Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
Arriva North East: Upcoming Service Changes
(01 Aug 2023, 4:36 am)Dan Imagine these could be BSIP funded.If the X16 was tendered to another operator other than Arriva.....would Transport North East / Nexus and Northumberland CC have powers to agree mutual ticket acceptance & coordinated timetabling between the tendered service and the X14/X15/X18?
Northumberland County Council are currently tendering an additional hourly 57A service to run during the day Mon-Sat from Ashington to Cramlington (so it is a combined half hourly service) and they are also tendering the X16 service which is being reinstated.
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(01 Aug 2023, 4:36 am)Dan Imagine these could be BSIP funded.If the X16 was tendered to another operator other than Arriva.....would Transport North East / Nexus and Northumberland CC have powers to agree mutual ticket acceptance & coordinated timetabling between the tendered service and the X14/X15/X18?
Northumberland County Council are currently tendering an additional hourly 57A service to run during the day Mon-Sat from Ashington to Cramlington (so it is a combined half hourly service) and they are also tendering the X16 service which is being reinstated.
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(01 Aug 2023, 4:36 am)Dan Imagine these could be BSIP funded.
Northumberland County Council are currently tendering an additional hourly 57A service to run during the day Mon-Sat from Ashington to Cramlington (so it is a combined half hourly service) and they are also tendering the X16 service which is being reinstated.
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(01 Aug 2023, 4:36 am)Dan Imagine these could be BSIP funded.
Northumberland County Council are currently tendering an additional hourly 57A service to run during the day Mon-Sat from Ashington to Cramlington (so it is a combined half hourly service) and they are also tendering the X16 service which is being reinstated.
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(01 Aug 2023, 6:45 am)L469 YVK If the X16 was tendered to another operator other than Arriva.....would Transport North East / Nexus and Northumberland CC have powers to agree mutual ticket acceptance & coordinated timetabling between the tendered service and the X14/X15/X18?
(01 Aug 2023, 6:45 am)L469 YVK If the X16 was tendered to another operator other than Arriva.....would Transport North East / Nexus and Northumberland CC have powers to agree mutual ticket acceptance & coordinated timetabling between the tendered service and the X14/X15/X18?
(01 Aug 2023, 6:45 am)L469 YVK If the X16 was tendered to another operator other than Arriva.....would Transport North East / Nexus and Northumberland CC have powers to agree mutual ticket acceptance & coordinated timetabling between the tendered service and the X14/X15/X18?
(01 Aug 2023, 6:45 am)L469 YVK If the X16 was tendered to another operator other than Arriva.....would Transport North East / Nexus and Northumberland CC have powers to agree mutual ticket acceptance & coordinated timetabling between the tendered service and the X14/X15/X18?
(01 Aug 2023, 8:59 am)Bazza It would make sense to have mutual ticket acceptance and a coordinated timetable, but unless Arriva are somehow compensated, I cannot see any benefit to them to accept tickets issued on the X16.
(01 Aug 2023, 8:59 am)Bazza It would make sense to have mutual ticket acceptance and a coordinated timetable, but unless Arriva are somehow compensated, I cannot see any benefit to them to accept tickets issued on the X16.
Will the X16 go back up to Kirkhill or just terminate at Morpeth?
553 will be allocated NK12 FLL 1499 from September now. Check the Flickr link I took today. Its been re-branded from 47 to 553
https://flic.kr/p/2oTuJYc
Arriva changes are live. New 434 and other changes
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...e-and-wear
(08 Aug 2023, 1:24 pm)Busu284 Arriva changes are live. New 434 and other changes
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...e-and-wear
(08 Aug 2023, 1:24 pm)Busu284 Arriva changes are live. New 434 and other changes
https://www.arrivabus.co.uk/latest-news/...e-and-wear
(08 Aug 2023, 6:35 pm)mb134 The layover at Bedlington Station on that 07:26 trip seems a tad excessive...Putting the ABTRL aside, Arriva are missing a trick withthe X8 and 43. Could speed the X9 up at the same time too.
Glad they've taken action to sort out the 43/44/45 by putting an extra bus into it, the Morpeth 43s in particular seem to struggle to make up any time. I guess if their decision when leaving Newcastle was to choose the GNR services over the 50s, it makes sense to ensure they're operated properly to improve reliability and customer satisfaction.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:35 pm)mb134 The layover at Bedlington Station on that 07:26 trip seems a tad excessive...Putting the ABTRL aside, Arriva are missing a trick withthe X8 and 43. Could speed the X9 up at the same time too.
Glad they've taken action to sort out the 43/44/45 by putting an extra bus into it, the Morpeth 43s in particular seem to struggle to make up any time. I guess if their decision when leaving Newcastle was to choose the GNR services over the 50s, it makes sense to ensure they're operated properly to improve reliability and customer satisfaction.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:35 pm)mb134 The layover at Bedlington Station on that 07:26 trip seems a tad excessive...
Glad they've taken action to sort out the 43/44/45 by putting an extra bus into it, the Morpeth 43s in particular seem to struggle to make up any time. I guess if their decision when leaving Newcastle was to choose the GNR services over the 50s, it makes sense to ensure they're operated properly to improve reliability and customer satisfaction.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:35 pm)mb134 The layover at Bedlington Station on that 07:26 trip seems a tad excessive...
