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Old Timetables
Back in the 1990s and the first half of the 2000s, what timetable leaflets were produced in the area?

Was it the responsibility of the operators, or did Nexus used to provide leaflets for more than just secured services (as was the norm in West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Greater Manchester etc)?

And regardless of whether it was the operators or the PTE who did timetables, were they seperate ones for individual services like recently, or was there area guides/booklets etc?
Old Timetables
Timetables after 1986 became the responsibility of the bus operators, printed as individual leaflets for each service, though the PTE still published local guides.

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RE: Old Timetables
(10 Apr 2022, 8:20 pm)Wybus wrote Back in the 1990s and the first half of the 2000s, what timetable leaflets were produced in the area?

Was it the responsibility of the operators, or did Nexus used to provide leaflets for more than just secured services (as was the norm in West Yorkshire, South Yorkshire, Greater Manchester etc)?

And regardless of whether it was the operators or the PTE who did timetables, were they seperate ones for individual services like recently, or was there area guides/booklets etc?

TWPTE/Nexus produced detailed massive fold out timetables covering each LA area (with most LAs divided into segments so e.g. had ST1 and ST2 for different parts of South Tyneside and N1-N6 for Newcastle/North Tyneside).  These were produced up until the end of 1998 then discontinued.  For a number of years thereafter Nexus just produced maps (which were excellent) in a series covering the whole region.  They did also produce some individual timetables, and a few booklets covering certain areas but largely around hospitals, key workplaces etc - but nothing like as comprehensive as they massive foldouts had been.
RE: Old Timetables
Nexus around here mainly did leaflets for tickets, metro, route maps, secured services, misc services, school services. Operators were left to do their own leaflets. Even some indepdents produced their own leaflets.

I know the likes of South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire, Merseytravel and GMPTE did leaflets for all services. Not sure of the West Midlands as I didn't frequent the area much, mainly due to it being difficult getting cheap tickets on Virgin Cross Country Trains. Strathclyde acted similarly to Nexus producing leaflets for secured services, plus rail timetables in the Strathclyde area, with bus operators producing their own timetables. Not sure what the case is for each travel area now since I don't collect timetables anymore, and my travel planning is via digital means.
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RE: Old Timetables
The councils around Teesside produced timetable booklets for all the services running in their areas, certainly Redcar & Cleveland did and I think it might have been a joint effort with Middlesbrough, Stockton and Hartlepool too if memory serves.
It was quite a thick booklet and they did yearly versions I think, but sadly I never kept any of them as it would be interesting to look back at now!
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(21 Apr 2022, 7:13 am)tvd wrote The councils around Teesside produced timetable booklets for all the services running in their areas, certainly Redcar & Cleveland did and I think it might have been a joint effort with Middlesbrough, Stockton and Hartlepool too if memory serves.
It was quite a thick booklet and they did yearly versions I think,  but sadly I never kept any of them as it would be interesting to look back at now!
I picked up a giant version of the Hartlepool timetable one day from within a council office when I was doing some work for them. I then found out days later about all the cuts.
For some reason, I then binned it. Possibly disgust.
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(21 Apr 2022, 8:16 am)Andreos1 wrote I picked up a giant version of the Hartlepool timetable one day from within a council office when I was doing some work for them. I then found out days later about all the cuts.
For some reason, I then binned it. Possibly disgust.

There's no magic money tree to support little-used services as well as producing giant versions of timetables in colours ranging from battleship grey to sky blue pink. Shame on you for such wasteful behaviour, whether your disgust was justified or not.
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(21 Apr 2022, 8:49 am)MurdnunoC wrote There's no magic money tree to support little-used services as well as producing giant versions of timetables in colours ranging from battleship grey to sky blue pink. Shame on you for such wasteful behaviour, whether your disgust was justified or not.
What we need is a QCS scheme that puts a stop to all these handouts the multi national operators keep getting.
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Old Timetables
(10 Dec 2022, 6:57 pm)Jack Gill wrote Anyone have a pdf timetable of the M6/M7/M8 when they first began operating (2017 i think?), if there is a pdf timetable of course.


You could use the following link if you remember the website address during the past years, brings up the old website addresses with links to click on for old timetables etc… from years ago.

https://archive.org/web/


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RE: Old Timetables
(11 Dec 2022, 7:23 pm)Unber43 wrote Is wish there were all the timetables pdf for all pre-covid services

Most of them will be there. Are there any in particular you wish to view?
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(11 Dec 2022, 7:47 pm)MurdnunoC wrote Most of them will be there. Are there any in particular you wish to view?
X21, X9/X10, 20/20A, 55/55A/55X, 88/88A.
RE: Old Timetables
(17 Feb 2023, 4:11 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote There are a number of backroads roads between Kibblesworth, Streetgate & Sunniside. Have any buses been routed along these?
Not official services no. But the old X32 did occasionally come down what was known locally as co -op bank in Kibblesworth.

The short cut route from Sunniside goes direct to Lamesley past the garden centre and actually omits Kibblesworth.  A bus could access that route, but if you wanted to turn and access Kibblesworth it's a single track and I don't like taking my car along there let alone anyone taking a bus.  Brings you out at the farm at Kibblesworth.  Probably meet a tractor head on.
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(17 Feb 2023, 4:59 pm)ifm001 wrote Not official services no. But the old X32 did occasionally come down what was known locally as co -op bank in Kibblesworth.

The short cut route from Sunniside goes direct to Lamesley past the garden centre and actually omits Kibblesworth.  A bus could access that route, but if you wanted to turn and access Kibblesworth it's a single track and I don't like taking my car along there let alone anyone taking a bus.  Brings you out at the farm at Kibblesworth.  Probably meet a tractor head on.

There are probably lots of examples where buses operate on single track roads, especially in other parts of the country.
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RE: Old Timetables
(17 Feb 2023, 5:08 pm)ASX_Terranova wrote There are probably lots of examples where buses operate on single track roads, especially in other parts of the country.

Dunno about single track but certainly some fun looking routes in the Lakes especially the 77/78 - some of the roads they negotiate must be a bit of a challenge at times!
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(17 Feb 2023, 6:27 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Dunno about single track but certainly some fun looking routes in the Lakes especially the 77/78 - some of the roads they negotiate must be a bit of a challenge at times!

Folly Lane in Greenside is mostly single lane and is traversed by the 10A. There are also some single lane sections on the route of the 74 between exiting Darras Hall and Oakwood.
RE: Old Timetables
Does anyone have the old timetable for:

- X20/X21 to Bishop Auckland 
- X21 to West Auckland (with the late runs) 
- 43/44 Newcastle - Durham

Please?