(28 Mar 2014, 9:44 pm)Kuyoyo wrote Do you not understand - we won't see a heavyweight decker again. We are now in the times that vehicles will be getting lighter and lighter, simply due to the emission levels required.
(28 Mar 2014, 10:06 pm)robisdave15 wrote Think them that want the Temsa Avenues should be welcome to them and the "experience" I guess they are a good vehicle for certain operations, Redcars 63's for example but nor anything where a degree of comfort is required. There was talk of some of them being reconfigured/re-seated but now I guess they are being re-allocated instead?
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(28 Mar 2014, 10:17 pm)robisdave15 wrote True! When you look at them it was difficult to see how. Still with only a handful staying here the chance of riding them is minimised! Spend some money on the Ommnicities I say and please don't move them away.
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(28 Mar 2014, 10:25 pm)tyresmoke wrote The Omnicities are due for a well needed refurbishment this summer, I'm not sure when but they'll probably be after some of the new stock arrives. No doubt it'll give some Prestiges an extended stay to cover them. Once refurbished I think they'll be allocated to different depots than at present, though...
I think we'll see more Temsas stay at Redcar than expected as a result, with only a handful moving out. From what I've been told, as they're such a non standard batch, a lot of parts are not available quickly and therefore have to be specially ordered. Hence when they are VOR, it can be for long periods even for what you would think would be simple fixes. A new piece of glass can take 2-3 weeks to arrive for example. Therefore the idea was to spread them between the depots to help minimise the effect on one depot (ie Redcar) by spreading the issue between 2 or 3 depots instead.
(28 Mar 2014, 10:25 pm)tyresmoke wrote The Omnicities are due for a well needed refurbishment this summer, I'm not sure when but they'll probably be after some of the new stock arrives. No doubt it'll give some Prestiges an extended stay to cover them. Once refurbished I think they'll be allocated to different depots than at present, though...
I think we'll see more Temsas stay at Redcar than expected as a result, with only a handful moving out. From what I've been told, as they're such a non standard batch, a lot of parts are not available quickly and therefore have to be specially ordered. Hence when they are VOR, it can be for long periods even for what you would think would be simple fixes. A new piece of glass can take 2-3 weeks to arrive for example. Therefore the idea was to spread them between the depots to help minimise the effect on one depot (ie Redcar) by spreading the issue between 2 or 3 depots instead.
(29 Mar 2014, 9:58 am)upt50k wrote X26 and X27 do at times need a bigger bus but going in and out of Tesco can be pain and as this will never be missed out the size of vehicle must be given some thought. On the subject of Temsas they could be trialled on Darlo X1 where their larger wheels would be an advantage when travelling over rough surfaces on some of the faster none stop sections of the route.This is the case when at odd times the Scanias have appeared but I believe they struggle with the turning circle at Stanley
(29 Mar 2014, 10:09 am)Kuyoyo wrote I certainly wouldn't want Temsas on any long distance run with their seats (which is a pity when Darlington is one of the rumoured 2 depots due to received them, and the rumoured route for them is 75/76).
(29 Mar 2014, 10:18 am)JoshP wrote I was always led to believe that the 75/76 were to be upgraded to Pulsars? Is this now not the case anymore?
(29 Mar 2014, 10:23 am)Kuyoyo wrote That plan changed when the order for Darlington was diverted to Durham,. The original plan was for 1424-8 to be used to upgrade the 75/75 when replaced by newer vehicles on the 1/5, however since that order is now Durham bound the 75/76 will be getting whatever can be sourced for it.
(29 Mar 2014, 10:26 am)JoshP wrote Thanks for clearing that up guys! I'm still waiting for the day that deckers are back in Darlington, some routes like the 1/X1 and 7 really need them sometimes
(29 Mar 2014, 11:37 am)peter wrote Unfortunately for you, I remember somebody telling me that the depot manager at Darlington did not want double deckers in his depot again, probably after this happened:
http://www.darlingtonandstocktontimes.co...collision/
As anyone who has been to Darlington will know, almost all buses must pass under the part of the Cornmill Shopping Centre that 7519 got wedged under, therefore it will have been quite risky for the depot manager at Darlington to continue letting double-deckers go under it if there was any chance of that happening again. However, it was only until after this happened, that it was decided the double-deckers were not suited for Darlington:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/98...wn_centre/
As a result, all of the Enviro 400's for the 1/1B and all of the Olympians for the X66 were shifted to Ashington (and I believe some may have gone to Blyth) with the Enviro's being replaced by Pulsars and the Olympians by the DAFs which were themselves transferred to Ashington when this happened:
http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/89...wn_centre/
After all that has happened previously, it is likely that the chance of Darlington ever getting double-deckers (or coaches) in the future is 0.
(29 Mar 2014, 12:04 pm)Jimmi wrote Darlington also lost double deckers because Service X66 was upped to run every 20 mins and the X1 was launched it meant there was 4 Arriva buses an hour between Darlington and Crook.
These changes meant there wasn't really any need for double deckers anymore.
The DAF coaches were booted off the X66 because there was complaints from the elderly and disabled saying they could not use the service.
(29 Mar 2014, 10:23 pm)robisdave wrote Any reason why we are wasting mileage and money by running service 5 through to Easington ( from Middlesbrough) on an evening when there is a perfectly acceptable and reliable local service, provided by Redcar and Cleveland Council, paid for by it's residents? Makes sense to terminate the 5 trips at Guisbborough and let those that want to travel through use the service so provided.
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