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Unber43



3,555
29 Jan 2024, 11:46 am #221
Really Nexus should make them do alteast 1 bus a month or their contract gets terminated
Unber43
29 Jan 2024, 11:46 am #221

Really Nexus should make them do alteast 1 bus a month or their contract gets terminated

Aaron21



785
29 Jan 2024, 12:18 pm #222
(29 Jan 2024, 11:46 am)Unber43 Really Nexus should make them do alteast 1 bus a month or their contract gets terminated

What just cause of no luggage racks. Imagine if gne had the service and they didn't have luggage racks or stagecoach would you say the same thing
Aaron21
29 Jan 2024, 12:18 pm #222

(29 Jan 2024, 11:46 am)Unber43 Really Nexus should make them do alteast 1 bus a month or their contract gets terminated

What just cause of no luggage racks. Imagine if gne had the service and they didn't have luggage racks or stagecoach would you say the same thing

Unber43



3,555
29 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm #223
(29 Jan 2024, 12:18 pm)Aaron21 What just cause of no luggage racks. Imagine if gne had the service and they didn't have luggage racks or stagecoach would you say the same thing
Whether I would or not, its a clear breach of a contract.

If GNE or SCNE blatantly ignored Nexus Contract Demands i would want it stripped from them
Unber43
29 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm #223

(29 Jan 2024, 12:18 pm)Aaron21 What just cause of no luggage racks. Imagine if gne had the service and they didn't have luggage racks or stagecoach would you say the same thing
Whether I would or not, its a clear breach of a contract.

If GNE or SCNE blatantly ignored Nexus Contract Demands i would want it stripped from them

mb134



4,151
29 Jan 2024, 12:49 pm #224
(29 Jan 2024, 11:37 am)Aaron21 Wonder how long it takes to have luggage racks taken fitted with seats taken out. Must be done as quick as possible to fit the needs of someone complaining

I'm going to say probably less than 2 months? Buses have been given full refurbishments in less time than that. 

Ultimately it's a service marketed as going to the airport, so people will expect luggage racks.

Don't bid for the service if you can't meet the spec.
mb134
29 Jan 2024, 12:49 pm #224

(29 Jan 2024, 11:37 am)Aaron21 Wonder how long it takes to have luggage racks taken fitted with seats taken out. Must be done as quick as possible to fit the needs of someone complaining

I'm going to say probably less than 2 months? Buses have been given full refurbishments in less time than that. 

Ultimately it's a service marketed as going to the airport, so people will expect luggage racks.

Don't bid for the service if you can't meet the spec.

Dan

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18,120
29 Jan 2024, 1:48 pm #225
(29 Jan 2024, 12:18 pm)Aaron21 What just cause of no luggage racks. Imagine if gne had the service and they didn't have luggage racks or stagecoach would you say the same thing


If Go North East had won the contract, they were prepared to have two buses modified to meet contract specification from day one of the service being operational.

But if they hadn’t, the comments on this forum would have been far worse than the comments Umber43 has made against Arriva.

I hope three buses are planned to be repainted/branded and not just one bus (1512), as the rumour mill suggests.


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Dan
29 Jan 2024, 1:48 pm #225

(29 Jan 2024, 12:18 pm)Aaron21 What just cause of no luggage racks. Imagine if gne had the service and they didn't have luggage racks or stagecoach would you say the same thing


If Go North East had won the contract, they were prepared to have two buses modified to meet contract specification from day one of the service being operational.

But if they hadn’t, the comments on this forum would have been far worse than the comments Umber43 has made against Arriva.

I hope three buses are planned to be repainted/branded and not just one bus (1512), as the rumour mill suggests.


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DeltaMan



560
29 Jan 2024, 2:06 pm #226
(29 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm)Unber43 Whether I would or not, its a clear breach of a contract.

