Go North East March 2023 changes
Go North East March 2023 changes
Merging the 1 and 97 would be an absolute disaster and I don't care what anyone says there's so many bottlenecks and unless you give it stupid overtime will never recover (Tynemouth, Whitley Bay, Newcastle, Gateshead, Whickham, Bensham Bank and the Metro Centre just to name a few)
(06 Mar 2023, 9:39 pm)Storx Merging the 1 and 97 would be an absolute disaster and I don't care what anyone says there's so many bottlenecks and unless you give it stupid overtime will never recover (Tynemouth, Whitley Bay, Newcastle, Gateshead, Whickham, Bensham Bank and the Metro Centre just to name a few)15 mins either side would/ should surfice with 5 mins at Gateshead each way.
(06 Mar 2023, 9:39 pm)Storx Merging the 1 and 97 would be an absolute disaster and I don't care what anyone says there's so many bottlenecks and unless you give it stupid overtime will never recover (Tynemouth, Whitley Bay, Newcastle, Gateshead, Whickham, Bensham Bank and the Metro Centre just to name a few)15 mins either side would/ should surfice with 5 mins at Gateshead each way.
(06 Mar 2023, 9:42 pm)Unber43 15 mins either side would/ should surfice with 5 mins at Gateshead each way.
The 1 only have 5 mins either end, same with the 97
(06 Mar 2023, 9:42 pm)Unber43 15 mins either side would/ should surfice with 5 mins at Gateshead each way.
The 1 only have 5 mins either end, same with the 97
(06 Mar 2023, 9:28 pm)Andreos1 What was the reason for curtailing the 1 at Gateshead last time?
Sure there was something said about the E200's driving growth on the 97 too. Something about branding and titivations being enough to make passengers switch to the bus.
I don't know. Can't keep up anymore.
(06 Mar 2023, 9:28 pm)Andreos1 What was the reason for curtailing the 1 at Gateshead last time?
Sure there was something said about the E200's driving growth on the 97 too. Something about branding and titivations being enough to make passengers switch to the bus.
I don't know. Can't keep up anymore.
They seem to enjoy barfing up the same ideas from back in the day that dont work, and its always the 1, and one of the 90s they do it with, the 1 is long enough, leave it alone, it was only 18 months ago they reverted to 1 back to Whitley Bay- Gateshead, it doesnt work
2016 17 merged with the 96 and renumbered 11
2019 11 curtailed at Wallsend, replaced with the 1/ 1A- Failed
2020? 1 renumbered 1A/1B, 1 withdrawn- Failed
2021 1A/1B curtailed at Gateshead, renumbered back to 1- It Works
Thats just from the last 6 and a bit years, im sure theres plenty more before 2016
(07 Mar 2023, 8:32 am)V514DFT They seem to enjoy barfing up the same ideas from back in the day that dont work, and its always the 1, and one of the 90s they do it with, the 1 is long enough, leave it alone, it was only 18 months ago they reverted to 1 back to Whitley Bay- Gateshead, it doesnt work
2016 17 merged with the 96 and renumbered 11
2019 11 curtailed at Wallsend, replaced with the 1/ 1A- Failed
2020? 1 renumbered 1A/1B, 1 withdrawn- Failed
2021 1A/1B curtailed at Gateshead, renumbered back to 1- It Works
Thats just from the last 6 and a bit years, im sure theres plenty more before 2016
(07 Mar 2023, 8:32 am)V514DFT They seem to enjoy barfing up the same ideas from back in the day that dont work, and its always the 1, and one of the 90s they do it with, the 1 is long enough, leave it alone, it was only 18 months ago they reverted to 1 back to Whitley Bay- Gateshead, it doesnt work
2016 17 merged with the 96 and renumbered 11
2019 11 curtailed at Wallsend, replaced with the 1/ 1A- Failed
2020? 1 renumbered 1A/1B, 1 withdrawn- Failed
2021 1A/1B curtailed at Gateshead, renumbered back to 1- It Works
Thats just from the last 6 and a bit years, im sure theres plenty more before 2016
(07 Mar 2023, 8:32 am)V514DFT They seem to enjoy barfing up the same ideas from back in the day that dont work, and its always the 1, and one of the 90s they do it with, the 1 is long enough, leave it alone, it was only 18 months ago they reverted to 1 back to Whitley Bay- Gateshead, it doesnt workGNE also merged the 1 with the eastern section of the erstwhile 85/86 between North Shields and Whitley Bay, taking the 1 through Marden Estate and giving a very indirect route between those two towns. Annoyingly the western side was covered by the W3, a Nexus-supported bus service for which the contract was at first given to GNE. The whole route of the 85/86 circle had been, at the time, a commercial service.
