omnicities?

Possibly X30/X31/X70/X71? If not then they might displace a few Renowns.

(29 Jan 2014, 3:49 pm)Dan wrote The whole idea behind Crook not receiving the former Cobalt Clipper Citaros is that single deckers would leave people behind - the service requires double decker vehicles.

News to me, As from what I recall from before Christmas it was Unconfirmed and I haven't seen or Read anything in regards to the X7 or X21 since as to whether they'd get the Citaros off the Cobalt Clipper, To be honest though in the Few Times I have used the X21 it's only been Busy between Newcastle and Durham, Onwards to Bishop Auckland I would say Passenger Numbers vary through the Day. I'm sure PDiddy could tell us whether the X21 requires Double Deckers or Not. Could always put 5337/38 on the X21 also at Peak Times to cope with Passenger Demand from Durham University.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:16 pm)northtynelinks2 wrote Possibly X30/X31/X70/X71? If not then they might displace a few Renowns.

I'ts pointless sending them to Stanley for the X30/X31/X70/X71 when it doesn't make up the required PVR.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:12 pm)Tom wrote But then what will happen with the red omnicities?

We've said for months that they're heading to Stanley for the West Durham Swift network - whether this is the X30/X31 or X70/X71, nobody knows. While most people (including myself) have suggested the former option, the latter certainly seems more realistic given that the PVR would match the vehicles transferring... But who knows?

(29 Jan 2014, 4:16 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote News to me, As from what I recall from before Christmas it was Unconfirmed and I haven't seen or Read anything in regards to the X7 or X21 since as to whether they'd get the Citaros off the Cobalt Clipper, To be honest though in the Few Times I have used the X21 it's only been Busy between Newcastle and Durham, Onwards to Bishop Auckland I would say Passenger Numbers vary through the Day. I'm sure PDiddy could tell us whether the X21 requires Double Deckers or Not. Could always put 5337/38 on the X21 also at Peak Times to cope with Passenger Demand from Durham University.

It's only been said a good ten times or so. That line must be catching up to my 'depot standardisation' line!

For the record, "Rob" hinted at the Wear Tees Xpress receiving the former "Cobalt Clipper" branded vehicles again the other day... See post here.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:20 pm)Dan wrote It's only been said a good ten times or so. That line must be catching up to my 'depot standardisation' line!

Yes I have seen it mentioned numerous times, but this information to my knowledge hasn't been confirmed by one of NEB's GNE Representatives has it, Whenever myself or the others have stated that "The Citaros are going on the X7/X21" One of the GNE Representatives have replied with "Are They", which then leads to Members like myself not knowing whether or not They Are/Are Not going onto the Suggested Services to Displace other Vehicles, It's no wonder the same Question gets asked my Members over and over again, over the course of the past few months, as we haven't been given a Fully Confirmed Answer. It's simply been If's/But's and Maybe's till Now in my opinion.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:31 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Yes I have seen it mentioned numerous times, but this information to my knowledge hasn't been confirmed by one of NEB's GNE Representatives has it, Whenever myself or the others have stated that "The Citaros are going on the X7/X21" One of the GNE Representatives have replied with "Are They", which then leads to Members like myself not knowing whether or not They Are/Are Not going onto the Suggested Services to Displace other Vehicles, It's no wonder the same Question gets asked my Members over and over again, over the course of the past few months, as we haven't been given a Fully Confirmed Answer. It's simply been If's/But's and Maybe's till Now in my opinion.

Was Rob's post three days ago not good enough?

As far as I can remember, none of our GNE representatives have ever said "Are they?" in regards to the Wear Tees Xpress receiving the former Cobalt Clipper branded vehicles - just the Pronto.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:20 pm)Dan wrote For the record, "Rob" hinted at the Wear Tees Xpress receiving the former "Cobalt Clipper" branded vehicles again the other day... See post here.

A "Hint" isn't Confirmation though is it, Rob has merely again "Suggested" that the WTX will receive Citaros once the B9's have entered Service at Percy Main, which has been Suggested Numerous Times over past Few Months. I would say that is good example of an Answer not been Fully Given, which again leads to Members wondering Are They/Are They Not going on the Suggested Service.

I do apologize if it seems as though I'm been a Pain in the Backside about this and being Argumentative, I'm not, I'm simply giving my Opinion on the Matter.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:31 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote Yes I have seen it mentioned numerous times, but this information to my knowledge hasn't been confirmed by one of NEB's GNE Representatives has it, Whenever myself or the others have stated that "The Citaros are going on the X7/X21" One of the GNE Representatives have replied with "Are They", which then leads to Members like myself not knowing whether or not They Are/Are Not going onto the Suggested Services to Displace other Vehicles, It's no wonder the same Question gets asked my Members over and over again, over the course of the past few months, as we haven't been given a Fully Confirmed Answer. It's simply been If's/But's and Maybe's till Now in my opinion.

I can see where you are coming from.

If someone misses a 'hint' or cant read between the lines, then no wonder some people are unaware.
The fact (as we repeatedly hear on the forum or see in real life), that plans can change - is also going to add to speculation, confusion or people being unaware of goings on.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:41 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote A "Hint" isn't Confirmation though is it, Rob has merely again "Suggested" that the WTX will receive Citaros once the B9's have entered Service at Percy Main, which has been Suggested Numerous Times over past Few Months. I would say that is good example of an Answer not been Fully Given, which again leads to Members wondering Are They/Are They Not going on the Suggested Service.

