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I think nexus need to rethink upgrading the 18 (Benton to Walker) to deckers. As been on it a lot recently and there seems no need for the route to be decekrs.
The route was fine as Single deckers and should go back to it. Them 3 decekrs could go to routes that badly suffer with Single deck (22 being one of them)
(07 Dec 2022, 12:42 am)Aaron21 I think nexus need to rethink upgrading the 18 (Benton to Walker) to deckers. As been on it a lot recently and there seems no need for the route to be decekrs.
The route was fine as Single deckers and should go back to it. Them 3 decekrs could go to routes that badly suffer with Single deck (22 being one of them)
(07 Dec 2022, 12:42 am)Aaron21 I think nexus need to rethink upgrading the 18 (Benton to Walker) to deckers. As been on it a lot recently and there seems no need for the route to be decekrs.
The route was fine as Single deckers and should go back to it. Them 3 decekrs could go to routes that badly suffer with Single deck (22 being one of them)
(07 Dec 2022, 4:40 am)Dan I think there’s two boards which have journeys with very high loadings for school movements, hence the tender specification.What I don't understand is that it used to have two deckers allocated during then times. Wish they could back to it. Would stop the odd single deck appearing on the 22
It feels wasteful at other times but is needed for those journeys and it’s cheaper to allocate a double-deck all day than pay for extra peak buses.
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(07 Dec 2022, 4:40 am)Dan I think there’s two boards which have journeys with very high loadings for school movements, hence the tender specification.What I don't understand is that it used to have two deckers allocated during then times. Wish they could back to it. Would stop the odd single deck appearing on the 22
It feels wasteful at other times but is needed for those journeys and it’s cheaper to allocate a double-deck all day than pay for extra peak buses.
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(07 Dec 2022, 9:27 am)Aaron21 What I don't understand is that it used to have two deckers allocated during then times. Wish they could back to it. Would stop the odd single deck appearing on the 22
(07 Dec 2022, 9:27 am)Aaron21 What I don't understand is that it used to have two deckers allocated during then times. Wish they could back to it. Would stop the odd single deck appearing on the 22
(07 Dec 2022, 9:40 am)Thomas12 It’s hardly the odd single decker - I would say about 4 or 5 boards a day are operated by ALX300s or E200s, which isn’t ideal. Saw an E200 absolutely packed on there leaving Newcastle yesterday so they definitely shouldn’t be allocated.
The 12 seems to have them allocated quite a lot too - again not suitable for the service.
(07 Dec 2022, 9:40 am)Thomas12 It’s hardly the odd single decker - I would say about 4 or 5 boards a day are operated by ALX300s or E200s, which isn’t ideal. Saw an E200 absolutely packed on there leaving Newcastle yesterday so they definitely shouldn’t be allocated.
The 12 seems to have them allocated quite a lot too - again not suitable for the service.
(07 Dec 2022, 4:12 pm)Storx There's 9 of the Hybrids off road today, affording to tracking, that's why pretty much.Honestly I think the E400 are probs worse as the G2 Hybrids are on a really tough routes X5/X15/16/16A.
Not sure what's wrong with them but they seem as unreliable as the GNE ones.
(07 Dec 2022, 4:12 pm)Storx There's 9 of the Hybrids off road today, affording to tracking, that's why pretty much.Honestly I think the E400 are probs worse as the G2 Hybrids are on a really tough routes X5/X15/16/16A.
Not sure what's wrong with them but they seem as unreliable as the GNE ones.
(07 Dec 2022, 5:34 pm)Unber43 Honestly I think the E400 are probs worse as the G2 Hybrids are on a really tough routes X5/X15/16/16A.
They are very hilly, steep road. And you've obviously got the 60mph stretch on X5/X15.
)(07 Dec 2022, 5:34 pm)Unber43 Honestly I think the E400 are probs worse as the G2 Hybrids are on a really tough routes X5/X15/16/16A.
They are very hilly, steep road. And you've obviously got the 60mph stretch on X5/X15.
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(07 Dec 2022, 4:12 pm)Storx There's 9 of the Hybrids off road today, affording to tracking, that's why pretty much.I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.
Not sure what's wrong with them but they seem as unreliable as the GNE ones.
(07 Dec 2022, 4:12 pm)Storx There's 9 of the Hybrids off road today, affording to tracking, that's why pretty much.I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.
Not sure what's wrong with them but they seem as unreliable as the GNE ones.
(07 Dec 2022, 7:50 pm)ReDemPTiion I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.Really they need to replace all the 58/11 Plate E400s
(07 Dec 2022, 7:50 pm)ReDemPTiion I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.Really they need to replace all the 58/11 Plate E400s
(07 Dec 2022, 7:50 pm)ReDemPTiion I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.
(07 Dec 2022, 7:50 pm)ReDemPTiion I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.