Glad they've taken action to sort out the 43/44/45 by putting an extra bus into it, the Morpeth 43s in particular seem to struggle to make up any time. I guess if their decision when leaving Newcastle was to choose the GNR services over the 50s, it makes sense to ensure they're operated properly to improve reliability and customer satisfaction.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:57 pm)Storx Wonder if it might drop into a local school bus somewhere - not sure what mind but it's about the right time to do one.
Not sure it's just about timekeeping though, if I'm looking at it right they all appear to be interworking now so I guess the extra bus will save the time for driver's having to drive to I'd assume the Regent Centre to make changeovers on the 44/45.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:57 pm)Storx Wonder if it might drop into a local school bus somewhere - not sure what mind but it's about the right time to do one.
Not sure it's just about timekeeping though, if I'm looking at it right they all appear to be interworking now so I guess the extra bus will save the time for driver's having to drive to I'd assume the Regent Centre to make changeovers on the 44/45.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:57 pm)Storx Wonder if it might drop into a local school bus somewhere - not sure what mind but it's about the right time to do one.
Not sure it's just about timekeeping though, if I'm looking at it right they all appear to be interworking now so I guess the extra bus will save the time for driver's having to drive to I'd assume the Regent Centre to make changeovers on the 44/45.
(08 Aug 2023, 6:57 pm)Storx Wonder if it might drop into a local school bus somewhere - not sure what mind but it's about the right time to do one.
Not sure it's just about timekeeping though, if I'm looking at it right they all appear to be interworking now so I guess the extra bus will save the time for driver's having to drive to I'd assume the Regent Centre to make changeovers on the 44/45.
(08 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm)Shrek Trying to work out from the timetable, will the 44 and 45 do return journeys now, rather than doing Newcastle to Dinnington as 44 and returning to Newcastle as 45 and vice versa as they do currently? I'm guessing that will be the case, or long layovers at Dinnington?
(08 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm)Shrek Trying to work out from the timetable, will the 44 and 45 do return journeys now, rather than doing Newcastle to Dinnington as 44 and returning to Newcastle as 45 and vice versa as they do currently? I'm guessing that will be the case, or long layovers at Dinnington?
(08 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm)Shrek Trying to work out from the timetable, will the 44 and 45 do return journeys now, rather than doing Newcastle to Dinnington as 44 and returning to Newcastle as 45 and vice versa as they do currently? I'm guessing that will be the case, or long layovers at Dinnington?
(08 Aug 2023, 7:09 pm)mb134 The 448 is the current schoolbus linked to the 434, but currently it is timed to arrive at Bedlington Station at the exact same time as the 434 is now timed to arrive there. I assume the school may start at 08:30? So there'd be no time for it to drop onto that. It may be timed as such to get kids from Cambois to Bedlington Station for school start, and ensuring the return is fully in ENCTS scope?
It looks like it is to get them interworking, but I don't think they'd ever need to go to Regent Centre for changeovers? Either way, there's now 14 minutes layover at Morpeth which is much needed.
(08 Aug 2023, 8:01 pm)Shrek Trying to work out from the timetable, will the 44 and 45 do return journeys now, rather than doing Newcastle to Dinnington as 44 and returning to Newcastle as 45 and vice versa as they do currently? I'm guessing that will be the case, or long layovers at Dinnington?
(08 Aug 2023, 7:09 pm)mb134 The 448 is the current schoolbus linked to the 434, but currently it is timed to arrive at Bedlington Station at the exact same time as the 434 is now timed to arrive there. I assume the school may start at 08:30? So there'd be no time for it to drop onto that. It may be timed as such to get kids from Cambois to Bedlington Station for school start, and ensuring the return is fully in ENCTS scope?
It looks like it is to get them interworking, but I don't think they'd ever need to go to Regent Centre for changeovers? Either way, there's now 14 minutes layover at Morpeth which is much needed.
(08 Aug 2023, 8:23 pm)L469 YVK Looks that way as it does for the 43 in Cramlington.
How will Arriva do remote changeovers in Cramlington? Do they have ancillary vehicles like Go North East such as vans?
On another note......although it could potentially be catastrophic with Haddricks Mill, could the 'long layovers' at Dinnington and Cramlington not allow the 43/44/45 to interwork with the X7/X8/X10/X11 to reduce dead mileage?
(08 Aug 2023, 8:23 pm)L469 YVK Looks that way as it does for the 43 in Cramlington.
How will Arriva do remote changeovers in Cramlington? Do they have ancillary vehicles like Go North East such as vans?
On another note......although it could potentially be catastrophic with Haddricks Mill, could the 'long layovers' at Dinnington and Cramlington not allow the 43/44/45 to interwork with the X7/X8/X10/X11 to reduce dead mileage?
(09 Aug 2023, 11:07 am)RobinHood Might happen in future, but currently due to driver knowledge, the 43/4/5 are scheduled separate to Blyth work.
(09 Aug 2023, 11:07 am)RobinHood Might happen in future, but currently due to driver knowledge, the 43/4/5 are scheduled separate to Blyth work.
(09 Aug 2023, 2:45 pm)Storx Assuming it's not possible anyway, because of the electric buses. Unless they want to outright ignore the terms the buses must stay on the route they were bought for.
