Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023
Newcastle and North Tyneside Tenders - March 2023
I notice that Nexus have issued a tender notice for services in North Tyneside and Newcastle, with a start date of March 2023, and a duration of 1 year.
I'm not sure of the route details, but I'm assuming they'll be the same as now. Nexus usually put out consultations if things are changing and I haven't noticed any.
(03 Jan 2023, 10:25 am)Thomas12 I notice that Nexus have issued a tender notice for services in North Tyneside and Newcastle, with a start date of March 2023, and a duration of 1 year.
I'm not sure of the route details, but I'm assuming they'll be the same as now. Nexus usually put out consultations if things are changing and I haven't noticed any.
(03 Jan 2023, 10:25 am)Thomas12 I notice that Nexus have issued a tender notice for services in North Tyneside and Newcastle, with a start date of March 2023, and a duration of 1 year.
I'm not sure of the route details, but I'm assuming they'll be the same as now. Nexus usually put out consultations if things are changing and I haven't noticed any.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:09 pm)OrangeArrow49 So if there are no route changes it will be the following:
18
32/32A
41/41A
84/84A
317
335
342
M6
Is that correct? Any others?
(03 Jan 2023, 12:09 pm)OrangeArrow49 So if there are no route changes it will be the following:
18
32/32A
41/41A
84/84A
317
335
342
M6
Is that correct? Any others?
(03 Jan 2023, 12:14 pm)Storx 1 (Evenings)
19
35
W1/W1A
W2
X46
(03 Jan 2023, 12:14 pm)Storx 1 (Evenings)
19
35
W1/W1A
W2
X46
(03 Jan 2023, 12:25 pm)OrangeArrow49 Oh yeah, I forgot about the evening 1s and the 35. Didn't realise the 19 was tendered and the X46 has only recently been awarded so didn't expect that would be up for tender for March.
W1/W1A and W2 I forgot about, but not as much as the evening 1s and the 35.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:25 pm)OrangeArrow49 Oh yeah, I forgot about the evening 1s and the 35. Didn't realise the 19 was tendered and the X46 has only recently been awarded so didn't expect that would be up for tender for March.
W1/W1A and W2 I forgot about, but not as much as the evening 1s and the 35.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:27 pm)Storx Yeah was just short tender, believe the 54 (Evenings / Sunday) might have been the same aswell actually.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:27 pm)Storx Yeah was just short tender, believe the 54 (Evenings / Sunday) might have been the same aswell actually.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:28 pm)Thomas12 I am wondering if we will see GCT bidding for less considering they have a decent amount of work in Durham - and they have already handed back the 516 contract. On the downside, this may mean Nexus struggle to cover all services.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:28 pm)Thomas12 I am wondering if we will see GCT bidding for less considering they have a decent amount of work in Durham - and they have already handed back the 516 contract. On the downside, this may mean Nexus struggle to cover all services.
(03 Jan 2023, 12:25 pm)Thomas12 The 41/41A is commercial Monday-Saturday daytime from Hadrian Park to Wallsend - the Hadrian Park to Howdon bit is secured, but I can't see that staying as no one uses it.There is no way the 41/41A is commercial. What about the 41A between Wallsend & Hadrian Park. Surely the Whitsher Drive isn't since that's the cut 42/42A
(03 Jan 2023, 12:25 pm)Thomas12 The 41/41A is commercial Monday-Saturday daytime from Hadrian Park to Wallsend - the Hadrian Park to Howdon bit is secured, but I can't see that staying as no one uses it.There is no way the 41/41A is commercial. What about the 41A between Wallsend & Hadrian Park. Surely the Whitsher Drive isn't since that's the cut 42/42A
Looks like the 41/41A (Howdon-Hadrian Park), 51 (Whitley Bay-Holystone), 84/84A, 552, M6, K2 are all being cancelled from March.
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation
(03 Jan 2023, 5:52 pm)Thomas12 Looks like the 41/41A (Howdon-Hadrian Park), 51 (Whitley Bay-Holystone), 84/84A, 552, M6, K2 are all being cancelled from March.That 51 is completely stupid. Holystone to Whitley Bay cut. What would be the point in the 51 staying at all
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation
(03 Jan 2023, 5:52 pm)Thomas12 Looks like the 41/41A (Howdon-Hadrian Park), 51 (Whitley Bay-Holystone), 84/84A, 552, M6, K2 are all being cancelled from March.That 51 is completely stupid. Holystone to Whitley Bay cut. What would be the point in the 51 staying at all
https://www.nexus.org.uk/consultation
(03 Jan 2023, 6:41 pm)Aaron21 That 51 is completely stupid. Holystone to Whitley Bay cut. What would be the point in the 51 staying at all
(03 Jan 2023, 6:41 pm)Aaron21 That 51 is completely stupid. Holystone to Whitley Bay cut. What would be the point in the 51 staying at all
I think option A is most likely to happen because I don't think they would want to risk running commercial beyond Holystone as if it is already funded by Nexus, it probably means that it isn't Viable.
I don't think with the "Driver shortage" they claim is going on, they would want to risk keeping it to Whitley Bay or making it every 30 minutes along the 54 route. This just shows the sorry state of affairs with buses in North Tyneside as yet another victim of Budget cuts and I think more cuts will happen shortly
To be honest, if Nexus/GNE/Arriva got services streamlined & cleaned up, the 51 (at least Wiltshire Drive) and 41/41A extension could at least be hoovered up by "big buses" leading into stable and profitable common corridors. But that's another debate.
As for the 51, I can see something like:
- 310 via Wiltshire Drive (309 also changed to serve High Farm) - part of rumoured Coast Road clean up with all 30x's runing every 20 mins each.
- 22 split 1x every 20 mins to Hadrian Park / 1x every 20 mins to Cobalt. This would replace the 311 and aleviate the need for the 310 to serve Hadrian Park.
- 1x 55 per hour extended to Whitley Bay via 51 route after Palmersville & Holystone.
I'm hoping the 84/84A, 552 and M6 are kept on a reduced timetable.
