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beefcake



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09 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm #1,601
To be honest aswell they could've used the Sunday route around the Manor aswell and kept the 7 standalone for the last couple of days to reduce knock on delays onto the 6 too. But instead they decided to reduce the frequency from every 10 to 12 minutes to offset the delays. So not only was there no larger buses, there was fewer running too
beefcake
09 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm #1,601

To be honest aswell they could've used the Sunday route around the Manor aswell and kept the 7 standalone for the last couple of days to reduce knock on delays onto the 6 too. But instead they decided to reduce the frequency from every 10 to 12 minutes to offset the delays. So not only was there no larger buses, there was fewer running too

col87



506
09 Jul 2023, 9:50 pm #1,602
It will be interesting to see what is used on the 59 tomorrow. If it a pvr of 3 then am going to guess one of the 397s and then either one of the 360s and 345s or 2 of the 360s. How long before a break down happens though ?
col87
09 Jul 2023, 9:50 pm #1,602

It will be interesting to see what is used on the 59 tomorrow. If it a pvr of 3 then am going to guess one of the 397s and then either one of the 360s and 345s or 2 of the 360s. How long before a break down happens though ?

glen



705
10 Jul 2023, 12:45 am #1,603
When Newcastle get new 400 MMC will Stockton get there old 400 double dockers buses?
glen
10 Jul 2023, 12:45 am #1,603

When Newcastle get new 400 MMC will Stockton get there old 400 double dockers buses?

pbjd



320
10 Jul 2023, 3:37 am #1,604
(09 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm)beefcake To be honest aswell they could've used the Sunday route around the Manor aswell and kept the 7 standalone for the last couple of days to reduce knock on delays onto the 6 too. But instead they decided to reduce the frequency from every 10 to 12 minutes to offset the delays. So not only was there no larger buses, there was fewer running too


I was under the impression more or at least the normal amount of buses were running, slightly lower frequency but offset by the increased running times.


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pbjd
10 Jul 2023, 3:37 am #1,604

(09 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm)beefcake To be honest aswell they could've used the Sunday route around the Manor aswell and kept the 7 standalone for the last couple of days to reduce knock on delays onto the 6 too. But instead they decided to reduce the frequency from every 10 to 12 minutes to offset the delays. So not only was there no larger buses, there was fewer running too


I was under the impression more or at least the normal amount of buses were running, slightly lower frequency but offset by the increased running times.


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10 Jul 2023, 6:27 am #1,605
(10 Jul 2023, 12:45 am)glen When Newcastle get new 400 MMC will Stockton get there old 400 double dockers buses?

Only if there's a business justification for Stockton to get deckers.  Otherwise they'll be cascaded around the Stagecoach empire - plenty of operations still using ALX400s!
Ianthegoon
10 Jul 2023, 6:27 am #1,605

(10 Jul 2023, 12:45 am)glen When Newcastle get new 400 MMC will Stockton get there old 400 double dockers buses?

Only if there's a business justification for Stockton to get deckers.  Otherwise they'll be cascaded around the Stagecoach empire - plenty of operations still using ALX400s!

Kuyoyo



6,856
10 Jul 2023, 7:42 am #1,606
(09 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm)beefcake To be honest aswell they could've used the Sunday route around the Manor aswell and kept the 7 standalone for the last couple of days to reduce knock on delays onto the 6 too. But instead they decided to reduce the frequency from every 10 to 12 minutes to offset the delays. So not only was there no larger buses, there was fewer running too

The 6/7 still interwork on Sunday daytimes at Owton Manor and have done since Covid. It’s only on evenings when the 7 does the loop.
And the frequency reduction was indeed to help with the delays - instead of trying to find extra drivers and buses, use the existing resources to your advantage (plus gets people use to when they officially drop to every 12 minutes at the end of the month).
Kuyoyo
10 Jul 2023, 7:42 am #1,606

(09 Jul 2023, 9:45 pm)beefcake To be honest aswell they could've used the Sunday route around the Manor aswell and kept the 7 standalone for the last couple of days to reduce knock on delays onto the 6 too. But instead they decided to reduce the frequency from every 10 to 12 minutes to offset the delays. So not only was there no larger buses, there was fewer running too

The 6/7 still interwork on Sunday daytimes at Owton Manor and have done since Covid. It’s only on evenings when the 7 does the loop.
And the frequency reduction was indeed to help with the delays - instead of trying to find extra drivers and buses, use the existing resources to your advantage (plus gets people use to when they officially drop to every 12 minutes at the end of the month).