2016 17 merged with the 96 and renumbered 11
2019 11 curtailed at Wallsend, replaced with the 1/ 1A- Failed
2020? 1 renumbered 1A/1B, 1 withdrawn- Failed
2021 1A/1B curtailed at Gateshead, renumbered back to 1- It Works
Thats just from the last 6 and a bit years, im sure theres plenty more before 2016
(07 Mar 2023, 8:32 am)V514DFT They seem to enjoy barfing up the same ideas from back in the day that dont work, and its always the 1, and one of the 90s they do it with, the 1 is long enough, leave it alone, it was only 18 months ago they reverted to 1 back to Whitley Bay- Gateshead, it doesnt workGNE also merged the 1 with the eastern section of the erstwhile 85/86 between North Shields and Whitley Bay, taking the 1 through Marden Estate and giving a very indirect route between those two towns. Annoyingly the western side was covered by the W3, a Nexus-supported bus service for which the contract was at first given to GNE. The whole route of the 85/86 circle had been, at the time, a commercial service.
2016 17 merged with the 96 and renumbered 11
2019 11 curtailed at Wallsend, replaced with the 1/ 1A- Failed
2020? 1 renumbered 1A/1B, 1 withdrawn- Failed
2021 1A/1B curtailed at Gateshead, renumbered back to 1- It Works
Thats just from the last 6 and a bit years, im sure theres plenty more before 2016
(07 Mar 2023, 9:35 am)Andreos1 The 301 has been like that since the 80s at least.
Someone may want to correct me, but it's been Kibblesworth along Saltwell Road, then Gateshead, then the Metrocentre when that opened, back to Gateshead, then a continued swap between Kibblesworth and Wrekenton via Durham Road or Gateshead and the Metrocentre ever since.
One advantage of the Metrocentre extension in the 90s, was that it had a slight variation and went along past Whickham Thorns and Market Lane. Immense at full-pelt on an Atlantean!
(07 Mar 2023, 10:28 am)Ex-conductor GNE also merged the 1 with the eastern section of the erstwhile 85/86 between North Shields and Whitley Bay, taking the 1 through Marden Estate and giving a very indirect route between those two towns. Annoyingly the western side was covered by the W3, a Nexus-supported bus service for which the contract was at first given to GNE. The whole route of the 85/86 circle had been, at the time, a commercial service.You're both bob on
When the 1/85/86 merger took place, buses along the sea front between Tynemouth and Culleroats, ceased, as did buses along the full length of the Broadway between Tynemouth and Whitley Bay with the withdrawal of the 310.
It's interesting to note that, from a very good network of bus services in the North Shields/Tynemouth area once operated by the Tynemouth bus company, only two GNE routes will serve those areas after 26 March (the 1 and the 307).
(07 Mar 2023, 9:35 am)Andreos1 The 301 has been like that since the 80s at least.
Someone may want to correct me, but it's been Kibblesworth along Saltwell Road, then Gateshead, then the Metrocentre when that opened, back to Gateshead, then a continued swap between Kibblesworth and Wrekenton via Durham Road or Gateshead and the Metrocentre ever since.
One advantage of the Metrocentre extension in the 90s, was that it had a slight variation and went along past Whickham Thorns and Market Lane. Immense at full-pelt on an Atlantean!
(07 Mar 2023, 10:28 am)Ex-conductor GNE also merged the 1 with the eastern section of the erstwhile 85/86 between North Shields and Whitley Bay, taking the 1 through Marden Estate and giving a very indirect route between those two towns. Annoyingly the western side was covered by the W3, a Nexus-supported bus service for which the contract was at first given to GNE. The whole route of the 85/86 circle had been, at the time, a commercial service.You're both bob on
When the 1/85/86 merger took place, buses along the sea front between Tynemouth and Culleroats, ceased, as did buses along the full length of the Broadway between Tynemouth and Whitley Bay with the withdrawal of the 310.
It's interesting to note that, from a very good network of bus services in the North Shields/Tynemouth area once operated by the Tynemouth bus company, only two GNE routes will serve those areas after 26 March (the 1 and the 307).
