There's always buses going up in smoke with GoNorthEast, I can think of at least 4 in the past 5 years.

Genuinely can't think of any with any other operator in the North East but I might be just forgetting something, last bus I can think of in recent'ish years is 7510 up in Northumberland which was 2013 I think and the few Temsa's around the same time. Ironic given who was in charge at the time.

(30 May 2024, 11:34 am)nova347 wrote I was following a streetlite the other day, it was smoking out the back, managed to pull in front of it and tell the driver and he stopped it and kicked everyone off, probably due to the amount of warning lights that are on all the time, you don't know whether there is a serious problem, obviously, there shouldn't be warning lights on the dash at all but this is GNE, so there are but once an actual problem that could cause a 'thermal incident' the drives don't know.

Serious risk to life aswell, thats not really gonna give people confidence to use their buses

(30 May 2024, 11:40 am)Storx wrote There's always buses going up in smoke with GoNorthEast, I can think of at least 4 in the past 5 years.

Genuinely can't think of any with any other operator in the North East but I might be just forgetting something, last bus I can think of in recent'ish years is 7510 up in Northumberland which was 2013 I think and the few Temsa's around the same time. Ironic given who was in charge at the time.

From memory, Arriva have had 2 Scanias (4663, 4644?), B7TL 7412, E400 7555, and B9 7405 in the last 10 years or so. As you say, just before that was 7510, the Temsas, and B10 4503.

(30 May 2024, 11:40 am)Storx wrote There's always buses going up in smoke with GoNorthEast, I can think of at least 4 in the past 5 years.

Genuinely can't think of any with any other operator in the North East but I might be just forgetting something, last bus I can think of in recent'ish years is 7510 up in Northumberland which was 2013 I think and the few Temsa's around the same time. Ironic given who was in charge at the time.

19439 with Stagecoach back in 2020 on the A1, and more recently 19384 also Stagecoach, but yeah GNE I can list a few
5319 (Crusader 27 at Jarrow) cant remember the year, might have the fleet number wrong
5338?
8303 Chester Le Street 2017
6145
6146

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(30 May 2024, 1:30 pm)mb134 wrote From memory, Arriva have had 2 Scanias (4663, 4644?), B7TL 7412, E400 7555, and B9 7405 in the last 10 years or so. As you say, just before that was 7510, the Temsas, and B10 4503.

Didnt 4513 also go up in smoke, or had a minor fire but damaged uneconomical to repair

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5444 sporting 3 different shades of purple, i found it rather funny tbh, mind you after the day i had, i had to pick something to chuckle at

(30 May 2024, 1:34 pm)V514DFT wrote 19439 with Stagecoach back in 2020 on the A1, and more recently 19384 also Stagecoach, but yeah GNE I can list a few
5319 (Crusader 27 at Jarrow) cant remember the year, might have the fleet number wrong
5338?
8303 Chester Le Street 2017
6145
6146

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Didnt 4513 also go up in smoke, or had a minor fire but damaged uneconomical to repair

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5444 sporting 3 different shades of purple, i found it rather funny tbh, mind you after the day i had, i had to pick something to chuckle at

Yeah, there's the Versa at Silksworth, the Enviro 200 MMC at Whickham and I want to say there's been another Omnidekka or similar that went around the Sacriston area aswell. I have a feeling there was an Omnicity in the same area aswell. 

(30 May 2024, 1:30 pm)mb134 wrote From memory, Arriva have had 2 Scanias (4663, 4644?), B7TL 7412, E400 7555, and B9 7405 in the last 10 years or so. As you say, just before that was 7510, the Temsas, and B10 4503.

Aye forgot about the Scanias and 7555. Now thinking about it wasn't their a Solo at Whitby that's recently went.

(30 May 2024, 4:06 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, there's the Versa at Silksworth, the Enviro 200 MMC at Whickham and I want to say there's been another Omnidekka or similar that went around the Sacriston area aswell. I have a feeling there was an Omnicity in the same area aswell. 


Aye forgot about the Scanias and 7555. Now thinking about it wasn't their a Solo at Whitby that's recently went.

Ahhh yes 2828

(30 May 2024, 1:34 pm)V514DFT wrote 19439 with Stagecoach back in 2020 on the A1, and more recently 19384 also Stagecoach, but yeah GNE I can list a few
5319 (Crusader 27 at Jarrow) cant remember the year, might have the fleet number wrong
5338?
8303 Chester Le Street 2017
6145
6146

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Didnt 4513 also go up in smoke, or had a minor fire but damaged uneconomical to repair

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5444 sporting 3 different shades of purple, i found it rather funny tbh, mind you after the day i had, i had to pick something to chuckle at

Was 19439 the one that ran over a mattress in Newcastle?