If GNE or SCNE blatantly ignored Nexus Contract Demands i would want it stripped from them

Gateshead Central Taxis have been breaching contracts for years, and nothing gets done. For example two of the three buses on the 19 the other day were the little mjnj buses and not full sized. I've lost track of the number of 342s that haven't turned up in my time and I imagine that is the thin end of the wedge and all, if what if I've been told is 1% of what actually has been going on
Edited 29 Jan 2024, 2:13 pm by DeltaMan.
DeltaMan
29 Jan 2024, 2:06 pm #226

(29 Jan 2024, 12:31 pm)Unber43 Whether I would or not, its a clear breach of a contract.

If GNE or SCNE blatantly ignored Nexus Contract Demands i would want it stripped from them

Gateshead Central Taxis have been breaching contracts for years, and nothing gets done. For example two of the three buses on the 19 the other day were the little mjnj buses and not full sized. I've lost track of the number of 342s that haven't turned up in my time and I imagine that is the thin end of the wedge and all, if what if I've been told is 1% of what actually has been going on

Aaron21



785
29 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm #227
(29 Jan 2024, 1:48 pm)Dan If Go North East had won the contract, they were prepared to have two buses modified to meet contract specification from day one of the service being operational.

But if they hadn’t, the comments on this forum would have been far worse than the comments Umber43 has made against Arriva.

I hope three buses are planned to be repainted/branded and not just one bus (1512), as the rumour mill suggests.


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1537 has been of the road since the 11th January so maybe that's being done. 1512/1513/1479 have all returned to Ashington since October (1479 moving last night). Its possible Arriva haven't had spare buses to covert with luggage racks or even get a brand. Remember the amount of buses Walkergate had to loan while the StreetLite got painted. Its possible the same here
Aaron21
29 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm #227

(29 Jan 2024, 1:48 pm)Dan If Go North East had won the contract, they were prepared to have two buses modified to meet contract specification from day one of the service being operational.

But if they hadn’t, the comments on this forum would have been far worse than the comments Umber43 has made against Arriva.

I hope three buses are planned to be repainted/branded and not just one bus (1512), as the rumour mill suggests.


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1537 has been of the road since the 11th January so maybe that's being done. 1512/1513/1479 have all returned to Ashington since October (1479 moving last night). Its possible Arriva haven't had spare buses to covert with luggage racks or even get a brand. Remember the amount of buses Walkergate had to loan while the StreetLite got painted. Its possible the same here

Storx



4,595
29 Jan 2024, 2:47 pm #228
Never mind the actual buses, the routes really need looked at. Having it interworking with the X16 just does not make sense in any way at all, considering the X16 really should be Decker's and I haven't seen the 777 but I can imagine what the loads will be like the 777 and I'll be fairly certain a minibus will be enough (and that's not a typo for midi either).

Also having luggage racks and airport branding on the X16, is confusing as an understatement.

I'm not sure how possible it would be, but surely merging the 777 with the Morpeth locals, and the X16 potentially extended to Northgate every hour (replacing the 417) to give a large housing estate a proper bus service would make more sense...
Edited 29 Jan 2024, 2:48 pm by Storx.
Storx
29 Jan 2024, 2:47 pm #228

Never mind the actual buses, the routes really need looked at. Having it interworking with the X16 just does not make sense in any way at all, considering the X16 really should be Decker's and I haven't seen the 777 but I can imagine what the loads will be like the 777 and I'll be fairly certain a minibus will be enough (and that's not a typo for midi either).

Also having luggage racks and airport branding on the X16, is confusing as an understatement.

I'm not sure how possible it would be, but surely merging the 777 with the Morpeth locals, and the X16 potentially extended to Northgate every hour (replacing the 417) to give a large housing estate a proper bus service would make more sense...

Aaron21



785
29 Jan 2024, 2:52 pm #229
(29 Jan 2024, 2:47 pm)Storx Never mind the actual buses, the routes really need looked at. Having it interworking with the X16 just does not make sense in any way at all, considering the X16 really should be Decker's and I haven't seen the 777 but I can imagine what the loads will be like the 777 and I'll be fairly certain a minibus will be enough (and that's not a typo for midi either).