(07 Dec 2022, 9:25 pm)Storx Thanks for that, not too surprised they seem to work in London pottering around at 20mph in traffic but anywhere else they're just useless. Shame considering how new they are really, should have a few years left on paper.At Wheatshef today only 1 was off.
The gas buses seem to be heading for the same direction by the sounds of things aswell.
(07 Dec 2022, 9:25 pm)Storx Thanks for that, not too surprised they seem to work in London pottering around at 20mph in traffic but anywhere else they're just useless. Shame considering how new they are really, should have a few years left on paper.At Wheatshef today only 1 was off.
The gas buses seem to be heading for the same direction by the sounds of things aswell.
With all this talk about unsuitable vehicles appearing on certain routes 10639 has been allocated to Slatyford 35 today a very strange allocation and waste of double decker.
(07 Dec 2022, 4:12 pm)Storx There's 9 of the Hybrids off road today, affording to tracking, that's why pretty much.
Not sure what's wrong with them but they seem as unreliable as the GNE ones.
(07 Dec 2022, 4:12 pm)Storx There's 9 of the Hybrids off road today, affording to tracking, that's why pretty much.
Not sure what's wrong with them but they seem as unreliable as the GNE ones.
(07 Dec 2022, 7:50 pm)ReDemPTiion I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.I'd say the most punishment theyve got/continue to get is on the 22,especially on Church Bank in Howdon, used to use it alot when i lived in Howdon, and sometimes they really do make some weird sounds when combating it,to the point where an 18 year old ALX300 sounds healthier than an 11 year old E400H
(07 Dec 2022, 7:50 pm)ReDemPTiion I was a driver for Walkergate for 6 years moved over to slatyford at the start of 2022 and been here since just passed 7 years with the company. The hybrids were good when they were on 39/40 but when they got their new buses and they started using them all over they were very prone to break downs. You had them on the 22’s where they got a lot of punishment with constant high revs then on the 1/12/38 where they are constantly stop starting. It’s about time they were scrapped in my opinion. Drivers aren’t keen on them, engineers don’t like them. They have a top speed of 45mph but I wouldn’t dare take it over 40 or you risk breaking down (which I did once running back from throckley down the central motorway). Newcastle are desperate for new buses especially Slatyford depot.I'd say the most punishment theyve got/continue to get is on the 22,especially on Church Bank in Howdon, used to use it alot when i lived in Howdon, and sometimes they really do make some weird sounds when combating it,to the point where an 18 year old ALX300 sounds healthier than an 11 year old E400H
(08 Dec 2022, 11:02 am)Lollist When are the MANviro 300s coming down to Stockton we are meant to have the Carslisle ones ages ago?the state of the rest of the slatyford fleet you may have to wait out for them coming, you can have the 08 ones though
(07 Dec 2022, 9:28 pm)Unber43 At Wheatshef today only 1 was off.
(08 Dec 2022, 12:22 pm)Chris 1 I'm not sure if the hybrid systems are different between the ADL and the Volvos. Series drive and parallel drive systems spring to mind, but it was years ago I was reading it.
(08 Dec 2022, 2:42 pm)V514DFT I'd say the most punishment theyve got/continue to get is on the 22,especially on Church Bank in Howdon, used to use it alot when i lived in Howdon, and sometimes they really do make some weird sounds when combating it,to the point where an 18 year old ALX300 sounds healthier than an 11 year old E400H
(07 Dec 2022, 9:28 pm)Unber43 At Wheatshef today only 1 was off.
(08 Dec 2022, 12:22 pm)Chris 1 I'm not sure if the hybrid systems are different between the ADL and the Volvos. Series drive and parallel drive systems spring to mind, but it was years ago I was reading it.
(08 Dec 2022, 2:42 pm)V514DFT I'd say the most punishment theyve got/continue to get is on the 22,especially on Church Bank in Howdon, used to use it alot when i lived in Howdon, and sometimes they really do make some weird sounds when combating it,to the point where an 18 year old ALX300 sounds healthier than an 11 year old E400H
(07 Dec 2022, 6:16 pm)Storx tbh I think it's just Hybrid's in general, just had a look to see how the ex Arriva NE batch are doing down in Yorkshire and it's much of the same 8/22 are off the road down there. Everyone was moaning at the time but Blyth probably got the better deal in the end of it with the reliable DB300's (mind 7612 has just passed my window sounding ill 50 minutes late but that's irrelevant
I know, according to the London Bus Forums, that no-one is interested in taking the London examples so suggests they're just not very good and are aging badly.
(07 Dec 2022, 6:16 pm)Storx tbh I think it's just Hybrid's in general, just had a look to see how the ex Arriva NE batch are doing down in Yorkshire and it's much of the same 8/22 are off the road down there. Everyone was moaning at the time but Blyth probably got the better deal in the end of it with the reliable DB300's (mind 7612 has just passed my window sounding ill 50 minutes late but that's irrelevant
I know, according to the London Bus Forums, that no-one is interested in taking the London examples so suggests they're just not very good and are aging badly.