(30 May 2024, 4:06 pm)Storx wrote Yeah, there's the Versa at Silksworth, the Enviro 200 MMC at Whickham and I want to say there's been another Omnidekka or similar that went around the Sacriston area aswell. I have a feeling there was an Omnicity in the same area aswell. 


Aye forgot about the Scanias and 7555. Now thinking about it wasn't their a Solo at Whitby that's recently went.

There was an omnicity went up in flames a few years back at Pontop, between Consett and Annfield Plain.

(30 May 2024, 7:41 pm)Tiger5105 wrote There was an omnicity went up in flames a few years back at Pontop, between Consett and Annfield Plain.

Effectively one a year:

Dec 2015 - Trident 3863
Aug 2017 - Versa 8303
Nov 2017 - Omnicity 5249
May 2021 - Citaro 5338
July 2021 - Omnidekka 6145
Dec 2022 - E200MMC 5489
Jan 2023 - Versa 8329
Apr 2024 - OmniDekka 6146


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(30 May 2024, 5:11 pm)F114TML wrote Was 19439 the one that ran over a mattress in Newcastle?

No idea, cant remember

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(30 May 2024, 8:21 pm)Dan wrote Effectively one a year:

Dec 2015 - Trident 3863
Aug 2017 - Versa 8303
Nov 2017 - Omnicity 5249
May 2021 - Citaro 5338
July 2021 - Omnidekka 6145
Dec 2022 - E200MMC 5489
Jan 2023 - Versa 8329
Apr 2024 - OmniDekka 6146


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Can you remember what year the Crusader 27 went up in smoke at Jarrow, and what fleet number it was?

(30 May 2024, 8:21 pm)Dan wrote Effectively one a year:

Dec 2015 - Trident 3863
Aug 2017 - Versa 8303
Nov 2017 - Omnicity 5249
May 2021 - Citaro 5338
July 2021 - Omnidekka 6145
Dec 2022 - E200MMC 5489
Jan 2023 - Versa 8329
Apr 2024 - OmniDekka 6146


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Sure there was at least one Cadet/Merit too.

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(30 May 2024, 8:33 pm)V514DFT wrote No idea, cant remember

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Can you remember what year the Crusader 27 went up in smoke at Jarrow, and what fleet number it was?

5319 in April 18

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...o-14503161

(30 May 2024, 8:21 pm)Dan wrote Effectively one a year:

Dec 2015 - Trident 3863
Aug 2017 - Versa 8303
Nov 2017 - Omnicity 5249
May 2021 - Citaro 5338
July 2021 - Omnidekka 6145
Dec 2022 - E200MMC 5489
Jan 2023 - Versa 8329
Apr 2024 - OmniDekka 6146


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Deffo wasn’t 8329 that’s still alive berries 8330 was the versa at silksworth

5233 tynedale express scania at ovington, on an x84, another citaro on blaydon bank - the one that was off for ages and had a new engine not long beforehand. 5275 iirc.  Also 5298 had a near miss not long after returning to service after refurb.

(30 May 2024, 8:37 pm)Andreos1 wrote Sure there was at least one Cadet/Merit too.

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5319 in April 18

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...o-14503161

Cheers, was 90% certain it was 5319

It was either 19151 or 19152 that had the fire after running over the matteress in Cowgate and continued to Killingworth when the matteress got hot enough to set on fire.

Go North East lost 3 Omnidekkas to fires. Sure one went up in Feb 2018.

(30 May 2024, 11:39 pm)Rapidsnap wrote It was either 19151 or 19152 that had the fire after running over the matteress in Cowgate and continued to Killingworth when the matteress got hot enough to set on fire.

Go North East lost 3 Omnidekkas to fires. Sure one went up in Feb 2018.

I'm sure 19151 had the fire cos that was the one that was rebodied. 19380 was also rebodied but that one was deroofed in Wallsend. GNE 6130 was the Omnidekka in 2018.

What are these fires you talk about? I'm sure you're supposed to say "thermal event" these days?

(30 May 2024, 10:37 pm)Acky81 wrote Deffo wasn’t 8329 that’s still alive berries 8330 was the versa at silksworth

8239 is gone aswell, unsure what happened with it though. It was 8330 at Silksworth though.

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(30 May 2024, 7:41 pm)Tiger5105 wrote There was an omnicity went up in flames a few years back at Pontop, between Consett and Annfield Plain.

Thanks, probably the one I was thinking about then, knew there was something up that way.

(30 May 2024, 11:40 am)Storx wrote There's always buses going up in smoke with GoNorthEast, I can think of at least 4 in the past 5 years.

Genuinely can't think of any with any other operator in the North East but I might be just forgetting something, last bus I can think of in recent'ish years is 7510 up in Northumberland which was 2013 I think and the few Temsa's around the same time. Ironic given who was in charge at the time.

So, by the discussions after this post are we concluding that bus fires have happened to all of the big three then?