Also having luggage racks and airport branding on the X16, is confusing as an understatement.

I'm not sure how possible it would be, but surely merging the 777 with the Morpeth locals, and the X16 potentially extended to Northgate every hour (replacing the 417) to give a large housing estate a proper bus service would make more sense...

Both the 777 & X16 get a long layover in Morpeth. Makes sense to make them interwork instead of having them sit there till its time for a return trip. 

Also prob the reason it'll be not known much is cause Northumberland County Council ain't the fastest at update timetables
Aaron21
29 Jan 2024, 2:52 pm #229

(29 Jan 2024, 2:47 pm)Storx Never mind the actual buses, the routes really need looked at. Having it interworking with the X16 just does not make sense in any way at all, considering the X16 really should be Decker's and I haven't seen the 777 but I can imagine what the loads will be like the 777 and I'll be fairly certain a minibus will be enough (and that's not a typo for midi either).

Also having luggage racks and airport branding on the X16, is confusing as an understatement.

I'm not sure how possible it would be, but surely merging the 777 with the Morpeth locals, and the X16 potentially extended to Northgate every hour (replacing the 417) to give a large housing estate a proper bus service would make more sense...

Both the 777 & X16 get a long layover in Morpeth. Makes sense to make them interwork instead of having them sit there till its time for a return trip. 

Also prob the reason it'll be not known much is cause Northumberland County Council ain't the fastest at update timetables

mb134



4,151
29 Jan 2024, 3:15 pm #230
(29 Jan 2024, 2:47 pm)Storx Never mind the actual buses, the routes really need looked at. Having it interworking with the X16 just does not make sense in any way at all, considering the X16 really should be Decker's and I haven't seen the 777 but I can imagine what the loads will be like the 777 and I'll be fairly certain a minibus will be enough (and that's not a typo for midi either).

The X16 is fine with full size saloons.
mb134
29 Jan 2024, 3:15 pm #230

(29 Jan 2024, 2:47 pm)Storx Never mind the actual buses, the routes really need looked at. Having it interworking with the X16 just does not make sense in any way at all, considering the X16 really should be Decker's and I haven't seen the 777 but I can imagine what the loads will be like the 777 and I'll be fairly certain a minibus will be enough (and that's not a typo for midi either).

The X16 is fine with full size saloons.

Storx



4,595
29 Jan 2024, 3:42 pm #231
(29 Jan 2024, 2:52 pm)Aaron21 Both the 777 & X16 get a long layover in Morpeth. Makes sense to make them interwork instead of having them sit there till its time for a return trip. 

Also prob the reason it'll be not known much is cause Northumberland County Council ain't the fastest at update timetables

Aye it's why I mentioned the other services ie 417 and that, which is poor really. 

Tbf there's no-where for timetable information in Northumberland if it's like here it's just a QR code now.
Storx
29 Jan 2024, 3:42 pm #231

(29 Jan 2024, 2:52 pm)Aaron21 Both the 777 & X16 get a long layover in Morpeth. Makes sense to make them interwork instead of having them sit there till its time for a return trip. 

Also prob the reason it'll be not known much is cause Northumberland County Council ain't the fastest at update timetables

Aye it's why I mentioned the other services ie 417 and that, which is poor really. 

Tbf there's no-where for timetable information in Northumberland if it's like here it's just a QR code now.

mb134



4,151
29 Jan 2024, 3:47 pm #232
(29 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm)Aaron21 1537 has been of the road since the 11th January so maybe that's being done. 1512/1513/1479 have all returned to Ashington since October (1479 moving last night). Its possible Arriva haven't had spare buses to covert with luggage racks or even get a brand. Remember the amount of buses Walkergate had to loan while the StreetLite got painted. Its possible the same here

Realistically though, it should be straightforward enough to fit vehicles with luggage racks (even if the branding is waiting until NCC finalise a design, if that is the case). 