(07 Mar 2023, 12:01 pm)Michael PB0003954/1214
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 96 (96) Metrocentre Gateshead
PB0003954/304
(07 Mar 2023, 12:01 pm)Michael PB0003954/1214
Variation GO NORTH EAST LIMITED 96 (96) Metrocentre Gateshead
PB0003954/304
(07 Mar 2023, 12:37 pm)Thomas12 There is also confirmation that the 1 will be replacing the 97.
Registration number PB0003954/1221
Licence Number PB0003954
Status Variation
Service number.1, 1
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Whitley Bay
Finish point Metrocentre
Via Tynemouth, North Shields, Howdon, Wallsend, Byker, Newcastle, Gateshead, Whickham
Date received 07 Mar 2023
Effective date 26 Mar 2023
(07 Mar 2023, 12:37 pm)Thomas12 There is also confirmation that the 1 will be replacing the 97.
Registration number PB0003954/1221
Licence Number PB0003954
Status Variation
Service number.1, 1
Service type Normal Stopping
Start point Whitley Bay
Finish point Metrocentre
Via Tynemouth, North Shields, Howdon, Wallsend, Byker, Newcastle, Gateshead, Whickham
Date received 07 Mar 2023
Effective date 26 Mar 2023
It doesn’t make much sense after a fairly recent order of the new ADL buses for the 97, 4 year old the Enviros now? Appreciate a lot has happened during that time, but still. Assuming there’ll re-jig the Streetlites around so the 1 will have a full allocation of those, I wonder where the 10 Envrios will end up?
Is the 97 currently temporarily reduced? What was its frequency, every 15 mins?
(07 Mar 2023, 1:59 pm)Chris 1 Back to the future almost. This new incarnation of the 1 is one of those loony toons routes that were axed in the Peter Huntley days. They'll be wheeling the 638 out of retirement next.
(07 Mar 2023, 1:59 pm)Chris 1 Back to the future almost. This new incarnation of the 1 is one of those loony toons routes that were axed in the Peter Huntley days. They'll be wheeling the 638 out of retirement next.
(07 Mar 2023, 1:59 pm)Chris 1 Back to the future almost. This new incarnation of the 1 is one of those loony toons routes that were axed in the Peter Huntley days. They'll be wheeling the 638 out of retirement next.Why theyre at it, may aswell bring back all the routes from the 300 series
(07 Mar 2023, 1:59 pm)Chris 1 Back to the future almost. This new incarnation of the 1 is one of those loony toons routes that were axed in the Peter Huntley days. They'll be wheeling the 638 out of retirement next.Why theyre at it, may aswell bring back all the routes from the 300 series
(07 Mar 2023, 2:21 pm)Drifter60 It doesn’t make much sense after a fairly recent order of the new ADL buses for the 97, 4 year old the Enviros now? Appreciate a lot has happened during that time, but still. Assuming there’ll re-jig the Streetlites around so the 1 will have a full allocation of those, I wonder where the 10 Envrios will end up?Could the Enviro 200's not be distributed amongst the 6 & 12?
Is the 97 currently temporarily reduced? What was its frequency, every 15 mins?
(07 Mar 2023, 2:21 pm)Drifter60 It doesn’t make much sense after a fairly recent order of the new ADL buses for the 97, 4 year old the Enviros now? Appreciate a lot has happened during that time, but still. Assuming there’ll re-jig the Streetlites around so the 1 will have a full allocation of those, I wonder where the 10 Envrios will end up?Could the Enviro 200's not be distributed amongst the 6 & 12?
Is the 97 currently temporarily reduced? What was its frequency, every 15 mins?
(07 Mar 2023, 6:03 pm)tynesider Could the 1 extension to the MetroCentre be an indirect result of losing the 19 to Cowboy Taxis of Gateshead - erm I mean Central Taxis of Gateshead - to, at least in part, give Percy Main some lost work?It would compensate Percy Main for losing the 19 and 311, and will also take the pressure off Riverside which still struggles with cancellations at times.
(07 Mar 2023, 6:03 pm)tynesider Could the 1 extension to the MetroCentre be an indirect result of losing the 19 to Cowboy Taxis of Gateshead - erm I mean Central Taxis of Gateshead - to, at least in part, give Percy Main some lost work?It would compensate Percy Main for losing the 19 and 311, and will also take the pressure off Riverside which still struggles with cancellations at times.