10 Jul 2023, 9:28 am #1,607
(10 Jul 2023, 7:42 am)Kuyoyo The 6/7 still interwork on Sunday daytimes at Owton Manor and have done since Covid. It’s only on evenings when the 7 does the loop.
And the frequency reduction was indeed to help with the delays - instead of trying to find extra drivers and buses, use the existing resources to your advantage (plus gets people use to when they officially drop to every 12 minutes at the end of the month).
I got off the 7 yesterday one stop before my primary bus stop, as there was queue of traffic. I still beat the bus . Made sense to drop the frequency . However, it was half hourly yesteday which was strange.
Economic505
10 Jul 2023, 9:28 am #1,607

(10 Jul 2023, 7:42 am)Kuyoyo The 6/7 still interwork on Sunday daytimes at Owton Manor and have done since Covid. It’s only on evenings when the 7 does the loop.
And the frequency reduction was indeed to help with the delays - instead of trying to find extra drivers and buses, use the existing resources to your advantage (plus gets people use to when they officially drop to every 12 minutes at the end of the month).
I got off the 7 yesterday one stop before my primary bus stop, as there was queue of traffic. I still beat the bus . Made sense to drop the frequency . However, it was half hourly yesteday which was strange.

glen



705
10 Jul 2023, 11:39 pm #1,608
Anymore new 400MMC due at Newcastle depot yet?
glen
10 Jul 2023, 11:39 pm #1,608

Anymore new 400MMC due at Newcastle depot yet?

11 Jul 2023, 1:15 pm #1,609
24116 PX59 AZB currently sat at the back of Slatyford depot had broken down not long after arriving from Carlisle and had then been used for parts has now been put back together. Be interesting to see if that is to re-enter service be up in Newcastle on service 6/7 like 22581 or if it’ll head to Stockton.
ReDemPTiion
11 Jul 2023, 1:15 pm #1,609

24116 PX59 AZB currently sat at the back of Slatyford depot had broken down not long after arriving from Carlisle and had then been used for parts has now been put back together. Be interesting to see if that is to re-enter service be up in Newcastle on service 6/7 like 22581 or if it’ll head to Stockton.

Malarkey



6,064
11 Jul 2023, 6:01 pm #1,610
I would like to think that the new E400MMC's would not be scattered among a number of routes but stuck to a set route, from looking at PVR's they should be going on the 22's.
Malarkey
11 Jul 2023, 6:01 pm #1,610

I would like to think that the new E400MMC's would not be scattered among a number of routes but stuck to a set route, from looking at PVR's they should be going on the 22's.

11 Jul 2023, 6:53 pm #1,611
When is 27254 entering service again, it hasn’t been in service since the start of June
BusEnthusiast.com
11 Jul 2023, 6:53 pm #1,611

When is 27254 entering service again, it hasn’t been in service since the start of June

11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm #1,612
(07 Jul 2023, 6:59 pm)F114TML The last thing that open topper needs is more advertising. Plenty of drivers complain they can't keep their time cos the passengers are going to B but they'll go to A cos it's an open topper...
I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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GrahamD83
11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm #1,612

(07 Jul 2023, 6:59 pm)F114TML The last thing that open topper needs is more advertising. Plenty of drivers complain they can't keep their time cos the passengers are going to B but they'll go to A cos it's an open topper...
I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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11 Jul 2023, 7:53 pm #1,613
(11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm)GrahamD83 I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old  Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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Disagree, I think the open toppers should be on a route numbered E1X, or E3 that takes the entire coast route then up Ocean Road into Shields.
Edited 11 Jul 2023, 7:53 pm by deanmachine.
deanmachine
11 Jul 2023, 7:53 pm #1,613

(11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm)GrahamD83 I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old  Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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Disagree, I think the open toppers should be on a route numbered E1X, or E3 that takes the entire coast route then up Ocean Road into Shields.