I do apologize if it seems as though I'm been a Pain in the Backside about this and being Argumentative, I'm not, I'm simply giving my Opinion on the Matter.

The thing is, we're lucky to even receive hints as to what the future fleet position will be... The hints aren't particularly difficult to work out, and it's pretty much explicitly said to us what will happen.

Given that such details aren't meant to make their way to the enthusiast community, they'd be putting their arses on the line just to please enthusiasts who want to know all of the details of the future fleet position? Hints are good enough, and I think we should be appreciative of what we have.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:41 pm)Adam Malarkey wrote A "Hint" isn't Confirmation though is it, Rob has merely again "Suggested" that the WTX will receive Citaros once the B9's have entered Service at Percy Main, which has been Suggested Numerous Times over past Few Months. I would say that is good example of an Answer not been Fully Given, which again leads to Members wondering Are They/Are They Not going on the Suggested Service.

I do apologize if it seems as though I'm been a Pain in the Backside about this and being Argumentative, I'm not, I'm simply giving my Opinion on the Matter.

The alternative though is that we don't even get hints. Everything else that has been hinted on has happened, e.g. Versas, Streetlites, Geminis, and Solo SRs. Nobody is under any obligation to give confirmation. To be honest, I'd assume plans of "reallocation" are always subject to change anyway. They won't need the comprehensive business case, that I'd imagine the financial spend of new vehicles would.

(29 Jan 2014, 10:36 am)andreos1 wrote I believe vehicles were sent to Sandy Lane for testing at one point, although not sure if this was a recent, long term or permanent thing as Saltmeadows has (happy to stand corrected), testing facilities.

Sunderland Road is a VTS, with Wednesday as test day. (no testing at Saltmeadows). I believe Sandy Lane may have been used when the pit was being refurbished a few years ago, and also when Sandy Lane was be being refurbished, Sunderland Road was used for a small amount of testing as seem to recall seeing bin wagons etc being tested.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:08 pm)Dan wrote 1x Blaydon Racer
4x Wear Tees Xpress
2x Unknown (but we've assumed Laser or 'red spare' - the latter option being more realistic given it would probably be the two 06-reg ones).

I would say for the 2 unknown ones - Laser to replace 2 scania's but maybe a spare to Silver arrows and 27

Hi

Quick question (sorry if it has been asked before). I noticed 6100 today in the Interchange Sunderland and that it has a full rear destination display. Is this just a one off for this vehicle?



Thanks

(29 Jan 2014, 4:45 pm)aureolin wrote The alternative though is that we don't even get hints. Everything else that has been hinted on has happened, e.g. Versas, Streetlites, Geminis, and Solo SRs. Nobody is under any obligation to give confirmation. To be honest, I'd assume plans of "reallocation" are always subject to change anyway. They won't need the comprehensive business case, that I'd imagine the financial spend of new vehicles would.

I'm not saying Hints are Bad Thing, but i'm sure Myself and Other Members would Appreciate a Better Answer than "Are They", So that we don't get Confused and Become unaware if we have missed a Hint by a GNE Representative.

I don't know which ones have had the internal referb, but I believe there isn't many tridents/Renowns that haven't. I do believe all Solars have though, weren't the Fast Cats some of the last ones done? I don't really know why certain ones have and why others aren't.
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B10BLEs 4913, 4921, 4922 & 4923 have not been refurbed.

Not sure but I don't think 4954/55, 4973/4/5/6 have been refurbished, as they normally get repainted at the same time and none of original Fast Cats have been repainted.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:53 pm)morritt89 wrote Hi

Quick question (sorry if it has been asked before). I noticed 6100 today in the Interchange Sunderland and that it has a full rear destination display. Is this just a one off for this vehicle?



Thanks

All of the new B9TL vehicles are to receive full rear destination displays, with some of the Cobalt Clipper examples already having received them (citaro5284 shared a photograph a few pages ago).

(29 Jan 2014, 4:50 pm)Michael wrote I would say for the 2 unknown ones - Laser to replace 2 scania's but maybe a spare to Silver arrows and 27

5331, 5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 will be going to Thorntons for a Warranty repaint, (and so should Crusader 5328/29/30/32), so it seems likely that 5331 will go to Riverside depot (possibly silver) allowing 5332 to go red for Blaydon Racer.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:55 pm)park5354 wrote I don't know which ones have had the internal referb, but I believe there isn't many tridents/Renowns that haven't. I do believe all Solars have though, weren't the Fast Cats some of the last ones done? I don't really know why certain ones have and why others aren't.

B10BLEs 4913, 4921, 4922 & 4923 have not been refurbed.

Not sure but I don't think 4954/55, 4973/4/5/6 have been refurbished, as they normally get repainted at the same time and none of original Fast Cats have been repainted.
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All the Fast Cats have been Refurbished, Sure they got done Last Year, Correct me if I am Wrong.

(29 Jan 2014, 4:59 pm)park5354 wrote 5331, 5333, 5334, 5335, 5336 will be going to Thorntons for a Warranty repaint, (and so should Crusader 5328/29/30/32), so it seems likely that 5331 will go to Riverside depot (possibly silver) allowing 5332 to go red for Blaydon Racer.

Would be better if it was order and have 5332 go red for the Blaydon Racer..

Wonder how the Citaros would look in burgundy.