Most luggage racks, such as those Stagecoach use (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N...nvW-8QiHc5), are literally some metal poles and a bit of wood.
mb134
29 Jan 2024, 3:47 pm #232

(29 Jan 2024, 2:07 pm)Aaron21 1537 has been of the road since the 11th January so maybe that's being done. 1512/1513/1479 have all returned to Ashington since October (1479 moving last night). Its possible Arriva haven't had spare buses to covert with luggage racks or even get a brand. Remember the amount of buses Walkergate had to loan while the StreetLite got painted. Its possible the same here

Realistically though, it should be straightforward enough to fit vehicles with luggage racks (even if the branding is waiting until NCC finalise a design, if that is the case). 

Most luggage racks, such as those Stagecoach use (https://www.flickr.com/photos/41987105@N...nvW-8QiHc5), are literally some metal poles and a bit of wood.

Aaron21



785
29 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm #233
(29 Jan 2024, 3:42 pm)Storx Aye it's why I mentioned the other services ie 417 and that, which is poor really. 

Tbf there's no-where for timetable information in Northumberland if it's like here it's just a QR code now.

Morpeth Bus Station didn't even have the 777 timetable updated yesterday when I was there yet nexus had the 777 timetable updated within a week of the changes
Aaron21
29 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm #233

(29 Jan 2024, 3:42 pm)Storx Aye it's why I mentioned the other services ie 417 and that, which is poor really. 

Tbf there's no-where for timetable information in Northumberland if it's like here it's just a QR code now.

Morpeth Bus Station didn't even have the 777 timetable updated yesterday when I was there yet nexus had the 777 timetable updated within a week of the changes

Storx



4,595
29 Jan 2024, 7:49 pm #234
(29 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm)Aaron21 Morpeth Bus Station didn't even have the 777 timetable updated yesterday when I was there yet nexus had the 777 timetable updated within a week of the changes

Ah that's fair, isn't the timetable stuff in Northumberland done by Nexus now? 

I'm sure Northumberland Council sub contracted it out, awhile back. Not sure if it ended though. I know the local parish councillors done it last time around here as no-one else bothers.
Edited 29 Jan 2024, 7:50 pm by Storx.
Storx
29 Jan 2024, 7:49 pm #234

(29 Jan 2024, 6:57 pm)Aaron21 Morpeth Bus Station didn't even have the 777 timetable updated yesterday when I was there yet nexus had the 777 timetable updated within a week of the changes

Ah that's fair, isn't the timetable stuff in Northumberland done by Nexus now? 

I'm sure Northumberland Council sub contracted it out, awhile back. Not sure if it ended though. I know the local parish councillors done it last time around here as no-one else bothers.

29 Jan 2024, 7:52 pm #235
Timetable production is handled by Nexus, then it gets handed to the parish councils.

So it would be Morpeth Town Council or Sanderson Arcade who handle it at Morpeth bus station.
omnicity4659
29 Jan 2024, 7:52 pm #235

Timetable production is handled by Nexus, then it gets handed to the parish councils.

So it would be Morpeth Town Council or Sanderson Arcade who handle it at Morpeth bus station.

Storx



4,595
29 Jan 2024, 8:05 pm #236
(29 Jan 2024, 7:52 pm)omnicity4659 Timetable production is handled by Nexus, then it gets handed to the parish councils.

So it would be Morpeth Town Council or Sanderson Arcade who handle it at Morpeth bus station.

Aye that's fair, wasn't sure how it worked. Makes sense in why the parish councillors done it here last time aswell.
Storx
29 Jan 2024, 8:05 pm #236

(29 Jan 2024, 7:52 pm)omnicity4659 Timetable production is handled by Nexus, then it gets handed to the parish councils.

So it would be Morpeth Town Council or Sanderson Arcade who handle it at Morpeth bus station.

Aye that's fair, wasn't sure how it worked. Makes sense in why the parish councillors done it here last time aswell.