11 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm #1,614
(11 Jul 2023, 6:53 pm)BusEnthusiast.com When is 27254 entering service again, it hasn’t been in service since the start of June

From what I understand it was having some engine troubles, drinking coolant faster than the other 27***’s. It’s currently in Slatyford engineering has been since being repainted hopefully won’t be much longer before being let back out in service.
ReDemPTiion
11 Jul 2023, 8:17 pm #1,614

(11 Jul 2023, 6:53 pm)BusEnthusiast.com When is 27254 entering service again, it hasn’t been in service since the start of June

From what I understand it was having some engine troubles, drinking coolant faster than the other 27***’s. It’s currently in Slatyford engineering has been since being repainted hopefully won’t be much longer before being let back out in service.

11 Jul 2023, 8:20 pm #1,615
(11 Jul 2023, 1:15 pm)ReDemPTiion 24116 PX59 AZB currently sat at the back of Slatyford depot had broken down not long after arriving from Carlisle and had then been used for parts has now been put back together. Be interesting to see if that is to re-enter service be up in Newcastle on service 6/7 like 22581 or if it’ll head to Stockton.

Spotted this too, seemed to have received donor parts from a beachball example on the rear.
stagecoachbusdepot
11 Jul 2023, 8:20 pm #1,615

(11 Jul 2023, 1:15 pm)ReDemPTiion 24116 PX59 AZB currently sat at the back of Slatyford depot had broken down not long after arriving from Carlisle and had then been used for parts has now been put back together. Be interesting to see if that is to re-enter service be up in Newcastle on service 6/7 like 22581 or if it’ll head to Stockton.

Spotted this too, seemed to have received donor parts from a beachball example on the rear.

LVK 404L



998
11 Jul 2023, 8:25 pm #1,616
(11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm)GrahamD83 I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old  Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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South Shields does have the 1 and 2 though, Saturdays Sundays and Bank Holidays.
LVK 404L
11 Jul 2023, 8:25 pm #1,616

(11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm)GrahamD83 I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old  Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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South Shields does have the 1 and 2 though, Saturdays Sundays and Bank Holidays.

glen



705
11 Jul 2023, 8:46 pm #1,617
24116 has been off road for months so why Stockton get some more second hard buses like EX300 from Scotland there better buses I think?
glen
11 Jul 2023, 8:46 pm #1,617

24116 has been off road for months so why Stockton get some more second hard buses like EX300 from Scotland there better buses I think?

V514DFT



2,266
11 Jul 2023, 10:59 pm #1,618
(11 Jul 2023, 8:25 pm)ifm001 South Shields does have the 1 and 2 though, Saturdays Sundays and Bank Holidays.

Whens duplicate numbers ever been a problem Wink

Kind Regards
Tez
V514DFT
11 Jul 2023, 10:59 pm #1,618

(11 Jul 2023, 8:25 pm)ifm001 South Shields does have the 1 and 2 though, Saturdays Sundays and Bank Holidays.

Whens duplicate numbers ever been a problem Wink


Kind Regards
Tez

12 Jul 2023, 4:46 am #1,619
(11 Jul 2023, 8:20 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Spotted this too, seemed to have received donor parts from a beachball example on the rear.

Was surprised to see it, it’ll have to go for repaint again assumed it would no longer be seen then all of a sudden put back together
ReDemPTiion
12 Jul 2023, 4:46 am #1,619

(11 Jul 2023, 8:20 pm)stagecoachbusdepot Spotted this too, seemed to have received donor parts from a beachball example on the rear.

Was surprised to see it, it’ll have to go for repaint again assumed it would no longer be seen then all of a sudden put back together

12 Jul 2023, 7:12 am #1,620
(11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm)GrahamD83 I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old  Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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No point in renumbering a services which have 36 years history running as E1/2/6. People refer to them as the ‘E’ buses. I do agree, that the old Ecomomic  livery would look good.
Economic505
12 Jul 2023, 7:12 am #1,620

(11 Jul 2023, 7:01 pm)GrahamD83 I would like to see the E services renumbered as simply the 1, 2 and 6. These numbers are unallocated in both Sunderland and South Shields, so wouldn't confuse passengers.

The E1 number could then be used for a seasonal open top service along the coast. Would be nice to have the open toppers in the old  Economic brown and cream, would suit the ALX400 really well.

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No point in renumbering a services which have 36 years history running as E1/2/6. People refer to them as the ‘E’ buses. I do agree, that the old Ecomomic  livery would look good.

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