6108 now off the road... seems to be a brake issue as it failed to stop at the roundabout at Battlehill Drive ... driver nearly shit himself pulled over as soon as and said I'm not driving this any further hoyed us all onto the next bus and told the other driver imagine if I was on the Coast Road!

(31 May 2024, 7:13 am)Storx wrote 8239 is gone aswell, unsure what happened with it though. It was 8330 at Silksworth though.

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Thanks, probably the one I was thinking about then, knew there was something up that way.

8329 is in a cannibalised state in Sunderland depot.

(30 May 2024, 11:55 pm)N391OTY wrote I'm sure 19151 had the fire cos that was the one that was rebodied.

Yep, was 19151.  My records show it was back end of March 2011 when the incident happened, leading to over a year out of service, eventually returning in August 2012 after rebodying by ADL, Falkirk.

Photos here (not mine):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/falcon40group/5942399017/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswichbus...038529243/

(31 May 2024, 12:47 pm)DaveFromUpNorth wrote 6108 now off the road... seems to be a brake issue as it failed to stop at the roundabout at Battlehill Drive ... driver nearly shit himself pulled over as soon as and said I'm not driving this any further  hoyed us all onto the next bus and told the other driver imagine if I was on the Coast Road!

Bit of a twitchy bum moment?, on a serious note though, thats not okay, the brakes are something you really want to work, baffling how it was missed, surely theres some kind of protocol to recognise when brakes are starting to fail?, and you're right, what if that had of been on a peak X39,certainly could of ended in fatalities,thats genuinely scary, wonder if it'll be classed as a "near miss"

(31 May 2024, 5:55 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Yep, was 19151.  My records show it was back end of March 2011 when the incident happened, leading to over a year out of service, eventually returning in August 2012 after rebodying by ADL, Falkirk.

Photos here (not mine):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/falcon40group/5942399017/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswichbus...038529243/

It caught fire again up in Scotland quite recently and has since been scrapped.

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On the subject of Stagecoach vehicle fires: 35187 sustained fire damage when it was at Slatyford. Also didnt something happen with 11289 and that's how it ended up being repainted?

(31 May 2024, 6:27 pm)V514DFT wrote Bit of a twitchy bum moment?, on a serious note though, thats not okay, the brakes are something you really want to work, baffling how it was missed, surely theres some kind of protocol to recognise when brakes are starting to fail?, and you're right, what if that had of been on a peak X39,certainly could of ended in fatalities,thats genuinely scary, wonder if it'll be classed as a "near miss"

Just thankful it went round Hadrian Park first - imagine if it didn't go round Hadrian Park  could of been on the coast road 

The driver did ask the other driver if he had experience it before they muttered a common trigger on them but not as he is driving (electrical issue I think was said)

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(31 May 2024, 6:27 pm)V514DFT wrote Bit of a twitchy bum moment?, on a serious note though, thats not okay, the brakes are something you really want to work, baffling how it was missed, surely theres some kind of protocol to recognise when brakes are starting to fail?, and you're right, what if that had of been on a peak X39,certainly could of ended in fatalities,thats genuinely scary, wonder if it'll be classed as a "near miss"

It had done 7 trips on 307 and been on the road since 6am so it seems the fault occurred during the day as it would of been picked up before during the day

DIdnt 5337 get set of fire?

(31 May 2024, 5:55 pm)stagecoachbusdepot wrote Yep, was 19151.  My records show it was back end of March 2011 when the incident happened, leading to over a year out of service, eventually returning in August 2012 after rebodying by ADL, Falkirk.

Photos here (not mine):
https://www.flickr.com/photos/falcon40group/5942399017/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ipswichbus...038529243/

19151 wasn't a rebody. It got repaired down at Plaxtons Workshop in Anston where they just grafted on a new rear end, the rest of the vehicle was original. Also if a vehicle is rebodied, they also receieve a new body number. For example at Stagecoach Manchester similar 19425 (MX58FUH) was destroyed by fire in 2009 where body number 8421/36 ended up being scrapped and replaced by body 9410/1.2

(30 May 2024, 8:37 pm)Andreos1 wrote
Sure there was at least one Cadet/Merit too.

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5319 in April 18

https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/nor...o-14503161

Yes it was 8249 at Biddick in Washington. I saw this as I was on my way to the Galleries at the time and the bus I was on for diverted round the Biddick ring road. The damage was contained to the rear of the bus but it was enough to see it scrapped shortly afterwards.

Other GNE bus fires I remember are: -

4808 - Complete burn out after engine fault I think? 
4895 - this one had two fires and was scrapped after the second
4910 - which was repaired and returned to service afterwards

Not sure what happened here yesterday but one of Consett's Enviro 400s ended up off road in a field near Medomsley yesterday

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What’s with the retro red wheel on 6995?

https://flic.kr/p/2pVoh9P