Aaron21



785
01 Feb 2024, 3:44 pm #237
I hope that Ashington come to there senses and upgrade the 57/57A to long buses. These solos now can't handle the capacity they get. I've seen loads of trips now be a full solo. This needs looked into to see what can be done
Aaron21
01 Feb 2024, 3:44 pm #237

I hope that Ashington come to there senses and upgrade the 57/57A to long buses. These solos now can't handle the capacity they get. I've seen loads of trips now be a full solo. This needs looked into to see what can be done

mb134



4,151
01 Feb 2024, 5:00 pm #238
(01 Feb 2024, 3:44 pm)Aaron21 I hope that Ashington come to there senses and upgrade the 57/57A to long buses. These solos now can't handle the capacity they get. I've seen loads of trips now be a full solo. This needs looked into to see what can be done

Have you sent in an official complaint? It's probably the only way they start to pay attention, given it's been something that's constantly been strongly rumoured (plans have been put into place at least once I believe) but then gets dropped for something else happening instead.
mb134
01 Feb 2024, 5:00 pm #238

(01 Feb 2024, 3:44 pm)Aaron21 I hope that Ashington come to there senses and upgrade the 57/57A to long buses. These solos now can't handle the capacity they get. I've seen loads of trips now be a full solo. This needs looked into to see what can be done

Have you sent in an official complaint? It's probably the only way they start to pay attention, given it's been something that's constantly been strongly rumoured (plans have been put into place at least once I believe) but then gets dropped for something else happening instead.

Storx



4,595
01 Feb 2024, 6:20 pm #239
(01 Feb 2024, 5:00 pm)mb134 Have you sent in an official complaint? It's probably the only way they start to pay attention, given it's been something that's constantly been strongly rumoured (plans have been put into place at least once I believe) but then gets dropped for something else happening instead.

I always wonder if it was the reason why the Enviro 200's were sent up here from Manchester. Rather large co-incidence that the PVR for the 57/57A is 5 and there's 2 Solo's limping on down at Redcar and Darlington, excluding the 3 at Whitby, and 7 of them were due. Darlington being the obvious choice for them since it's the only depot which has Euro 6 buses which could be sent out.

Obviously now it's all gone out the window as they're in worse shape than the Solo's.
Edited 01 Feb 2024, 6:21 pm by Storx.
Storx
01 Feb 2024, 6:20 pm #239

(01 Feb 2024, 5:00 pm)mb134 Have you sent in an official complaint? It's probably the only way they start to pay attention, given it's been something that's constantly been strongly rumoured (plans have been put into place at least once I believe) but then gets dropped for something else happening instead.

I always wonder if it was the reason why the Enviro 200's were sent up here from Manchester. Rather large co-incidence that the PVR for the 57/57A is 5 and there's 2 Solo's limping on down at Redcar and Darlington, excluding the 3 at Whitby, and 7 of them were due. Darlington being the obvious choice for them since it's the only depot which has Euro 6 buses which could be sent out.

Obviously now it's all gone out the window as they're in worse shape than the Solo's.

Aaron21



785
01 Feb 2024, 6:44 pm #240
(01 Feb 2024, 5:00 pm)mb134 Have you sent in an official complaint? It's probably the only way they start to pay attention, given it's been something that's constantly been strongly rumoured (plans have been put into place at least once I believe) but then gets dropped for something else happening instead.

I sent a complaint into them about the 306 diversion. Not a single response was given. Sending a complaint about an allocation won't gey anywhere
Aaron21
01 Feb 2024, 6:44 pm #240

(01 Feb 2024, 5:00 pm)mb134 Have you sent in an official complaint? It's probably the only way they start to pay attention, given it's been something that's constantly been strongly rumoured (plans have been put into place at least once I believe) but then gets dropped for something else happening instead.

I sent a complaint into them about the 306 diversion. Not a single response was given. Sending a complaint about an allocation won't gey anywhere

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